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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:23 pm

Both the Christian heaven and hell sound pretty shitty. I wanna become a computer.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:23 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:I know it's the result of physical processes of the brain; however, could there be a way to preserve the brain, and give it access to additional memory?

There's no reason that couldn't be done, no, but that's very different that uploading one's mind. More desirable, as well.

Awesome. Hope they can do that shit before I die, because I would sign right up.
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Postby Christiaanistan » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:24 pm

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Christiaanistan wrote:The House of Sindri is in the underworld, though, isn't it? Somewhere in your dark mountains around the roots of Yggdrasil. Also, my understanding of your underworld has always been that it's not necessarily an evil place full of suffering and horror but more of a sort of creepy, mysterious, dangerous and witchy sort of region that has specific locations and items that are sacred in their own right.

I might be misinterpreting what I've read on it, though. I just always understood the Norse concept of the underworld to a unique one.


Reminds me a bit of Homer's Hades and Sheol.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:26 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Scomagia wrote:There's no reason that couldn't be done, no, but that's very different that uploading one's mind. More desirable, as well.

Awesome. Hope they can do that shit before I die, because I would sign right up.

Yep, it is a fairly dope idea. I wasn't trying to be aggressive, by the way, but the whole "mind uploading" deal irritates me to no end. It's basically another version of the same religious hokum that promises immortality, only it bastardizes science to make it's promises.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:27 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:Awesome. Hope they can do that shit before I die, because I would sign right up.

Yep, it is a fairly dope idea. I wasn't trying to be aggressive, by the way, but the whole "mind uploading" deal irritates me to no end. It's basically another version of the same religious hokum that promises immortality, only it bastardizes science to make it's promises.

Alright.
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:28 pm

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That makes like no sense. Why keep sending machines back to try and kill John and Sarah Connor if it wants to destroy itself, given the fact that the terminators in T1 and T2 were sent back at the same time, right before the resistance blows the place up.

The machines are meant to illicit responses, and develop the paths of people it deems important. As noted Skynet has no central core it would require a much more massive effort to completely destroy it. Possibly why it keeps delaying judgment day to ensure more of humanity survives the event.


But it has a core. I don't buy the T3 explanation., its in every computer and on the internt is crap, because a global nuclear war is going tot take out most of the world's computer networks, meaning that none of the pieces of itself skynet scatters could communicate. But enough thread jacking, this is why I hate James Cameron but love his work. The guy's a total retard, but still manages to make amazing movies.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:36 pm

If they upload you to a computer, you'd still remember EVERYTHING, right?
Like, it'd be the you you, but just in a computer?
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Postby Kratu » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:38 pm

Depends on if there is an afterlife and if there is what it is like. Personally I would prefer an afterlife where I still have a collection of my memories from life and could form new memories from those memories. But thats highly unlikely.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:39 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:If they upload you to a computer, you'd still remember EVERYTHING, right?
Like, it'd be the you you, but just in a computer?

The plausible way it would work is just to preserve your brain, and give you auxiliary memory packages.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:48 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:If they upload you to a computer, you'd still remember EVERYTHING, right?
Like, it'd be the you you, but just in a computer?

No. It would be a copy of you. Digital cloning, if you will.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:15 pm

Most uses of the word dystopia imply a society that could be created, not a mythical place inhabited by gods and what not.

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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:19 pm

As long as I can play Command & Conquer mods in peace and be with my family, I'm fine with heaven. For me, there would be no dystopia.
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Postby Bojikami » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:33 pm

I agree with United Marxist Nations. Immortality>Afterlife.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:34 pm

Bojikami wrote:I agree with United Marxist Nations. Immortality>Afterlife.

Meh, not impressed.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:38 pm

Bojikami wrote:I agree with United Marxist Nations. Immortality>Afterlife.

You don't have sufficient experience with the former to determine whether it is good or not.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:41 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Bojikami wrote:I agree with United Marxist Nations. Immortality>Afterlife.

You don't have sufficient experience with the former to determine whether it is good or not.

But it sounds way cooler than afterlife. Especially since, with what we're talking about, you could shut the former off.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:42 pm

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Ulrenon wrote:I heard someone say after a good deal of time in hell you get to be a demon.

That sounds like the shit.

Whoever said that is wrong. People who end up in Hell stay there for the rest of eternity.

You would know as you've been there for 0 years, 0 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:42 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Kranstentistan wrote:Whoever said that is wrong. People who end up in Hell stay there for the rest of eternity.

You would know as you've been there for 0 years, 0 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds.

Actually they have, why do you think his internet router is a potato?
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:43 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You don't have sufficient experience with the former to determine whether it is good or not.

But it sounds way cooler than afterlife. Especially since, with what we're talking about, you could shut the former off.

That's a good point. I thought that you were opposed to suicide, though.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:44 pm

Benuty wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:You would know as you've been there for 0 years, 0 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds.

Actually they have, why do you think his internet router is a potato?

But if he went there as you claimed he claimed you stay there for eternity meaning... HELL HAS WIFI!
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Scomagia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:But it sounds way cooler than afterlife. Especially since, with what we're talking about, you could shut the former off.

That's a good point. I thought that you were opposed to suicide, though.

Why would you think that? I mean sure, in most situations, but in most situations, the person doesn't have to face eternity as the alternative. I mean, if I were to be preserved like we're talking about, and, say, a nuclear war broke out and killed everyone, but I am somehow safe (say I'm in some underground bunker, who cares); I don't think I'd be able to scrounge enough material to keep myself occupied until either the sun destroys me, I find a way to leave, or aliens or some shit show up.
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Postby The United Zones of the West » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:50 pm

Othelos wrote:I was taught that the majority if the time in heaven would be spent worshiping God. Sounds kind of boring, honestly.

Worshipping God can be done a number of ways. Honestly, you can worship God simply by doing something for Him. I believe we will be able to make advancements in technology and science in heaven (if you end up there; if you do not declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will go to the other place). I think heaven for me will be an extremely fun place, especially since God rejoices in good work done for him.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:51 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Benuty wrote:Actually they have, why do you think his internet router is a potato?

But if he went there as you claimed he claimed you stay there for eternity meaning... HELL HAS WIFI!

Unfortunately no. Hell has dial-up.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:52 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:But if he went there as you claimed he claimed you stay there for eternity meaning... HELL HAS WIFI!

Unfortunately no. Hell has dial-up.

Aww... I least they have good party food. Heaven sounds like it has all the boring fancy salads while hell has the steaks and seafood.
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:54 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Unfortunately no. Hell has dial-up.

Aww... I least they have good party food. Heaven sounds like it has all the boring fancy salads while hell has the steaks and seafood.


Not to mention black jack and hookers. Lots and lots of hookers.
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