Why did you decide Islam was most appropriate for you?
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by Eranian Commonwealth » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:20 am
by Cyrisnia » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:22 am
Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
by Eranian Commonwealth » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:26 am
Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
by Distruzio » Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:50 pm
Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
by Cill Airne » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:08 am
Insaeldor wrote:Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
Well it's good to hear you've found a faith that fits you! If you don't mind me probing but what denomination would you consider yourself to be (if any at all)?
Eranian Commonwealth wrote:Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
Ignore my last, anyway what made you consider Islam to be the truth?
:) Thank you!Distruzio wrote:Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
Course you knew you'd get one from me.
by Big Jim P » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:59 am
Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
by Othelos » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:34 pm
Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses.
by Cill Airne » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:53 am
Othelos wrote:Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses.
How so, if you don't mind me asking?
by The Alma Mater » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:56 am
Cill Airne wrote:Othelos wrote:How so, if you don't mind me asking?
To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
by Murkwood » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:38 am
Big Jim P wrote:Cill Airne wrote:لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
la 'ilaha 'illa-llah, muhammadun rasulu-llah
There is no god but God, and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of God.
I am a Muslim. After years of a religious journey I have settled into Islam for 4 months now. I recently began to tell people that I have converted, and, naturally, have had mixed responses. Now, I was born in a fairly non-religious family, though we did identify as Christians. After my paternal grandmother died, my father was shaken up and we began to attend church weekly. In the youth Bible Study I felt embarrassed because the other kids my age knew all about Christianity (they were raised going to church) and had so many verses memorised. That made me determined to learn everything I physically could about Christianity. But the more I studied, the more I felt... Like I was being lied to, by my pastors and by the Christian majority. I finally gave up going to church and began to study religion. I first looked at Judaism, then Islam, followed by various pagan practices until finally I began to practice Buddhism. But I couldn't shake the feeling that I was meant to be worshipping God. So I began to research Christianity (I had dismissed other branches of Christianity, assuming they'd all be liars). And, though I temporarily found Anglicanism appealing, I gave up hope. Then, one day, I had an urge to reread the Qur'an. No sooner than I had finished Surat Al-Fatiha (the first Surah of the Qur'an) I decided Islam was my home after all. So, no. I am not the religion I am today because it was imposed upon me. I am here in Islam because I researched and found it was the religion that made sense to me. I believe Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'Ala guided me to Islam, after years of a religious search.
I would say that this is the best way to find ones religion. I myself studied a wide variety of religion until I found Satanism. The only one that fit me.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Cetatsenia » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:32 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Cill Airne wrote:To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
Isn't the last part something your religion actually requires you to do ? Genuine question - I know that extremists like ISIL claim that it is the duty of all muslims to settle in the caliphate, while most moslims elsewhere say "whatever" and stay put. But who is right ?
by Arkinesia » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:09 am
Sebastianbourg wrote:Mons Garle wrote:
Have you read about Pascal's Wager?
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I hadn't heard of him but now I have and will apply this maxim to my life!
Disappointment Panda wrote:Don't hope for a life without problems. There's no such thing. Instead, hope for a life full of good problems.
by Distruzio » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:49 am
Cill Airne wrote:Othelos wrote:How so, if you don't mind me asking?
To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
by Cill Airne » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:53 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Cill Airne wrote:To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
Isn't the last part something your religion actually requires you to do ? Genuine question - I know that extremists like ISIL claim that it is the duty of all muslims to settle in the caliphate, while most moslims elsewhere say "whatever" and stay put. But who is right ?
Distruzio wrote:Cill Airne wrote:To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
Racism is... kinda funny sometimes.
by Othelos » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:46 am
Cill Airne wrote:Othelos wrote:How so, if you don't mind me asking?
To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
by Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:12 am
by Eranian Commonwealth » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:54 am
Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism wrote:I'm an agnostic who likes to think that maybe there is some kind of god somewhere not attached to any religion in particular. I'm currently exploring Finnish and Old Norse mythologies to see if they'd fit me and if they don't I'm going to research other religions as well to explore my own spirituality.
by Eranian Commonwealth » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:59 am
Cetatsenia wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Isn't the last part something your religion actually requires you to do ? Genuine question - I know that extremists like ISIL claim that it is the duty of all muslims to settle in the caliphate, while most moslims elsewhere say "whatever" and stay put. But who is right ?
I'm pretty sure all that Muslims are supposed to do is make the pilgrimage to Mecca at some point in their life. And I wouldn't take ISIL's ideas on what Muslims are supposed to do at face value.
by Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:48 pm
Eranian Commonwealth wrote:Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism wrote:I'm an agnostic who likes to think that maybe there is some kind of god somewhere not attached to any religion in particular. I'm currently exploring Finnish and Old Norse mythologies to see if they'd fit me and if they don't I'm going to research other religions as well to explore my own spirituality.
Can I recommend you look at Zoroastrianism? Not to proselytize, but I think that even if you don't convert you will find it interesting (:
by Immoren » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:59 pm
Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism wrote:I'm an agnostic who likes to think that maybe there is some kind of god somewhere not attached to any religion in particular. I'm currently exploring Finnish and Old Norse mythologies to see if they'd fit me and if they don't I'm going to research other religions as well to explore my own spirituality.
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Benuty » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:34 pm
Immoren wrote:Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism wrote:I'm an agnostic who likes to think that maybe there is some kind of god somewhere not attached to any religion in particular. I'm currently exploring Finnish and Old Norse mythologies to see if they'd fit me and if they don't I'm going to research other religions as well to explore my own spirituality.
"Problem" with Finnish paganism is that currently its practically a revivalist neopaganism based on few oral stories, and writings of opinionated Christians writing about silly fennic pagans. Basically a mix of wishful interpretation and coloured outsider accounts.
Put obviously its not necessarily a problem.
by Cill Airne » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:12 am
Othelos wrote:Cill Airne wrote:To which part? How I recently began to tell people, or the mixed responses? I've been telling people, usually, by saying "I'm a Muslim."
I've had mixed responses as some people say "okay." while others say… "What, are you a terrorist now? You going to blow up the building? Are you going to start beheading Christians? You don't look Muslim, how can you be one? Well, why don't you go move to Saudi Arabia then?"
The mixed reactions...it seems like people are letting their ignorance on the topic show (if they're serious).
by Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:05 am
Immoren wrote:Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism wrote:I'm an agnostic who likes to think that maybe there is some kind of god somewhere not attached to any religion in particular. I'm currently exploring Finnish and Old Norse mythologies to see if they'd fit me and if they don't I'm going to research other religions as well to explore my own spirituality.
"Problem" with Finnish paganism is that currently its practically a revivalist neopaganism based on few oral stories, and writings of opinionated Christians writing about silly fennic pagans. Basically a mix of wishful interpretation and coloured outsider accounts.
Put obviously its not necessarily a problem.
by Immoren » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:18 am
Right-Wing Anarchy of Egoism wrote:Immoren wrote:
"Problem" with Finnish paganism is that currently its practically a revivalist neopaganism based on few oral stories, and writings of opinionated Christians writing about silly fennic pagans. Basically a mix of wishful interpretation and coloured outsider accounts.
Put obviously its not necessarily a problem.
Which one fits Karhun kansa's version of Finnish mythology?
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Cetatsenia » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:24 am
Eranian Commonwealth wrote:Cetatsenia wrote:
I'm pretty sure all that Muslims are supposed to do is make the pilgrimage to Mecca at some point in their life. And I wouldn't take ISIL's ideas on what Muslims are supposed to do at face value.
'The Caliphate' and al-Hajj are different things. The Caliphate is the 'Vatican City' of Islam (except it's usually an empire). The Caliph (Khalifa, Emperor-ish) is the 'Pope' of (Sunni) Islam. al-Hajj (the pilgrimage) is the pilgrimage to Mecca (al-Makkah), the holy city of Islam with the Ka'aba and all that stuff. Ideally the Caliphate will also control Mecca (as did Muhammad, the Umayyads, Abbassids and Ottomans), however it is not mandatory for all Muslims to travel to the Caliphate. All Muslims do however have to make the journey to Mecca at least once in their lives.
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