Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS)

[Limborg]

The Caliphate grows fast... Boko Haram joins in

Two caliphates, the plot thickens.

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Two caliphates, the plot thickens.

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

I declared my own one just this morning.

[Gauthier]

The Caliphate grows fast... Boko Haram joins in

If Boko Haram is trying to join the ISIS bandwagon, they're even bigger moron than I've figured. Unless of course ISIS realizes that treating everyone who helps them as toilet paper is a bad long term strategy.

[Organized States]

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

"But! But! It's what all the other cool, Jihadis are doing these days!"



I got to admit, these guys have some balls to say this after Islam's top authority condemned them the other day.

[Washington Resistance Army]

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

"But! But! It's what all the other cool, Jihadis are doing these days!"



I got to admit, these guys have some balls to say this after Islam's top authority condemned them the other day.

They don't actually care about the religion, they just want more power and I'm guessing they think this is the way to do it.

[Organized States]

"But! But! It's what all the other cool, Jihadis are doing these days!"



I got to admit, these guys have some balls to say this after Islam's top authority condemned them the other day.

They don't actually care about the religion, they just want more power and I'm guessing they think this is the way to do it.

Well, that seems to always go well...

*Flips to the Page about the Crusades

[Limborg]

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

I guess i'm too old to go with the trends, but i'll make sure that i have my own caliphate by tonight

The Caliphate grows fast... Boko Haram joins in

If Boko Haram is trying to join the ISIS bandwagon, they're even bigger moron than I've figured. Unless of course ISIS realizes that treating everyone who helps them as toilet paper is a bad long term strategy.

I agree, not sure where they are going to.. But till now it would only concern one village. I don't think Boko Haram can pull the same shit off like ISIS did.

[Landenburg]

Two caliphates;
Twice the genocide

[Papait]

Two caliphates;
Twice the genocide

In all seriousness. Boko haram has not yet shown itself to be as extremely violent and genocidal as ISIS.

[Papait]

Well me and my buddies talked it through. Im the new caliph of brabant.

[Limborg]

Well me and my buddies talked it through. Im the new caliph of brabant.

Isn't that a bit large for you and your buddies to controll?

I just threw my father off his throne and became Caliph of my family. Sadly if i would turn to genocide against my people i would turn myself into a victim...

[Angleter]

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

You get a Caliphate! And you get a Caliphate! And you get a Caliphate! Everyone gets a Caliphate!

[Proskoya]

From what I'm getting out of it Boko Haram declared a caliphate of it's own in Nigeria. I guess it's the cool thing to do now.

You get a Caliphate! And you get a Caliphate! And you get a Caliphate! Everyone gets a Caliphate!

-Cue a shot of Jihadis looking under their seat and finding a roll of paper with "CALIPHATE" on it and then promptly dancing to a stereotypical Middle Eastern song-

Please someone make this happen. I will pay tons. I NEED Muslim Oprah to happen.

[Parti Ouvrier]

Two caliphates, the plot thickens.

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

I think the strength of this micky mouse organisation is vastly exaggerated, there is little good to come from intervening and would likely lead to disaster. ISIS as a coalition could lead to the seed of their own destruction. If we foolishly intervened we would disperse them, which would make them more dangerous and encourage them to get involved in Jordon, if Jordan gets destabilized I dred to think what Netanyahu might do with the Palestinians.

On a more positive note, perhaps in the long term we will see the end of the old stability and the erasure of the line between Syria and Iraq.

[Parti Ouvrier]

at least they suffered significant losses taking the base,
4 dead for every syrian they killed and with lacking medicine they can write of about 100 of their wounded as well.
This may be a victory for ISIS, but fortunatly its a very bitter one

Call me a pessimistic, but I would have preferred a pyrrhic victory for Syrian forces than a costly victory for ISIS.

And there we were funding unsavory forces against Assad a while back.

[Condunum]

Two caliphates;
Twice the genocide

In all seriousness. Boko haram has not yet shown itself to be as extremely violent and genocidal as ISIS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram

[Limborg]

Not sure its two, it still is pretty much unclear to me wether he joined the Caliphate of IS or that he declared his own. Anyhow, i hope Nigeria is going to put an end to these "people" as quick as possible.

I think the strength of this micky mouse organisation is vastly exaggerated, there is little good to come from intervening and would likely lead to disaster. ISIS as a coalition could lead to the seed of their own destruction. If we foolishly intervened we would disperse them, which would make them more dangerous and encourage them to get involved in Jordon, if Jordan gets destabilized I dred to think what Netanyahu might do with the Palestinians.

On a more positive note, perhaps in the long term we will see the end of the old stability and the erasure of the line between Syria and Iraq.

Meh, intervening is a good thing, but it should be done by nations that come from the region. Those terrorists Always used the west as an excuse and they used the west to gain more "followers". As long as its regional based its not that bad. Jordan won't be destabilized, Saudi's and other Gulf nations won't allow that to happen. No need to worry about that. But i agree on the fact that its most likely that the IS will destroy itself becouse of those loose Alliances that make little to no sence. At some point groups will turn against eachother and hell will come to them all.

I don't understand what you mean by that last line though, mind to make it more clear?

[Limborg]

In all seriousness. Boko haram has not yet shown itself to be as extremely violent and genocidal as ISIS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram

Still they don't reach the killstreak of ISIS.

[Parti Ouvrier]

But if they mingle too much in this theyre gonna get even more friction with the west. And given their actions in ukraine allready psuhing europe to the side of the USa. They will be rather carefull in the middle east

They should just note Ukraine is a lost cause and save whatever face they have and assist in fighting off ISIS.

But that will never happen, so I just say that it is their loss.

Your first point I agree with because its only fueling Russian nationalism, a bad thing for those of us on the left. On fighting ISIS, well, blowback is the problem here, but I'll also point out that religious fundies, many types in fact, is a reaction against the falsity of the equity of free-market neo-liberalism, the working class need their own collective forms of welfare that the religious fundies currently offer, (Hamas is another example - because they offer welfare services).

[Condunum]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram

Still they don't reach the killstreak of ISIS.

Nevertheless, they are a detestable organization.

[Parti Ouvrier]

I think the strength of this micky mouse organisation is vastly exaggerated, there is little good to come from intervening and would likely lead to disaster. ISIS as a coalition could lead to the seed of their own destruction. If we foolishly intervened we would disperse them, which would make them more dangerous and encourage them to get involved in Jordon, if Jordan gets destabilized I dred to think what Netanyahu might do with the Palestinians.

On a more positive note, perhaps in the long term we will see the end of the old stability and the erasure of the line between Syria and Iraq.

Meh, intervening is a good thing, but it should be done by nations that come from the region. Those terrorists Always used the west as an excuse and they used the west to gain more "followers". As long as its regional based its not that bad. Jordan won't be destabilized, Saudi's and other Gulf nations won't allow that to happen. No need to worry about that. But i agree on the fact that its most likely that the IS will destroy itself becouse of those loose Alliances that make little to no sence. At some point groups will turn against eachother and hell will come to them all.

I don't understand what you mean by that last line though, mind to make it more clear?

Yes, I think the borders, or the loss of them (Iraq and Syria), will be a good thing. Anyway, I don't like the idea of Saudi Arabia( as an exception, these religious fundies are make the US Christian fundamentalist Republicans seem moderate in comparison )getting involved. I don't expect Qatar would willingly cooperate with the Saud's either.

[Limborg]

Still they don't reach the killstreak of ISIS.

Nevertheless, they are a detestable organization.

Very true. I still wonder though, Since Boko Haram is essential the Al-Qaeda from Nigeria, what does Al-Qaeda have to say about that so called Calipathe that Boko Haram declared...

Meh, intervening is a good thing, but it should be done by nations that come from the region. Those terrorists Always used the west as an excuse and they used the west to gain more "followers". As long as its regional based its not that bad. Jordan won't be destabilized, Saudi's and other Gulf nations won't allow that to happen. No need to worry about that. But i agree on the fact that its most likely that the IS will destroy itself becouse of those loose Alliances that make little to no sence. At some point groups will turn against eachother and hell will come to them all.

I don't understand what you mean by that last line though, mind to make it more clear?

Yes, I think the borders, or the loss of them (Iraq and Syria), will be a good thing. Anyway, I don't like the idea of Saudi Arabia( as an exception, these religious fundies are make the US Christian fundamentalist Republicans seem moderate in comparison )getting involved. I don't expect Qatar would willingly cooperate with the Saud's either.

Ah like that, well for now sure, but in the end they are two different nations, and that won't just change. For a possible intervention it would be very helpfull if both countries agree. In that case the fact of having no borders would mak it alot more easier to whipe ISIS out.
On the other matter, I think that if you involve Iran you should also involve Saudi-Arabia. You know how groups like ISIS operate, they Always seek something or someone to blame. If two rivals work together they can hardly blame anyone anymore. Anyhow, it doesn't matter really, every country that would intervene would seek a way to use Iraq and Syria for their own agendas, and that is the worst thing of all. No country will ever itnervene just for the people, they only care about their own crap.

[Limborg]

It seems that Nigeria is going the same way like Iraq if it continues: Dutch Media reports that almost 500 Nigerian soldiers fled to Cameroon after fighting with Boko Haram

[Washington Resistance Army]

It seems that Nigeria is going the same way like Iraq if it continues: Dutch Media reports that almost 500 Nigerian soldiers fled to Cameroon after fighting with Boko Haram

Oh come the fuck on, is this really happening?