The Mod-Sanctioned Scottish Referendum Megathread

[Ainin]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

To be fair, Salmond hasn't arrested opposition leaders, tortured protesters and destroyed his country's oil wealth...yet. But when it comes to saying stupid shit, he's definitely Scotland's Chavez.

Maybe he'll have success at depleting Scotland's stock of toilet paper? Time will tell.

[Alyakia]

i sure hope that we don't end up with a government that tortures prisoners. that would really suck.

You're lucky you don't live in Venezuela, but your veiled support for Chavez's government makes me doubt that.

the joke is actually the UK has historically and presently supported and allied with governments that torture prisoners and we have done it ourselves at home and abroad and carted people off to camps in africa to get tortured on our behalf

[Estado Nacional]

To be fair, Salmond hasn't arrested opposition leaders, tortured protesters and destroyed his country's oil wealth...yet. But when it comes to saying stupid shit, he's definitely Scotland's Chavez.

Maybe he'll have success at depleting Scotland's stock of toilet paper? Time will tell.

The Yes Campaign already says Scotland is one the top twenty wealthiest countries in the world, but that'll change once they become independent.

[Estado Nacional]

You're lucky you don't live in Venezuela, but your veiled support for Chavez's government makes me doubt that.

the joke is actually the UK has historically and presently supported and allied with governments that torture prisoners and we have done it ourselves at home and abroad and carted people off to camps in africa to get tortured on our behalf

Then you should have no problems with being part of the UK.

[Alyakia]

the joke is actually the UK has historically and presently supported and allied with governments that torture prisoners and we have done it ourselves at home and abroad and carted people off to camps in africa to get tortured on our behalf

Then you should have no problems with being part of the UK.

nah i do. that's kinda the point.

i'd be interested if you had any links to authorized torture under chavez though.

[Estado Nacional]

Then you should have no problems with being part of the UK.

nah i do. that's kinda the point.

i'd be interested if you had any links to authorized torture under chavez though.

Have fun;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-0 ... ounts.html
http://humanrightsfoundation.org/news/v ... ease-00389
http://mashable.com/2014/02/24/report-v ... rotesters/

[Alyakia]

nah i do. that's kinda the point.

i'd be interested if you had any links to authorized torture under chavez though.

Have fun;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-0 ... ounts.html
http://humanrightsfoundation.org/news/v ... ease-00389
http://mashable.com/2014/02/24/report-v ... rotesters/

i said under chavez.

[Estado Nacional]

Have fun;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-0 ... ounts.html
http://humanrightsfoundation.org/news/v ... ease-00389
http://mashable.com/2014/02/24/report-v ... rotesters/

i said under chavez.

I don't think the fact that most of these cases happened under his hand-picked successor makes it any better for Chavez or the general human rights situation any better, but suit yourself.

[The Scientific States]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Though Salmond has said and done some silly things, he's nowhere near as silly and insane as Chavez.

[Na h-Alba Nuadh]

Or have a temporary license to vote that requires you to answer a short quiz based on knowledge and not gossip & slander?

first question: why are these kinds of tests a really bad idea?

Because historically they have been used to disenfranchise the people that the people setting the test didn't want voting. For example the Southern states of the USA used "literacy tests" between 1890 & the 1960s to keep "coloured" people from getting a vote.

[Imperializt Russia]

You're lucky you don't live in Venezuela, but your veiled support for Chavez's government makes me doubt that.

the joke is actually the UK has historically and presently supported and allied with governments that torture prisoners and we have done it ourselves at home and abroad and carted people off to camps in africa to get tortured on our behalf

We don't engage in, condone or corroborate in the torture of mere political dissenters. Though still inexcusable and unjustifiable, those who it is alleged (since, IIRC, they are still only allegations, I think the courts are being slow to register them), targets of British and British-sanctioned torture, rare it fortunately is, are violent and prominent operatives and commanders or backers of terrorist cells.

[Alexanda]

As the title suggests, I am interested in hearing how Scottish Independence would affect you. Of course, if the country does break free, then the decision will influence the United Kingdom massively, not to mention the E.U and U.N. How would the Independence affect you, however, if it did happen? How would the Scottish withdrawal from Great Britain affect you, and your family, personally, if at all?

Please do explain your answer fully. One wouldn't want this thread closed due to trolling, flaming or anything like that.

[Chestaan]

Go to the megathread mate

[Bulgar Rouge]

Short answer ? It won't.

Long answer ? It will not. Although there is the option of an independent Scotland producing some decent laws on land ownership that could result in me acquiring property there. That would be nice.

[Allmann]

I am not Scottish nor from any country in the British Isles, I am from Sweden.
Scottish Independence would most likely affect my plans off attending University in Scotland which is probably my number one choice of countries due to it apparently being free of charge for EU citizens.

Other than that I dont know, independent Scotland could become a beachhead for a Nordic reconquista of Britain or something.

[Risottia]

As the title suggests, I am interested in hearing how Scottish Independence would affect you. Of course, if the country does break free, then the decision will influence the United Kingdom massively, not to mention the E.U and U.N. How would the Independence affect you, however, if it did happen? How would the Scottish withdrawal from Great Britain affect you, and your family, personally, if at all?

Please do explain your answer fully. One wouldn't want this thread closed due to trolling, flaming or anything like that.

It wouldn't affect me in the slightest, as a non-British EU citizen. Except for the Schadenfreude of seeing the most anti-EU government around getting a nice kick in their stiff backside cheeks.

[Allet Klar Chefs]

Won't affect many people even here in the least.

[Urran]

I doubt that it would affect me, though I would care. If the majority of scotts want independence, give it to them and those that don't can just leave. If most want to stay with UK, let them stay.

[United Marxist Nations]

It will envelop me in an argument about the coming referendum. Damn NSG and its addictive ness.

[Estado Nacional]

It wouldn't.

[Frisbeeteria]

How Would Scottish Independence Affect You?

Merged.

[Ravenflight]

Is my tag allowed?

[United Marxist Nations]

How Would Scottish Independence Affect You?

Merged.

We are the Megathread; lower your OP and prepare to be boarded. We will merge your logical and illogical posts with our own. Resistance is futile.

[Alyakia]

Merged.

We are the Megathread; lower your OP and prepare to be boarded. We will merge your logical and illogical posts with our own. Resistance is futile.

the threads are better together

[The Nihilistic view]

As the title suggests, I am interested in hearing how Scottish Independence would affect you. Of course, if the country does break free, then the decision will influence the United Kingdom massively, not to mention the E.U and U.N. How would the Independence affect you, however, if it did happen? How would the Scottish withdrawal from Great Britain affect you, and your family, personally, if at all?

Please do explain your answer fully. One wouldn't want this thread closed due to trolling, flaming or anything like that.

It wouldn't affect me in the slightest, as a non-British EU citizen. Except for the Schadenfreude of seeing the most anti-EU government around getting a nice kick in their stiff backside cheeks.

.............and in the process one part of the country leaving the EU and possibly have it's re-entry vetoed and the other getting closer to the exit as it's most pro Eu region has just fucked off. Turns out the EU just got kicked in the crown jewels as well.