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How to Build a communist Micronation

Postby Argozi » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:49 pm

first, know what a micronation is before you post.

Let's say you want to build a micronation in the suburbs. But you want to make your micronation communist. How do you do it?

I'm wondering cause that's exactly what I want to do.


(and no, mods, I am NOT trying to recruit anyone.)

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:52 pm

And how will you explain to the nation that you are currently living in that you plan to have your own "micronation"?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:54 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:And how will you explain to the nation that you are currently living in that you plan to have your own "micronation"?

I think as long as you keep paying taxes and don't do anything especially illegal they don't really care.
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:55 pm

How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:56 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:And how will you explain to the nation that you are currently living in that you plan to have your own "micronation"?

I think as long as you keep paying taxes and don't do anything especially illegal they don't really care.


If out of principle this person is wanting a micronation, which is by definition is a separate "independent" entity from his "host state," I think his little experiment would last all of 10 minutes before police and or other officials say, "Hey, knock it off." /micronation
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:57 pm

Most micro nations are just ignored.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:58 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I think as long as you keep paying taxes and don't do anything especially illegal they don't really care.


If out of principle this person is wanting a micronation, which is by definition is a separate "independent" entity from his "host state," I think his little experiment would last all of 10 minutes before police and or other officials say, "Hey, knock it off." /micronation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations
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Postby Argozi » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:58 pm

Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:59 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
If out of principle this person is wanting a micronation, which is by definition is a separate "independent" entity from his "host state," I think his little experiment would last all of 10 minutes before police and or other officials say, "Hey, knock it off." /micronation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations


True enough. I guess officials have better things to do than deal with rubbish. Much obliged!
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:00 pm

Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


This =\= Communism.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:00 pm

Argozi wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!


Boy this is even better than I thought!
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:01 pm

Argozi wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!

Well, it's been argued that communism can only work with small populations....
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Postby Kumuri » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:02 pm

Argozi wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!

A commune?
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:03 pm

Argozi wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!


A classless stateless society may be the end goal, but please tell me why anyone that has done anything with the idea of working towards that rather than handing out poorly photocopied fliers or bitching about the ebil capitalists on the internet ends up killing millions.
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Postby Argozi » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:03 pm

Kumuri wrote:
Argozi wrote:
First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!

A commune?


A commune... I guess that could work...would have to find someone who lives in a house with a backyard, though.

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Postby Segland » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:03 pm

Argozi wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!


Look to the communal Soviet apartments for inspiration ;)
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Postby Kumuri » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:04 pm

Argozi wrote:
Kumuri wrote:A commune?


A commune... I guess that could work...would have to find someone who lives in a house with a backyard, though.

Communeist.
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:04 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?


This =\= Communism.


Of course not, but saying communism isn't responsible for millions of deaths is like saying that theocracy doesn't lead to religious oppression.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:04 pm

Segland wrote:
Argozi wrote:
First off, I don't think you know what communism is.

But here's the problem:

How can you have a classless self sufficient society where eceryone contributes to the community and everyone's needs are met...WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT?!


Look to the communal Soviet apartments for inspiration ;)

Looking at the Soviets for examples of communism is not a particularly good idea.
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Postby Argozi » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:06 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Segland wrote:
Look to the communal Soviet apartments for inspiration ;)

Looking at the Soviets for examples of communism is not a particularly good idea.

that was on a national level. we're talking local level.

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Postby Margno » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:06 pm

What you're gonna want to start with is establishing a commune, (or joining an existing one) along with associated workers co op(s) large enough for everyone in it to have work and capable of expansion. Then recruit. If you're good enough, you'll grow. As you grow, diversify. Hit a couple hundred people. You are now a de facto communist micronation paying protection money to the United States.
As for how to get your micronation to not pay taxes to the United States of be subject to its laws: you can't. There's just no possible way.
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:06 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Segland wrote:
Look to the communal Soviet apartments for inspiration ;)

Looking at the Soviets for examples of communism is not a particularly good idea.


Looking at communism in general is not a good idea.
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Postby Kumuri » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:07 pm

Argozi wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Looking at the Soviets for examples of communism is not a particularly good idea.

that was on a national level. we're talking local level.

Marinaleda isn't that bad either.
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Postby Argozi » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:07 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:
This =\= Communism.


Of course not, but saying communism isn't responsible for millions of deaths is like saying that theocracy doesn't lead to religious oppression.


it's not the ideologies themselves, just that they're way too corruptible. And no. saying that about communism is not like saying that about theocracy.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:07 pm

Blazedtown wrote:How do you plan on committing widespread repression and mass executes on a mirconation scale?

I think OP is trying to make a Communist Co-op.
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