Pro-Disease movement, and decline in Vitamin shots

[Magna Libero]

From where do you get the idea that vaccines are necessarily good? I'm not an expert, but I've heard that they might cause some mass epidemics and they might reduce our resistance for epidemies + other side effects*. To a some extent, I think the concept of vaccines is brought by the cronyist greedy corporations. Therefore the choice of not giving vaccines has to be allowed.


Does this include indigenous tribes, primitivists, rastafarians, the Amish and other people who want to stay out of the rest of the world or are against chemicals?

[Citation needed]

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

[Mavorpen]

[Citation needed]

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

So then can we conclude you don't have any actual evidence and you were just making shit up?

If anything he contributed way more than you.

[Britannic Realms]

I didn't mean rabies, I meant a different kind of virus, like a sickness bug.

Ah yes, the sickness bug virus.

I know what I'm calling my next disease in Plague Inc.

Unfortunately, I'm not a walking encyclopaedia of illnesses. By 'sickness bug', I mean a generic illness which makes you physically sick. Like the norovirus I suppose.

[Condunum]

I also take issue with the idea that refusing a vaccination is child abuse. That's absolutely absurd.

It's not absurd at all, it's perfectly reasonable. Refusing to have your child vaccinations is refusing to give them proper medical care.

It's like saying I was abused because I could have contracted an illness from my dog.

No, it's not.

It is indeed that absurd. An argument could be made that prayer healing is child abuse, but not getting vaccinations is just medical ignorance. So long as they bring their child to the doctor whenever they become sick, it's okay at the least.

[Magna Libero]

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

So then can we conclude you don't have any actual evidence and you were just making shit up?

If anything he contributed way more than you.

Hurr durr if you think I'm wrong

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You could atleast explain why I'm wrong, instead of yelling for "Muh citations!"

Chimpanzee.

[Mavorpen]

So then can we conclude you don't have any actual evidence and you were just making shit up?

If anything he contributed way more than you.

Hurr durr if you think I'm wrong

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You could atleast explain why I'm wrong, instead of yelling for "Muh citations!"

Chimpanzee.

Okay, so you don't have evidence and your claim is false.

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

[Condunum]

Hurr durr if you think I'm wrong

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You could atleast explain why I'm wrong, instead of yelling for "Muh citations!"

Chimpanzee.

Okay, do you don't have evidence and your claim is false.

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

Mav, he was right to ask for them to clarrify what they're objecting to. Just asking for a source is lazy debating at the best, and you know it.

[Saiwania]

And this is yet another reason I do not feel comfortable knowing that you plan on having children.

I either will or I won't end up having any biological children, it isn't your business.

[Scomagia]

[Citation needed]

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

I'm asking you to source that colossal load of bullshit in your post. That's a contribution. Stop dodging.

[Tuthina]

And this is yet another reason I do not feel comfortable knowing that you plan on having children.

I either will or I won't end up having any biological children, it isn't your business.

Our friend Ifreann probably will disagree with you there.

[Mavorpen]

Okay, do you don't have evidence and your claim is false.

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

Mav, he was right to ask for them to clarrify what they're objecting to. Just asking for a source is lazy debating at the best, and you know it.

No he wasn't. Go actually read his post. He specifically marked what he wanted a source for:

From where do you get the idea that vaccines are necessarily good? I'm not an expert, but I've heard that they might cause some mass epidemics and they might reduce our resistance for epidemies + other side effects*. To a some extent, I think the concept of vaccines is brought by the cronyist greedy corporations. Therefore the choice of not giving vaccines has to be allowed.


Does this include indigenous tribes, primitivists, rastafarians, the Amish and other people who want to stay out of the rest of the world or are against chemicals?

[Citation needed]

[Magna Libero]

Hurr durr if you think I'm wrong

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You could atleast explain why I'm wrong, instead of yelling for "Muh citations!"

Chimpanzee.

Okay, so you don't have evidence and your claim is false.

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

WHAT??

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

I'm asking you to source that colossal load of bullshit in your post. That's a contribution. Stop dodging.

What part of the "I'm not an expert" and "I've heard"(in a documentary or something) did you miss? Do you seriously expect me to be able to source those?

[Mavorpen]

And this is yet another reason I do not feel comfortable knowing that you plan on having children.

I either will or I won't end up having any biological children, it isn't your business.

Of course it is.

[Mavorpen]

Okay, so you don't have evidence and your claim is false.

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

WHAT??

You really don't understand what makes up an argument, do you?

[Scomagia]

Okay, so you don't have evidence and your claim is false.

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

WHAT??

I'm asking you to source that colossal load of bullshit in your post. That's a contribution. Stop dodging.

What part of the "I'm not an expert" and "I've heard"(in a documentary or something) did you miss? Do you seriously expect me to be able to source those?

I expect you to be able to source claims that you make, yes. That's called debate.

[Sdaeriji]

What part of the "I'm not an expert" and "I've heard"(in a documentary or something) did you miss? Do you seriously expect me to be able to source those?

You heard wrong. Whomever you heard those things from was a disgusting liar. Everything you said was the complete opposite of truth.

[Oaledonia]

Relevant

[Ashmoria]

[Citation needed]

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

your post is the same kind of unscientific crap that gets these parents to put their children in danger.

the evidence that what you have "heard" is stupid is the lack of mass epidemics and how we no longer fear the diseases that vaccines protect us against because they occur so infrequently.

[MERIZoC]

This seems to be on too small a scale to be a significant problem. The anti-vaccine trend is a bigger problem.

[Reliquiae]

Time to thin the herd. Let Darwinism take place.

[Magna Libero]

WHAT??

You really don't understand what makes up an argument, do you?

Prove it wrong, if you can. And stop whining, ffs.

I listed my hypothesis on the issue based on some documentaries and articles that I've seen and read years ago. Do you seriously expect me to know anything about biology and such? It was more like a question or a "maybe, therefore x" than a 100% sure claim.

[Hurdegaryp]

Is it just me, or do others also suspect that the members of the Pro-Disease movement are undercover worshippers of Nurgle, the Chaos God of Disease, Decay, and Destruction? In order to make sure if we're dealing with Nurgle cultists here, try and find the following symbol on pictures featuring Pro-Disease activists:

[Oaledonia]

Time to thin the herd. Let Darwinism take place.

That's sick. Children shouldn't suffer for their parents incompetence.

[Mavorpen]

Excuse me, sir? Don't you have anything that actually contributes to the discussion?

your post is the same kind of unscientific crap that gets these parents to put their children in danger.

the evidence that what you have "heard" is stupid is the lack of mass epidemics and how we no longer fear the diseases that vaccines protect us against because they occur so infrequently.

I mean, if they want to be anti-vaccine, they should be talking about actual problems like overuse in the livestock industry.

[Scomagia]

You really don't understand what makes up an argument, do you?

Prove it wrong, if you can. And stop whining, ffs.

I listed my hypothesis on the issue based on some documentaries and articles that I've seen and read years ago. Do you seriously expect me to know anything about biology and such? It was more like a question or a "maybe, therefore x" than a 100% sure claim.

No one has to prove your claim wrong. You have the burden of proof. If you can't provide evidence for a claim, don't make the claim.