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Postby Norstal » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:26 am

Ucropi wrote:
Norstal wrote:Oh look, it's the PC police.

No you'll notice I asked you and didn't force you.

No? That's not PC? What do you call that then?
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:26 am

Ucropi wrote:
Norstal wrote:Oh look, it's the PC police.

No you'll notice I asked you and didn't force you.

That's how PC works in reality.

Thank you for making our point.

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:26 am

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Viritica wrote:It's political correctness taken to its ultimate extreme. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge this is your problem. Not mine.

Political correctness involves protected groups, so no, it's not.

Me and my group of people who are offended by the term "citizen" should be protected.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:27 am

Norstal wrote:
Viritica wrote:But it's a harmless word that didn't really have any bad meaning to begin with.

It's not harmless if a significant number of people gets offended by them.

Sure, but why should others be forced to accommodate me and my group of US documented workers?
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Postby Norstal » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:27 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Political correctness involves protected groups, so no, it's not.

Me and my group of people who are offended by the term "citizen" should be protected.

Who are your group of people?
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Postby Estado Paulista » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:27 am

It sucks.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Viritica wrote:But it's a harmless word that didn't really have any bad meaning to begin with.

Obviously it does if you're all offended by it.

So now you all have to accommodate us.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Viritica wrote:But what if more people like me start to get offended by the term "citizen" and suddenly the word is removed from all governmental documents.

You mean like "negro" or "nigger"? The government, for one, can decide to remove it if they really wanted to, not really censorship. When it is removed from private works, that is censorship.

It depends on why and how it's being removed.

Example: My friend wrote a script for a short film he was making, and was listing the profiles of actors/extras he needed, and when he was listing their race, he listed "cracker" for all of the white ones, as a joke. When he actually printed the script out for his personal use during the shooting, he replaced cracker with white. This is not censorship. This is acknowledging that sometimes things are inappropriate.

For the record, this was a white, country boy.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 am

Norstal wrote:
Viritica wrote:Me and my group of people who are offended by the term "citizen" should be protected.

Who are your group of people?

People who find the term "citizen" offensive.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Political correctness involves protected groups, so no, it's not.

Me and my group of people who are offended by the term "citizen" should be protected.

And does your group of people have a long history of being socially disadvantaged?
Yes.

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Postby Caninope » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 am

Ucropi wrote:
Norstal wrote:Oh look, it's the PC police.

No you'll notice I asked you and didn't force you.

What do you think PC actually is?
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:29 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Obviously it does if you're all offended by it.

So now you all have to accommodate us.

No. We don't. No one has to.

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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:29 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Obviously it does if you're all offended by it.

So now you all have to accommodate us.

And we will. We'll make sure you never have to read the word citizen again on any government publication. See how nice we are?
Yes.

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:29 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Viritica wrote:Me and my group of people who are offended by the term "citizen" should be protected.

And does your group of people have a long history of being socially disadvantaged?

Well, I'm Jewish so possibly.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:29 am

Viritica wrote:
Norstal wrote:It's not harmless if a significant number of people gets offended by them.

Sure, but why should others be forced to accommodate me and my group of US documented workers?

I'm just going to point out that this is a hilariously bad example, given that document workers and citizens are most definitely nowhere near synonymous.
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Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:29 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Viritica wrote:So now you all have to accommodate us.

And we will. We'll make sure you never have to read the word citizen again on any government publication. See how nice we are stupid this is?
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:30 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:And does your group of people have a long history of being socially disadvantaged?

Well, I'm Jewish so possibly.

But the group of people who are "citizens" exceeds your own heritage.

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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:30 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:And does your group of people have a long history of being socially disadvantaged?

Well, I'm Jewish so possibly.

Is there a particular connection between the word "citizen" and being oppressed for being Jewish?
Yes.

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:30 am

Caninope wrote:
Viritica wrote:Sure, but why should others be forced to accommodate me and my group of US documented workers?

I'm just going to point out that this is a hilariously bad example, given that document workers and citizens are most definitely nowhere near synonymous.

*sigh* Work with me.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:30 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:And we will. We'll make sure you never have to read the word citizen again on any government publication. See how nice we are stupid this is?

Why do you find this stupid? We're trying to help you.
Yes.

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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:30 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:And we will. We'll make sure you never have to read the word citizen again on any government publication. See how nice we are stupid this is?

So...what? I mean, it doesn't really matter. Wastes a little more ink, but nothing else.

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:31 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Viritica wrote:Well, I'm Jewish so possibly.

Is there a particular connection between the word "citizen" and being oppressed for being Jewish?

No, none whatsoever.

Just like there's no connection between the term "illegal immigrant" and Latino minorities being oppressed.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:31 am

Viritica wrote:
Norstal wrote:It's not harmless if a significant number of people gets offended by them.

Sure, but why should others be forced to accommodate me and my group of US documented workers?

No one's forcing you. I use the term "illegal", "nigger", etc. freely. I haven't been censored by the government or even the mods for it. Really, I've been reported for swearing and saying "nigger" but I have not been banned or even warned for it. But if someone asks you to stop using that? That's asking you to adhere to PC. Of course, their standard of PC is different than you and I violate individual standards for it everyday. Knowing their standard of PC is what you're supposed to understand.

For example, you wouldn't use "nigger" in a party full of black people. That is rude and you should know better. You should know saying that word is not PC for everyone in that gathering.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:31 am

Viritica wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Is there a particular connection between the word "citizen" and being oppressed for being Jewish?

No, none whatsoever.

Just like there's no connection between the term "illegal immigrant" and Latino minorities being oppressed.

What about "Wetback" and Latinos?

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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:32 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Viritica wrote:

Why do you find this stupid? We're trying to help you.

People the majority of people shouldn't be forced to accommodate random minorities who are suddenly offended by something that they shouldn't be offended by.
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