Your Opinion of Political Correctness

[Ucropi]

So your constitution has been added too.....

Yes, d'oh. Amendments are a common thing with constitutions. Especially considering that constitution is 250 years old.

You can't expect it to have been unchanged.

Well then what about when the government decides to change it again and remove that amendment?

[Great Kleomentia]

Actually it doesn't even have to be the office. If you act politically incorrect on social networks you are also the target of getting fired. Just cuz.

Because you're harming the company's public image.

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

[Greater-London]

No its not because it's exactly as I described it; common sense and also honesty. It's not continuing to offend people when they raise an issue and ask you to stop. Most importantly it's about taking responsibility for what you say and how you act, accepting that others might take issue with what you're saying and not complaining about being called a bigot for it. It's never been about ensuring you never offend anybody by never talking about certain topics, that's a load quite frankly.

Except not. If you look at a dictionary definition of political correctness it goes like this

the avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against

OR

demonstrating progressive ideals, esp by avoiding vocabulary that is considered offensive, discriminatory, or judgmental

I agree with all of what you said. I think that your right but I'm sorry, your not describing political correctness your describing something different. We are in essence in agreement just the way you've defined political correctness is wrong.

PC isn't simply "don't be a dick" as the name suggest's it contains within it restriction on language and expression on the grounds that it "might be offensive" not that it definitely is. Which is why its politically correct to use terms like "Afro-Caribbean" or "African American" despite the fact most people aren't bothered about the use of the world "black".Its pussy footing and walking on egg shells its not as simple as common sense.

[Keyboard Warriors]

Why?

Because it is used to solely refer to black people (many of which are not african) and not to people of african decent.

Meanwhile the word nigger has a long and infamous relationship with the oppression of black americans. African-American is not and never will be comparably racist to that word.

[Caninope]

Why?

Because it is used to solely refer to black people (many of which are not african) and not to people of african decent.

You've literally got to be kidding me. You're now telling me that a commonly used and accepted name (including within the group) for a racial group is to be considered racist?

[Juristonia]

Because you're harming the company's public image.

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

Which has nothing to do with the right to free speech since the government =/= private enterprise.

[Ucropi]

Because it is used to solely refer to black people (many of which are not african) and not to people of african decent.

So it's /incorrect/, to some level.

But how is it actually racist?

Pretty sure there are white people in africa that have been there longer than America has been a country. Why are they not african american? Because they're white?

[Caninope]

Yes, d'oh. Amendments are a common thing with constitutions. Especially considering that constitution is 250 years old.

You can't expect it to have been unchanged.

Well then what about when the government decides to change it again and remove that amendment?

It's a mighty good thing we made it so hard for the various levels of US government to do that then.

[Ucropi]

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

Which has nothing to do with the right to free speech since the government =/= private enterprise.

So if I got a job at say the DMV I could spout offensive crap all day and would be protected?

[Krasivovia]

But how is it actually racist?

It is racist since it is labeling a whole group of people under the same denomination based on the colour of their skin. (i.e: "since you are black, you must be of African descent").

[Great Kleomentia]

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

Which has nothing to do with the right to free speech since the government =/= private enterprise.

If the government cannot insure free speech to all of its citizens then it is equally their fault.

[Kelinfort]

Because you're harming the company's public image.

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

Your employer can do whatever he wants with you, so long as it is legal and not discriminatory. Sorry, pal, but that's life.

[Juristonia]

So it's /incorrect/, to some level.

But how is it actually racist?

Pretty sure there are white people in africa that have been there longer than America has been a country. Why are they not african american? Because they're white?

Why do you keep answering questions with questions about things literally no one but you mentioned?

[Rephesus]

It depends on the context. A Politician, Diplomat, Judge or other public figure should be Politically Correct, as should teachers and police. But non-officials should be able to say things that aren't blatantly offensive. For example, saying 'Black/White' isn't rude, Saying "African American/Caucasian" is politically correct, and saying "Nigger/Cracker" is blatantly offensive, and shouldn't be used in an offensive manner.

"African-American" is as racist as the "N-word"

No, it's not. African-American is recognizing someone who's an American citizen of African decent, just like a European-American (although you rarely hear that) or Asian-American or (Nationality)-American, etc. The N word (Unless I'm thinking of the wrong one) is a racism term used to imply inferiority with a heavily negative connotation.

[Caninope]

Because you're harming the company's public image.

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

That's also false. I'm sure a racist could very well find a job- in fact, I'm fairly sure I've met quite a few. But the biggest problem you have with political correctness is that you want to exercise your rights without recognizing their corresponding responsibilities.

[Great Kleomentia]

But how is it actually racist?

It is racist since it is labeling a whole group of people under the same denomination based on the colour of their skin. (i.e: "since you are black, you must be of African descent").

You realize how ridiculous your argument is?

[Kelinfort]

Which has nothing to do with the right to free speech since the government =/= private enterprise.

If the government cannot insure free speech to all of its citizens then it is equally their fault.

You still can say whatever you like, but it doesn't protect you from others firing you. If you don't like it, write a law.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Because you're harming the company's public image.

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

You can, just not in a manner that makes you look bad

[Stevid]

Those who disagree with the arguments presented under its context are demonized as racists, misogynists, atheists or pagans, or greedy.

No, those who are racists, misogynists, atheists or pagans, or greedy are described as racists, misogynists, atheists or pagans, or greedy, respectively. Don't know why "atheists or pagans" is in there, though...

Sort of...

There are great exceptions to this that we see day to day all the time.

E.g (1):

One can be against gay marriage. Utterly convinced in their convictions - "Homesexuals should not marry." His argument may have a decent case to it citing, I dunno, religious grounds or legal implications. However, society has, by large, accepted the human right for a homesexual couple to marry, thus one with personal/political/religious views homesexual marriage (not homosexuality itself) is often victimised/abused/branded as homophobic. They may not be homophobic at all, they just have a view on the marriage aspect. It's just a minor point of view, however the politically correct societies we tend to live in now victimise those people that have a more 'old fashioned' outlook on modernist issues like that which I have mentioned.

What I'm trying to say here in this instance, it is politically incorrect (seemingly) to have a counter opinion on a delicate issue just as gay marriage to the point where someone will brand the opposition as homophobic. The very fact gay people can marry is a testament to freedom and democracy, but one should still have a differing point of view without a group going all totalitarian and demanding those voices of opposition be crushed.

E.g (2):

Dunno how true this is now, but I read an article some years ago on the BBC that certain superstores in the United States (maybe New York, can't remember) had to refer to the Christmas period with the slogan "Happy Holidays!" as opposed to "Merry Christmas!" in case it would offend non-Christian religious minorities in the name of political correctness. If true, correct me if wrong, this is quite absurd.

E.g (3):

I've locked horns with one or two atheists in the past about my religious beliefs whereby I have to justify my beliefs to them who would simply label me as a 'deluded idiot' for believing such nonsense. I don't brand atheists as Godless rejects but to be labelled the opposite by people who don't even believe is incredibly hypocritical. Atheists tend to find they get away with, and they certainly could in NS because they are in the majority on here, because they shout there's no evidence - the majority have the shout = not politically incorrect.

"Picky-choosy" political correctness at its finest.

[Ifreann]

Yes, d'oh. Amendments are a common thing with constitutions. Especially considering that constitution is 250 years old.

You can't expect it to have been unchanged.

Well then what about when the government decides to change it again and remove that amendment?

Then it will be different. What happens in your country when the government amends or repeals a previously passed law?

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Because you're harming the company's public image.

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

You can, as long as you're sufficiently dissociated from your place of work, or if you phrase it in such a way as to not harm their public image.

[Arglorand]

So it's /incorrect/, to some level.

But how is it actually racist?

Pretty sure there are white people in africa that have been there longer than America has been a country. Why are they not african american? Because they're white?

Because they're not American. European-African, however, is sometimes used as a term.

Really, what the hell are you even on? It sounds to me like you're not actually concerned about racism here so much as you're trying to legitimise using the n-word, which is ONLY used as a bloody ethnic slur.

[Juristonia]

Which has nothing to do with the right to free speech since the government =/= private enterprise.

If the government cannot insure free speech to all of its citizens then it is equally their fault.

You have the right to say what you want.
Your employer has the right to can you.
As a capitalist, I would've thought you loved that sorta thing.

[Elezmera]

The "the US has the freedom of speech, you have the right to say anything, and I have the right to rebuttal, or feel threatened and taze the sh*t out of you.." is my political correctness philosophy.

[Great Kleomentia]

And hence if you want to have a job you cant express your opinion on something, because political correctness.

That's also false. I'm sure a racist could very well find a job- in fact, I'm fairly sure I've met quite a few. But the biggest problem you have with political correctness is that you want to exercise your rights without recognizing their corresponding responsibilities.

Words should be answered with words or silence, not actions.

[Caninope]

So it's /incorrect/, to some level.

But how is it actually racist?

Pretty sure there are white people in africa that have been there longer than America has been a country. Why are they not african american? Because they're white?

Well, I'd assume it's because if they're in Africa, they're not in America.