Your Opinion of Political Correctness

[Pope Joan]

1. Rand Paul?
2. Many Republicans have already said this.
3. See above.
4. This is not the GOP's official position.
5. See above.

Pardon me for the source, but it is not a left wing phenomena alone: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... nservative)

Thanks, those are some great examples.

Earlier we may have called them sacred cows or shibboleths.

[Faith Hope Charity]

Political Correctness is another term for Censorship, a straight up 1st amendment violation.

[Gaiserin]

Unnecessary, irrational and pitiful concept created for hypersensitive people, whom have no mental tolerance for anything even remotely negative.

All in all, society doesn't need it.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

Not being able to say offensive things without being called out on it is literally 1984.

[Spoder]

Political Correctness is another term for Censorship, a straight up 1st amendment violation.

:clap::clap:

[Trezchoix]

one of the dumbest ideas EVER created.

[Regnum Dominae]

Political Correctness is another term for Censorship, a straight up 1st amendment violation.

Criticism is not censorship, and freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

[Frisbeeteria]

It's intolerably insufferable and it needs to go the way of the dinosaur in a similarly cataclysmic end. It is an enemy to any freedom of speech or thought and it has become a tool for oppression and double standard.

Pretty much this. Plus, it's heavily used here in NSG to stifle opposing views, which I find incredibly abhorrent in a forum that supposedly revolves around free expression of opinions. I particularly despise the use of PC in mob posting, where a thundering waterfall of posts descends on anyone who opposes the "correct" truth.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

It's intolerably insufferable and it needs to go the way of the dinosaur in a similarly cataclysmic end. It is an enemy to any freedom of speech or thought and it has become a tool for oppression and double standard.

Pretty much this. Plus, it's heavily used here in NSG to stifle opposing views, which I find incredibly abhorrent in a forum that supposedly revolves around free expression of opinions. I particularly despise the use of PC in mob posting, where a thundering waterfall of posts descends on anyone who opposes the "correct" truth.

Poor people with bigoted views.

[Kelinfort]

It's intolerably insufferable and it needs to go the way of the dinosaur in a similarly cataclysmic end. It is an enemy to any freedom of speech or thought and it has become a tool for oppression and double standard.

Pretty much this. Plus, it's heavily used here in NSG to stifle opposing views, which I find incredibly abhorrent in a forum that supposedly revolves around free expression of opinions. I particularly despise the use of PC in mob posting, where a thundering waterfall of posts descends on anyone who opposes the "correct" truth.

Aren't you part of the political correctness police? Always snuffing out trolls and flamers who just wanted their freedom of speech?

/sarcasm

[Herskerstad]

Well, there's no reason to tolerate xenophobic/racist/homophobic/anti-semitic/Islamophobic/prejudiced speech.
But I think that the context also needs to be considered.

Yeah, about the Islamophobic word. I've always had an issue with that because it gets treated as any offensive words hurled at either Muslims or directly on the religion of Islam, even when the two are not mutually exclusive.

Let me make an example. I remember once Hitchen's was called an anti-semitic because of one of his rants on the old testament, now, I don't think Hitchen's himself had an anti-semitic bone in his body, because he had huge issues with the old testament, but not with the Jews as a people.

Now I for example think the quran and certain hadiths are filled with stuff that calls people to offensive Jihad, and that the religion itself calls for some pretty offensive actions, as the founder of the religion himself had more than a fair share of moral controversies, among others several instances of torture, warfare, tribe-cleansing trials, strongly arguably sex with a pre-pubecent minor 'if they followed their own laws' and tons and tons of scientific inaccuracies, sometimes often backed up by Allah. As always, if anyone is curious I can source the sources for these as some of them come from the Quran and other from hadiths. In short, arguably a shitload of bad stuff that not too many people know about, and whom Muslims are told is the perfect example, which is a factor why radicalization in some western communities is becoming an increasing problem. Now in terms of the wording, it would be Islamophobic of me to say I think Muhammad is overall more evil than good, and worthy of more than a few offensive words, but that does not mean I somehow hate Muslims even though I'd strongly disagree with whom they keep as a moral example. When i think it would not be problematic to be 'Islamophobic' in the sense that I can expose the negatives in the religion and how that has played on a world stage, but that it would be bad to be 'Islamophobic' as in bashing people due to race, pigmentation of skin or such. Why must I and certain people, including anti-theists which I don't exactly ally with be thrown in with a what is essentially a denominator for hate groups?

[Kelinfort]

Political Correctness is another term for Censorship, a straight up 1st amendment violation.

First Amendment says nothing about it. It never said you're free from criticism or getting your feelings hurt. It's a two way street.

[Gaiserin]

Political Correctness is another term for Censorship, a straight up 1st amendment violation.

First Amendment says nothing about it. It never said you're free from criticism or getting your feelings hurt. It's a two way street.

Criticism and censorship are two entirely different things..

[Alyakia]

Pretty much this. Plus, it's heavily used here in NSG to stifle opposing views, which I find incredibly abhorrent in a forum that supposedly revolves around free expression of opinions. I particularly despise the use of PC in mob posting, where a thundering waterfall of posts descends on anyone who opposes the "correct" truth.

Aren't you part of the political correctness police? Always snuffing out trolls and flamers who just wanted their freedom of speech?

/sarcasm

you'd be quite surprised at what he's willing to let slip actually. give him some credit.

political correctness is pretty good and 50% of the complaining over it is literally people that are just mad they can't say "nigger" anymore

[54e]

Not being able to say offensive things without being called out on it is literally 1984.

Wait, literally?

Political correctness is retarded. Is that not okay?

[Galloism]

It's intolerably insufferable and it needs to go the way of the dinosaur in a similarly cataclysmic end. It is an enemy to any freedom of speech or thought and it has become a tool for oppression and double standard.

Pretty much this. Plus, it's heavily used here in NSG to stifle opposing views, which I find incredibly abhorrent in a forum that supposedly revolves around free expression of opinions. I particularly despise the use of PC in mob posting, where a thundering waterfall of posts descends on anyone who opposes the "correct" truth.

Indeed. This is doubly true when one brings studies, narratives, and reasoned arguements supporting that the general sexist/racist view in question is quite wrong, but because the poster doesn't kowtow to the accepted narrative, he or she is shouted down as sexist or racist. It's doubly irritating when the accepted view is, itself, really fucking sexist/racist.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

Not being able to say offensive things without being called out on it is literally 1984.

Wait, literally?

Political correctness is retarded. Is that not okay?

That's awful edgy there.

[Vettrera]

often times overdone, but people blaming things on Political Correctness is also overdone as well...
It's necessary to be conscious of what we say though, of course so that blatantly offensive comments don't go without consequence...but where do we draw the line? I dunno. I just personally try to be as considerate as I need to be to get my point across.

[Castille de Italia]

There's things that shouldn't be said, but I think the term 'brown paper bag' shouldn't be offensive to anyone.

[54e]

Wait, literally?

Political correctness is retarded. Is that not okay?

That's awful edgy there.

You know, I try really hard to be different

[Herskerstad]

Aren't you part of the political correctness police? Always snuffing out trolls and flamers who just wanted their freedom of speech?

/sarcasm

you'd be quite surprised at what he's willing to let slip actually. give him some credit.

political correctness is pretty good and 50% of the complaining over it is literally people that are just mad they can't say "nigger" anymore

Yeah, source that shit, because if you pulled that out of your ass then you are trying to marginalize a sizeable part of a group based on a very narrow and selective opinion.

It'd be like me saying ' Only reason democrats are pro-choice is that 50% of them really wants to eat babies' or ' Half of the people who support the GOP wants to reinstitute slavery'

[Vamtrl]

Just so were clear what's being discussed:

From Merriam Webster's:

Politically Correct: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated.

I know a lot of unnecessary rhetoric comes under scrutiny for being politically incorrect, but we're just discussing the above. Many of course claim that this is "onerous" and prevents truth from being told. So I want to know, NS, what is your opinion of political correctness?

As for me, I believe some of it is unnecessary and downright unneeded, however, the word political correctness is terrible for describing what it truly is: not being an asshole.

Sometimes speaking the truth can make you sound like an asshole.

Like on the topic of national homicides: Black people make up a minority of the population but make up the vast majority of the homicides. Most of the arguments always diverts back to white people when the large share of the problem is because of their culture.

Religion: What is a moderate muslim?

[Gristol-Serkonos]

http://i.imgur.com/v9Ej1.png

I live by the Stephen Fry code.

[The Serbian Empire]

I'm opposed to political correctness as it means one can't even be frank about certain matters otherwise someone may presume the worst. It's a bad day when one thinks the "Black Box" is racist.

[The Serbian Empire]

Just so were clear what's being discussed:

From Merriam Webster's:

I know a lot of unnecessary rhetoric comes under scrutiny for being politically incorrect, but we're just discussing the above. Many of course claim that this is "onerous" and prevents truth from being told. So I want to know, NS, what is your opinion of political correctness?

As for me, I believe some of it is unnecessary and downright unneeded, however, the word political correctness is terrible for describing what it truly is: not being an asshole.

Sometimes speaking the truth can make you sound like an asshole.

Like on the topic of national homicides: Black people make up a minority of the population but make up the vast majority of the homicides. Most of the arguments always diverts back to white people when the large share of the problem is because of their culture.

Religion: What is a moderate muslim?

One that isn't supporting terrorist organizations and opposes the actions of said terrorists?