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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:54 pm

Ah, young lust. The things these teens will do nowadays.

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Wind in the Willows
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:18 pm

I think the death penalty is in order.

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Lenciland
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Postby Lenciland » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:01 pm

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Chestaan wrote:Now this may be a stupid question, but what is the point in treating those who are underage differently under the law if you are just going to try them as adults if the crime happens to be serious enough? Surely it should be either everyone who is not an adult does not get tried as an adult or everyone gets tried the same?


I think this doesn't attack the problem at the root. The problem is our culture promotes fighting over girls. I propose we just ban heterosexual relationships. Problem solved. No more fighting over females....which are gross and icky anyway.

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I think that he should be tried as an adult, but he should also have a rigorous psychiatric exam because he obviously has problems that need to be addressed. I think that he should either go to jail to serve his sentence or go to a mental facility to get the care he needs.
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Postby National Socialist » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:01 pm

Have him shot immediately.
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Paixao
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Postby Paixao » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:06 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Fighting over girls hurts people.

Solution: ban heterosexual relationships. No more fighting over girls.


And Lesbian relationships too, while you're at it.

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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:10 pm

Paixao wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Fighting over girls hurts people.

Solution: ban heterosexual relationships. No more fighting over girls.


And Lesbian relationships too, while you're at it.

*nods*


Indeed. If memory serves me right, poor little Shanda Sharer was killed over jealousy in such a relationship. While we're at it, I propose that we create a Ministry of Love that will pair everyone together. That way, no one has to deal with the hassle of controlling themselves, for they will be controlled by others. Convenient, right?

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Boomhaueristan
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Postby Boomhaueristan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:28 pm

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Viritica wrote:Doesn't matter. He's old enough to know what he was doing was wrong. He took a human life and now he has to face the consequences.


Illegal. He knew what he was doing was illegal. Right and wrong are subjective, don't bring morality into this.

And I'm saying if he isn't legally considered an adult, HE IS NOT a fucking adult.

I think it's fair to say that sending death messages and then strangling a kid to death over puppy love is wrong no matter how you look at things.

Cold blooded murder deserves a harsh sentence no matter how young you are. Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Gold were out of prison at the age of 21 after shooting up their school, because of such laws for minors. It was ridiculous then, and it'd be ridiculous now to be soft on underage murderers.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:50 pm

So wait, he was a fan of crime TV shows, but decided that the best way to get away with his crime was to personally threaten his victim, advertise to his friends that he wanted him dead, then strangle him?

He is clearly not a clever man.
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The Union of the West
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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:59 pm

So, what do you guys think? I think the judge did right in making the choice of giving him a trial as an adult. Further, I think this is a kid who didn't know what he was doing and nobody has ever told him the difference between fact and fiction, which Dexter clearly is, fiction.


I think the judge did the right thing.

A further question to ponder is, is it ever okay to harm someone else for the sake of "love"? Is it acceptable to kill someone over wanting to be with them? Or do you guys think this is just another symptom of the macho attitude in certain portions of America? Or is it something completely different?


1) It's never acceptable to kill someone, other than in defense.

2) "Love" doesn't exist, especially during teen years. It's just chemical reactions and raging hormones.

I don't think harming other people for the sake of "love" or other ideal is correct except for self-defense, so I think that this only furthers the notion that there's certain things that need to be changed, such as the notion that you do anything for love and such other maxims that are noxious for society.


Agreed.
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:10 am

Fuckin' beta losers have to resort to murder to get their girl.

Enjoy trimming your neckbeards in prison.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:15 am

I think he should have been given life imprisonment. He took someone else's life in a premediated fashion.

And no, it is not ok to kill people over relationship problems.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:16 am

Ashmoria wrote:he knew what he was doing. I see no reason not to try him as an adult.

and no it is never right to try to get rid of romantic rivals through violence. a sweetheart is a person not a prize to be won.

Amen.
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