What if the Republicans actually Impeach the President?

[Alien Space Bats]

No, Obama has done nothing worthy of impeachment 94 57%

It seems that 94 of us haven't read the Constitution, or at least don't care about it.

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

Well, for starters, he won two elections against Republicans.

Republicans think that merely BEING a Democrat is unconstitutional.

[The Black Forrest]

Obama actually tried to extend the War in Iraq and keep US troops in there longer, and has enormously expanded the War in Afghanistan.

Is extending wars unconstitutional? Those were temporary surges, but we are now pulling out.

When it's Obama? Yes it is obviously.

[Alcase]

Well before we start throwing around the terms constitutional and unconstitutional, let's go ahead and all review this:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

This is very important. Please read BEFORE you decide to post something akin to ignorance.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

No, Obama has done nothing worthy of impeachment 94 57%

It seems that 94 of us haven't read the Constitution, or at least don't care about it.

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

[The Black Forrest]

Well before we start throwing around the terms constitutional and unconstitutional, let's go ahead and all review this:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

This is very important. Please read BEFORE you decide to post something akin to ignorance.

Oh but do point out the ignorance.

[Unicario]

Any attempts by the Republican Party to start an impeachment vote would go disasterously for them. They'd be out on their ass in November 2014 and 2016, because most Americans would see it as a power ploy to avoid dealing with the problems of the day.

That, and, even if the GOP votes to impeach, the President isn't removed from office unless convicted of a crime -- which means the Senate has to hold a trial and there's nothing they can get Obama on -- violating the constitution with spying programs? All evidence points to the fact that the program was heavily expanded under Bush's DHS. So... no.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Lolno. Obama actually tried to extend the War in Iraq and keep US troops in there longer, and has enormously expanded the War in Afghanistan.

Err? Then why aren't you guys trying get the Shrub and Cheney up on charges?

Oi, I ain't no Republican. They should be charged too.

[Unicario]

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

Obamacare isn't unconstitutional, mate. The Supreme Court ruled on that already. Now, parts of it are being ruled unconstitutional, but mostly because you have Supreme Court judges who are on the GOP payroll.

[Farnhamia]

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

Things you don't approve of are not necessarily unconstitutional. He didn't need congressional approval to order air strikes in Libya. There is an NDAA every single year, it authorizes payment for Nation Defense stuff. And the powers in that one that everyone got so upset about already existed, the act only affirmed them. The rest of it is just stuff and nonsense.

[Alcase]

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

There's nothing in the Constitution that states he has no power over the U.S. military
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he CAN'T SIGN A BILL INTO LAW (This is literally like the most important power the President has)
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he can't expand Bush-era National Security programs
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he can't draft Obamacare for the U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND U.S. SENATE to pass onto him
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he can't continue to bailout (bailout what, I don't care)
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he cannot operate the U.S. military
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he cannot expand corporate welfare and subsidy programs

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

Obamacare isn't unconstitutional, mate. The Supreme Court ruled on that already. Now, parts of it are being ruled unconstitutional, but mostly because you have Supreme Court judges who are on the GOP payroll.

Segregation was also ruled constitutional. The Supreme Court's word may be binding, but it's just as fallible as anyone else. Nothing even remotely resembling Obamacare or any kind of program related to it exists in the Enumerated Powers. And the Commerce Clause argument is bullshit, because Obamacare is essentially compulsion of commerce rather than regulation of it.

[The Republic of Gardium]

He broke the law with the bergdahl trade, he didn't notify congress. He has unilaterally altered laws. He probably had a hand in the IRS and other scandals. He has done unlawful stuff, but nothing will happen because nobody in Washington has the guts to stand up to him.

[Farnhamia]

Obamacare isn't unconstitutional, mate. The Supreme Court ruled on that already. Now, parts of it are being ruled unconstitutional, but mostly because you have Supreme Court judges who are on the GOP payroll.

Segregation was also ruled constitutional. The Supreme Court's word may be binding, but it's just as fallible as anyone else. Nothing even remotely resembling Obamacare or any kind of program related to it exists in the Enumerated Powers. And the Commerce Clause argument is bullshit, because Obamacare is essentially compulsion of commerce rather than regulation of it.

Well, the Court has ruled on it. You either believe in the rule of law and the review powers of the judiciary, or you don't. If you don't, I can't talk to you because you reject one of the foundations of America.

[Neutraligon]

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

1)Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
2)Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
3)Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
4)Created Obamacare
5)Continued the bailouts
6)Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
7)Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

1) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
2) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
3) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
4) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
5) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
6) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
7) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment

[West Angola]

They'll get routed in November and crushed in 2016. Seriously, the guy's done nothing unconstitutional, and trying to impeach the President on shaky grounds always blows up in the GOP's faces.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

Things you don't approve of are not necessarily unconstitutional.

Things that are explicitly authorised by the Constitution are unconstitutional. Just ask James Madison, the guy who wrote it.

He didn't need congressional approval to order air strikes in Libya.

Air strikes are an act of war.

There is an NDAA every single year, it authorizes payment for Nation Defense stuff. And the powers in that one that everyone got so upset about already existed, the act only affirmed them. The rest of it is just stuff and nonsense.

You know what I mean. Indefinite detention of Americans is a clear violation of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments.

[Neutraligon]

Obamacare isn't unconstitutional, mate. The Supreme Court ruled on that already. Now, parts of it are being ruled unconstitutional, but mostly because you have Supreme Court judges who are on the GOP payroll.

Segregation was also ruled constitutional. The Supreme Court's word may be binding, but it's just as fallible as anyone else. Nothing even remotely resembling Obamacare or any kind of program related to it exists in the Enumerated Powers. And the Commerce Clause argument is bullshit, because Obamacare is essentially compulsion of commerce rather than regulation of it.

Yes and? It was then made illegal thanks to the Civil Rights Act. The Supreme Courts decision on constitutionality of something is the only opinion that matters.

[West Angola]

He broke the law with the bergdahl trade, he didn't notify congress.

President takes decisive action to secure a man's release rather than follow proper procedure and allow him to die in a Taliban prison. Clearly, the man is mad with power.

He has unilaterally altered laws.

Not illegal. Congress legislates, the Executive Branch executes. They have a say in how a law is implemented.

He probably had a hand in the IRS and other scandals.

Guys! I swear he's maybe done bad stuff! Really I promise maybe!

He has done unlawful stuff, but nothing will happen because nobody in Washington has the guts to stand up to him.

Or won't, because there's no need to stop him from legally doing his job.

[The Black Forrest]

He broke the law with the bergdahl trade, he didn't notify congress. He has unilaterally altered laws. He probably had a hand in the IRS and other scandals. He has done unlawful stuff, but nothing will happen because nobody in Washington has the guts to stand up to him.

Congress approval for Bergdahl?

Altered laws?

IRS stuff?

He is probably a witch too!

[Alcase]

He broke the law with the bergdahl trade, he didn't notify congress. He has unilaterally altered laws. He probably had a hand in the IRS and other scandals. He has done unlawful stuff, but nothing will happen because nobody in Washington has the guts to stand up to him.

As Chief Diplomat, him negotiating the Taliban-Bergdhal trade was, in no way, an impeachable action.

[Norstal]

Segregation was also ruled constitutional. The Supreme Court's word may be binding, but it's just as fallible as anyone else. Nothing even remotely resembling Obamacare or any kind of program related to it exists in the Enumerated Powers. And the Commerce Clause argument is bullshit, because Obamacare is essentially compulsion of commerce rather than regulation of it.

Yes and? It was then made illegal thanks to the Civil Rights Act. The Supreme Courts decision on constitutionality of something is the only opinion that matters.

No, see, the Supreme Court may, in the future, strike Obamacare as unconstitutional. We don't know when, but we just know that it will. So because of this possibility, this means that it's unconstitutional.

-Insane libertarian logic 2016

[The New Sea Territory]

Drone Strikes and supporting the NSA are unconstitutional. All presidents do something we could impeach them for.

Umm, how are those unconstitutional?

Drone striking is an act of war. Not declared directly by Congress.

The NSA searches people without warrants.

Either way, I don't really care about impeaching Obama because it is not productive.

[Geilinor]

So tell us what Obama has done that is unconstitutional.

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval The War Powers Resolution requires a notification.
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedges_v._Obama Even if parts of it are ruled unconstitutional in the future, remember that having something struck down by the Supreme Court is not grounds for impeachment. 176 laws have been struck down, but none of the presidents who signed the legislation have been not impeached.
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACLU_v._NSA
Created Obamacare The Supreme Court would disagree.
Continued the bailouts Where does the Constitution say bailouts are unconstitutional?
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Terrorists
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs See "bailouts".

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
Created Obamacare
Continued the bailouts
Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

There's nothing in the Constitution that states he has no power over the U.S. military
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he CAN'T SIGN A BILL INTO LAW (This is literally like the most important power the President has)
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he can't expand Bush-era National Security programs
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he can't draft Obamacare for the U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND U.S. SENATE to pass onto him
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he can't continue to bailout (bailout what, I don't care)
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he cannot operate the U.S. military
There's nothing in the Constitution that states he cannot expand corporate welfare and subsidy programs

It seems that you didn't read the very document you linked to the thread.

He needs a declaration of war to go to war with another country.
The NDAA authorises indefinite detention of Americans on the grounds of mere suspicion.
Again, Bill of Rights.
Enumerated Powers. Read them.
Same as above.
My God, you really haven't read the Constitution at all, have you?

Something that is unconstitutional is something that is either not authorised by the Constitution or explicitly forbid by it.

[The New Sea Territory]

1)Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval
2)Signed the National Defense Authorisation Act
3)Expanded Bush-era 'national security' programs
4)Created Obamacare
5)Continued the bailouts
6)Operates an extra-judicial drone strike program that has murdered hundreds of innocents, including several American citizens
7)Expanded corporate welfare and subsidy programs

1) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
2) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
3) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
4) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
5) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
6) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment
7) Not unconstitutional and not grounds for impeachment

The first actually is unconstitutional. The rest aren't.