pLEase stop oppressing me!
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by Greater Yisrael » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:44 pm
by Greater Yisrael » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:46 pm
Othelos wrote:Guys, don't respond to Yisrael.
by Othelos » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:46 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I find it so strange when people get up in arms about tax payer money subsidizing abortions. The truth is, those seeking an abortion more often than not, pay for the procedure themselves. There are some charitable organizations that can help with the costs if the person's eligible, but more often than, the person pays, not the state, not the tax payer.
Now, I do believe that if you're paying for your medical insurance, that it should cover the procedure because it is a medical procedure like teeth removals are, or kidney stone surgery is.
I feel medical insurance should pay for abortions. Or in a universal health care system it should be something that is an integral part of it. Mostly because as much as it is optional, it is a therapeutic procedure that can potentially save someone's life.
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:16 pm
Othelos wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
I feel medical insurance should pay for abortions. Or in a universal health care system it should be something that is an integral part of it. Mostly because as much as it is optional, it is a therapeutic procedure that can potentially save someone's life.
I agree.
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by The Rich Port » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:23 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I find it so strange when people get up in arms about tax payer money subsidizing abortions. The truth is, those seeking an abortion more often than not, pay for the procedure themselves. There are some charitable organizations that can help with the costs if the person's eligible, but more often than, the person pays, not the state, not the tax payer.
Now, I do believe that if you're paying for your medical insurance, that it should cover the procedure because it is a medical procedure like teeth removals are, or kidney stone surgery is.
I feel medical insurance should pay for abortions. Or in a universal health care system it should be something that is an integral part of it. Mostly because as much as it is optional, it is a therapeutic procedure that can potentially save someone's life.
by Frisbeeteria » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:25 pm
Greater Yisrael wrote:pLEase stop oppressing me!
by Othelos » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:50 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
I feel medical insurance should pay for abortions. Or in a universal health care system it should be something that is an integral part of it. Mostly because as much as it is optional, it is a therapeutic procedure that can potentially save someone's life.
Not only that, but it's a vital social function as well.
A child that arrives at the wrong time can wreck lifetimes, it's own included, considering that nobody is capable or willing to take responsibility for it if it comes down to an abortion.
We have enough problems without adding problems because of irrational beliefs about aborting a foetus.
by The Rich Port » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:20 pm
by James Deans » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:38 pm
by Erma Kanhato » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:44 pm
by Condunum » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:46 pm
James Deans wrote:I don't give a fuck about abortion. What I care about is my tax dollars subsidizing reckless behavior, you want to ride a bunch of guys? Go ahead, just don't expect me to pay for your stupid choices.
by Solocon » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:02 pm
by James Deans » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:02 pm
All of them aren't whores, it still doesn't make their pregnancy my problem. Why should my money go to this? Get all the abortions you want as long as you pay for it yourself.Condunum wrote:James Deans wrote:I don't give a fuck about abortion. What I care about is my tax dollars subsidizing reckless behavior, you want to ride a bunch of guys? Go ahead, just don't expect me to pay for your stupid choices.
Good thing that doesn't happen, huh?
Protip, women who get abortions are not whores, and it'd be nice of you not to act like they are.
by Condunum » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:03 pm
James Deans wrote:All of them aren't whores, it still doesn't make their pregnancy my problem. Why should my money go to this? Get all the abortions you want as long as you pay for it yourself.Condunum wrote:Good thing that doesn't happen, huh?
Protip, women who get abortions are not whores, and it'd be nice of you not to act like they are.
by Trygg » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:03 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Trygg wrote:What did you say about dinosaursI mean, I know an average amount about abortion, but can anyone tell me if it's a physically painful experience for the mother or the fetus? Just curious.
The woman is given, if she desires, medication to numb some of the discomfort although some of it still remains. The process is quick.
by Ashmoria » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:04 pm
Erma Kanhato wrote:i alread make a abbortion with my girlfriend, and here in my country this is a crime lol
and i make this again if necessary
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:04 pm
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by Condunum » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:05 pm
Solocon wrote:I think that abortion should be allowed up to a certain point in the fetus's development- if a woman is raped or a disorder comes up, don't women have the right? Abortion for "convenience" is not really something I support, but it should be a right if women support it.
That's the other thing: this whole debate involves WOMEN. It does not involve men. I will never need an abortion, nor will any biological male, so we shouldn't really be deciding this issue.
by Trygg » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:07 pm
Solocon wrote:I think that abortion should be allowed up to a certain point in the fetus's development- if a woman is raped or a disorder comes up, don't women have the right? Abortion for "convenience" is not really something I support, but it should be a right if women support it.
That's the other thing: this whole debate involves WOMEN. It does not involve men. I will never need an abortion, nor will any biological male, so we shouldn't really be deciding this issue.
by Mavorpen » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:09 pm
by James Deans » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:12 pm
by Solocon » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:13 pm
Condunum wrote:Solocon wrote:I think that abortion should be allowed up to a certain point in the fetus's development- if a woman is raped or a disorder comes up, don't women have the right? Abortion for "convenience" is not really something I support, but it should be a right if women support it.
That's the other thing: this whole debate involves WOMEN. It does not involve men. I will never need an abortion, nor will any biological male, so we shouldn't really be deciding this issue.
Err... The decision lies solely with the pregnant person. Not even another woman has the right to deny another woman an abortion. The debate is on whether it should be a right, gender doesn't really matter here because no one has more authority on a right because it involves their gender.
Trygg wrote:Solocon wrote:I think that abortion should be allowed up to a certain point in the fetus's development- if a woman is raped or a disorder comes up, don't women have the right? Abortion for "convenience" is not really something I support, but it should be a right if women support it.
That's the other thing: this whole debate involves WOMEN. It does not involve men. I will never need an abortion, nor will any biological male, so we shouldn't really be deciding this issue.
We aren't deciding this issue. We are simply sharing our opinions and discussing them.
by Condunum » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:13 pm
James Deans wrote:If a deadbeat mom can abort, literally kill her children, then it should be fine for a deadbeat dad to walk out on his.
Solocon wrote:Condunum wrote:Err... The decision lies solely with the pregnant person. Not even another woman has the right to deny another woman an abortion. The debate is on whether it should be a right, gender doesn't really matter here because no one has more authority on a right because it involves their gender.
Sooo...men should be able to make decisions about topics that don't really concern them...? Sounds perfectly fair.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:18 pm
James Deans wrote:All of them aren't whores, it still doesn't make their pregnancy my problem. Why should my money go to this? Get all the abortions you want as long as you pay for it yourself.Condunum wrote:Good thing that doesn't happen, huh?
Protip, women who get abortions are not whores, and it'd be nice of you not to act like they are.
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