Communism as a philosophical disease

[United Marxist Nations]

If I'm not mistaken, communism (as in a stateless, moneyless society) can be summed up in; "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need". So regardless of how good you are in doing something, you'll only receive enough to survive, and if you're not capable of working, you'll receive enough to survive anyway. It also advocates that everyone becomes a proletarian, except this time, the proletariat own and control the means of production.

I've read the Communist Manifesto and some hundred articles about communism on the internet. Am I correct?

Not quite, what is meant by the "each according to their need" is oftentimes taken to mean that only what is needed will be produced.

[United Marxist Nations]

No, it helps us understand your ignorance, which is the topic here.

What you define is essentially the Tea Party's ideas. From that viewpoint, communism is seen as authoritarian. It isn't. You have NO understanding of what communism is. To prove it, please answer this question:

"What is the pure communist society?"

No classes, no state, no money. Basically, if put into practice now, hell.

Because it's not supposed to be put into practice now; there is a period of transition. The new order grows out of the old.

[Estado Paulista]

If I'm not mistaken, communism (as in a stateless, moneyless society) can be summed up in; "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need".... the proletariat own and control the means of production.

I've read the Communist Manifesto and some hundred articles about communism on the internet. Am I correct?

Key words in red. Also, the Manifesto only talks about Marxist communism. Most modern-day communists are not orthodox Marxists, but a Marxist knockoff or Anarchists.

Regardless, am I right or wrong? If I'm wrong, could you please explain me (and everyone else) what communism is — once and for all?

[The New Sea Territory]

No classes, no state, no money. Basically, if put into practice now, hell.

You're only half right, and of course a Falangist ( a Fascist) would say so.

[Dzietowie]

The goal of communism is to force a classless, stateless society using the state. See anything silly there? McCarthy was right by the way.

[Gigaverse]

Falangism is silly, nuff' said.

It's a cool flag!

... well, I feel your pain bro.

[Kelinfort]

No classes, no state, no money. Basically, if put into practice now, hell.

Because it's not supposed to be put into practice now; there is a period of transition. The new order grows out of the old.

It would be the ideal solution if we could somehow transition to a post scarcity economy.

[Korouse]

Key words in red. Also, the Manifesto only talks about Marxist communism. Most modern-day communists are not orthodox Marxists, but a Marxist knockoff or Anarchists.

Regardless, am I right or wrong? If I'm wrong, could you please explain me (and everyone else) what communism is — once and for all?

So there apparently is money, but there's no classes...

[The New Sea Territory]

Key words in red. Also, the Manifesto only talks about Marxist communism. Most modern-day communists are not orthodox Marxists, but a Marxist knockoff or Anarchists.

Regardless, am I right or wrong? If I'm wrong, could you please explain me (and everyone else) what communism is — once and for all?

Communism is a stateless, classless society where the workers own the means of production, the workplace is democratic and is devoid of social hierarchies.

[Vazdania]

That is correct. Its a disgusting ideology.

Libertarian monarchism is basically an oxymoron and insane.

Please, oh please, don't just say "it's disgusting" in your rebuttal.

Libertarian monarchy is by no means an oxymoron, but this isn't a thread to discuss the various forms of monarchy.

[The New Sea Territory]

The goal of Marxism is to force a classless, stateless society using the state. See anything silly there? McCarthy was right by the way.

[United Marxist Nations]

So, did the OP bail after his understanding of communism (or rather the lack thereof) proved inadequate?

[Korouse]

No classes, no state, no money. Basically, if put into practice now, hell.

You're only half right, and of course a Falangist ( a Fascist) would say so.

I'm not a fucking fascist.

[Kelinfort]

The goal of communism is to force a classless, stateless society using the state. See anything silly there? McCarthy was right by the way.

See, you're forgetting the distinguishing factors. There are many different ideologies of communism, and while some advocate a vanguard party and a strong state, just as many don't, such as Ricardo.

[Rio de Fuego]

Regardless, am I right or wrong? If I'm wrong, could you please explain me (and everyone else) what communism is — once and for all?

So there apparently is money, but there's no classes...

Depending on the system, ideally currency would be unnecessary

[Kelinfort]

Libertarian monarchism is basically an oxymoron and insane.

Please, oh please, don't just say "it's disgusting" in your rebuttal.

Libertarian monarchy is by no means an oxymoron, but this isn't a thread to discuss the various forms of monarchy.

You shot out a meaningless insult, I shoot a rebuttal to show you why it doesn't make sense.

[The New Sea Territory]

You're only half right, and of course a Falangist ( a Fascist) would say so.

I'm not a fucking fascist.

Then stop waving your Falange flag around.

[The New Sea Territory]

So, did the OP bail after his understanding of communism (or rather the lack thereof) proved inadequate?

Probably. Ignorance causes headaches at times.

[The Republic of Llamas]

You seem to have made a mistake. Communism does not state that all people are equal in that they are equally competent, able, etc.; it says that their moral worth is equal, a concept that I agree with even as a center-leftist. Some people will always be better at doing shit than others, i.e. by being stronger, or more intelligent, but that does not mean that they are worth more. If you think that's true, please, by all means, close down our mental hospitals and start giving money to smarter people while instituting a tax on those with an IQ under 100.

[Vazdania]

The goal of communism is to force a classless, stateless society using the state. See anything silly there? McCarthy was right by the way.

See, you're forgetting the distinguishing factors. There are many different ideologies of communism, and while some advocate a vanguard party and a strong state, just as many don't, such as Ricardo.

If the ideology isn't classless stateless or moneyless then it isn't communist. The means to which this end is achieved is irrelevant.

[Estado Paulista]

Communism is a stateless, classless society where the workers own the means of production, the workplace is democratic and is devoid of social hierarchies.

That's what I said in my post. In other words, I'm right, yes?

[The Rich Port]

So, did the OP bail after his understanding of communism (or rather the lack thereof) proved inadequate?

He should have; his OP was SHIET.

[Pandeeria]

I'm not a fucking fascist.

Then stop waving your Falange flag around.

A flag is irrelevant here.

[Silent Majority]

One of the tenets of communism is that all humans are equal, but that's biologically and factually incorrect.

Let me stop you right there. Egalitarianism isn't about making everyone the same, it's about leveling hierarchical distributions of power.

[United Marxist Nations]

See, you're forgetting the distinguishing factors. There are many different ideologies of communism, and while some advocate a vanguard party and a strong state, just as many don't, such as Ricardo.

If the ideology isn't classless stateless or moneyless then it isn't communist. The means to which this end is achieved is irrelevant.

The state dissolves more and more, because it stops being necessary as classes disappear.