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Germanic Imperium
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Postby Germanic Imperium » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:19 pm

All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:20 pm

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There isn't any "mainstream modern socialism." It's simply not Socialism. It doesn't have workplace democracy, it has a welfare state. A welfare state isn't socialist, it's actually quite capitalist in nature, as socialism wouldn't in theory require a welfare state.

Socialism would never need a welfare state as it has already assured everyone has a house and a living.

Rio de Fuego wrote:I was referring to Korouse in saying that

The problem is you probably think almost all libertarians are teenagers given your mindset.

No he is just actually 14 he's in my region we know each other
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:20 pm

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Socialistic Capitalism. It's called a Mixed Economy.

Real Socialism would be the Leninist/Maoist State before the dissolution into communism.

Can we stop equating Leninism to Maoism, since they are extremely different.


They are close enough to be considered similarly, as they are Vanguardist Marxist variants. Same with Titoism and Castroism.
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Postby Korouse » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:21 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I'm a man, I'm 22.

I was referring to Korouse in saying that

14? I'm not that young.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:21 pm

Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.


What country is this?
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:21 pm

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Rio de Fuego wrote:I disagree loot was divied out equally, a meritocracy perhaps but socialistic in nature

Loot was divided equally among those who had participated in battle, a common practice for all armies and crews from that point on until looting was considered evil.

Well naturally those who don't participate in Viking (A verb) aren't given loot they aren't part of the system
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:21 pm

Korouse wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:I was referring to Korouse in saying that

14? I'm not that young.

15 is it then?
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Postby Korouse » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:21 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Socialism would never need a welfare state as it has already assured everyone has a house and a living.


The problem is you probably think almost all libertarians are teenagers given your mindset.

No he is just actually 14 he's in my region we know each other

Yes, we do know eachother, but Rio has the memory of an old person, so he forgets ages a lot.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:22 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Socialism would never need a welfare state as it has already assured everyone has a house and a living.


The problem is you probably think almost all libertarians are teenagers given your mindset.

No he is just actually 14 he's in my region we know each other

I would have never known that just by seeing forum posts.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:22 pm

Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:22 pm

Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.

This isn't an in-character forum.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:22 pm

Korouse wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:No he is just actually 14 he's in my region we know each other

Yes, we do know eachother, but Rio has the memory of an old person, so he forgets ages a lot.

My family has a history of Alzheimers...
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:22 pm

Korouse wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:I was referring to Korouse in saying that

14? I'm not that young.


Back to the point, I'm calling you out for being a "libertarian"...do you believe in the state? If so, you are simply a classical liberal, nothing more. Real Right-Libertarianism is Anarcho-Capitalism. Other Libertarianism is left-wing socialism, usually anarchism or Libertarian Communism.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:22 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.


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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:23 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Can we stop equating Leninism to Maoism, since they are extremely different.


They are close enough to be considered similarly, as they are Vanguardist Marxist variants. Same with Titoism and Castroism.

Maoism is scarcely Marxism; remember, Maoism is the one that thinks the peasantry are the true working class, not the industrial proletariat.
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:23 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:No he is just actually 14 he's in my region we know each other

I would have never known that just by seeing forum posts.

I'm not blaming you
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Postby Korouse » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:23 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Korouse wrote:Yes, we do know eachother, but Rio has the memory of an old person, so he forgets ages a lot.

My family has a history of Alzheimers...

See, I know him a lot!
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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:23 pm

Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.


As soon as you said Left Wingers have no idea how politics work, I couldn't help but laugh a little. It's quite silly. What are you exactly? A conservative? A libertarian?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:24 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
They are close enough to be considered similarly, as they are Vanguardist Marxist variants. Same with Titoism and Castroism.

Maoism is scarcely Marxism; remember, Maoism is the one that thinks the peasantry are the true working class, not the industrial proletariat.


It's Agrarian Marxism, then. Which makes sense, since China wasn't industrialized when the communists rebelled.
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Postby Korouse » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:24 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Korouse wrote:14? I'm not that young.


Back to the point, I'm calling you out for being a "libertarian"...do you believe in the state? If so, you are simply a classical liberal, nothing more. Real Right-Libertarianism is Anarcho-Capitalism. Other Libertarianism is left-wing socialism, usually anarchism or Libertarian Communism.

Yep, Classical Liberal, because I'm classy.
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Postby Master Shake » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:25 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
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They were never communist....

Socialism =/= Communism


Your missing my point. Soemone said that communism makes a place a hellhole(I agree), but then someone else said that Finland,Norway and Sweeden are all famour hellholes(sarcasm)...

I made the claim that they are not Communist...

I know commies and socialist aren't the same so don't use that stupid symbol at me...

EDIT you have Alzheimers...man that sucks almost everyone above 60 in my family has that shit...
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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:26 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Maoism is scarcely Marxism; remember, Maoism is the one that thinks the peasantry are the true working class, not the industrial proletariat.


It's Agrarian Marxism, then. Which makes sense, since China wasn't industrialized when the communists rebelled.

Negating the point of communism, communism pretty much requires industrialization, it's part of the ideology
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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:26 pm

Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.

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Postby Rio de Fuego » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:27 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Germanic Imperium wrote:All Communists have no Idea how politics work, as with all left wingers, and should be put to death, And the Communists are nothing more than Corrupt Monsters that should all be slaughtered in the name of Order. Without Order and control we have People doing whatever they want, and Nothing will get done, People will be hurt, Rules are there to keep you safe, to make sure nothing goes wrong. That's how my Country thinks.


As soon as you said Left Wingers have no idea how politics work, I couldn't help but laugh a little. It's quite silly. What are you exactly? A conservative? A libertarian?

A third reich fanboy perhaps?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:27 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
It's Agrarian Marxism, then. Which makes sense, since China wasn't industrialized when the communists rebelled.

Negating the point of communism, communism pretty much requires industrialization, it's part of the ideology

The USSR never had it either as it wasn't industrialized until after the Bolshevik Revolution.
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