Communism as a philosophical disease

[Pandeeria]

Those places have enough capitalism to make Karl Marx turn in his grave like a turbine at Chernobyl.

2 things

1)- "Karl Marx turn in his grave like a turbine at Chernobyl" Is very amusing
2)- They're socialist enough to be considered as such

No they're not.

[Rio de Fuego]

Those places have enough capitalism to make Karl Marx turn in his grave like a turbine at Chernobyl.

Agreed. The Nordic Model is capitalism with socialistic elements. It is very far from socialism, with Nordic states having some of the freest trade anywhere.

Trade doesn't have to be hurt by socialism the focus of mainstream socials is achieving equality, basic human rights, serving as a transition to communism, and evening the class difference

[Korouse]

Agreed. The Nordic Model is capitalism with socialistic elements. It is very far from socialism, with Nordic states having some of the freest trade anywhere.

Indeed, especially Denmark which is freer than the US which is supposedly the posterboy of Capitalism is.

I blame the Vikings.

[The Serbian Empire]

Those places have enough capitalism to make Karl Marx turn in his grave like a turbine at Chernobyl.

2 things

1)- "Karl Marx turn in his grave like a turbine at Chernobyl" Is very amusing
2)- They're socialist enough to be considered as such

The problem is if one used that standard then the US is the USSA given the Tennessee Valley Authority is government owned.

[Rio de Fuego]

2 things

1)- "Karl Marx turn in his grave like a turbine at Chernobyl" Is very amusing
2)- They're socialist enough to be considered as such

No they're not.

Explain

[Rio de Fuego]

Indeed, especially Denmark which is freer than the US which is supposedly the posterboy of Capitalism is.

I blame the Vikings.

Viking, wealth redistribution at it's finest

[Korouse]

I blame the Vikings.

Viking, wealth redistribution at it's finest

It can be easily agreed upon that they were they best Capitalists. Raiding nations for money and resources, trading weapons, etc.

[Pandeeria]

No they're not.

Explain

They don't have work place democracy, they have strong different social classes, etc.

They have a strong welfare state, that's it. It's trade and economy are really free.

[Rio de Fuego]

Viking, wealth redistribution at it's finest

It can be easily agreed upon that they were they best Capitalists. Raiding nations for money and resources, trading weapons, etc.

I disagree loot was divied out equally, a meritocracy perhaps but socialistic in nature

[The New Sea Territory]

It still doesn't matter.

You support "freedom of expression" by waving a flag that symbolized a government vehemently against the freedom of expression.

He's a libertarian

I'm a libertarian.

[Rio de Fuego]

Explain

They don't have work place democracy, they have strong different social classes, etc.

They have a strong welfare state, that's it. It's trade and economy are really free.

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

[Rio de Fuego]

He's a libertarian

I'm a libertarian.

He's a disillusioned 14 year old libertarian

[Rio de Fuego]

They don't have work place democracy, they have strong different social classes, etc.

They have a strong welfare state, that's it. It's trade and economy are really free.

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

However I'm far from a scholar on this subject, someone such as United Marxist Nations would make a far better argument

[The New Sea Territory]

They don't have work place democracy, they have strong different social classes, etc.

They have a strong welfare state, that's it. It's trade and economy are really free.

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

Socialistic Capitalism. It's called a Mixed Economy.

Real Socialism would be the Leninist/Maoist State before the dissolution into communism.

[Belique]

In the 1950's, during the Red Scare in America, many 'specialists' branded communism as a disease. Of course, we're going to ignore what they said because it was just political propaganda. But philosophically and biologically speaking, could they be correct?

One of the tenets of communism is that all humans are equal, but that's biologically and factually incorrect. We could say otherwise: humans are inherently unequal. Some are smarter, some are richer, that's the way it is and it's always been. Since communism ignores these basic principles, I choose to brand it as "philosophical disease", a disorder of philosophical structure. After all, aren't philosophers supposed supposed to use logic and scientific facts to build their ideologies? The only way to 'cure' communism is through education of the masses. It's the only way to eradicate this illogical ideology that was responsible for the deaths of literally milions of people from earth.

Do you agree with me? Why/Why not? In your opinion, how do we cure communism?

I'm completely with you!

[Master Shake]

Both turn the nations they govern in to shit holes .

Sweden, Norway, Finland, all well known as hell holes

They were never communist....

[Rio de Fuego]

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

Socialistic Capitalism. It's called a Mixed Economy.

Real Socialism would be the Leninist/Maoist State before the dissolution into communism.

Leninism/Maosism is far from real socialism (Insofar as it's ability to create communism and equality), they focus far more on developing a strong industrial base

[Pandeeria]

They don't have work place democracy, they have strong different social classes, etc.

They have a strong welfare state, that's it. It's trade and economy are really free.

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

There isn't any "mainstream modern socialism." It's simply not Socialism. It doesn't have workplace democracy, it has a welfare state. A welfare state isn't socialist, it's actually quite capitalist in nature, as socialism wouldn't in theory require a welfare state.

[The Serbian Empire]

I'm a libertarian.

He's a disillusioned 14 year old libertarian

I'm a man, I'm 22.

[United Marxist Nations]

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

Socialistic Capitalism. It's called a Mixed Economy.

Real Socialism would be the Leninist/Maoist State before the dissolution into communism.

Can we stop equating Leninism to Maoism, since they are extremely different.

[Rio de Fuego]

Sweden, Norway, Finland, all well known as hell holes

They were never communist....

Socialism =/= Communism

[Rio de Fuego]

He's a disillusioned 14 year old libertarian

I'm a man, I'm 22.

I was referring to Korouse in saying that

[United Marxist Nations]

Are we referring to communism or socialism here?

Both turn the nations they govern in to shit holes .

Because those countries were doing just fine and dandy before? Please, the proto-socialist administrations did very well for those countries, at least for a considerable time.

[The Serbian Empire]

Yes socialistic not communistic, like I said modern/mainstream socialism focuses on equality, and shouldn't necessarily put a damper on trade and business but should help protect the rights of workers

There isn't any "mainstream modern socialism." It's simply not Socialism. It doesn't have workplace democracy, it has a welfare state. A welfare state isn't socialist, it's actually quite capitalist in nature, as socialism wouldn't in theory require a welfare state.

Socialism would never need a welfare state as it has already assured everyone has a house and a living.

I'm a man, I'm 22.

I was referring to Korouse in saying that

The problem is you probably think almost all libertarians are teenagers given your mindset.

[Korouse]

It can be easily agreed upon that they were they best Capitalists. Raiding nations for money and resources, trading weapons, etc.

I disagree loot was divied out equally, a meritocracy perhaps but socialistic in nature

Loot was divided equally among those who had participated in battle, a common practice for all armies and crews from that point on until looting was considered evil.