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Carbon Dioxide is being Persecuted like the Jews

Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:07 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/15/carbon-dioxide-demonization-jews_n_5589098.html
"The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler," said Princeton University professor William Happer while being interviewed on "Squawk Box" on CNBC. Before host Andrew Ross Sorkin could respond in incredulity, Happer went on to say, "Carbon dioxide is actually a benefit to the world, and so were the Jews."

Happer was introduced as an expert on climate change, despite there being no proof that he is one. When ExxonMobil donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Happer's organization, the Marshall Institute, they probably didn't expect him to make such haphazard comments.

These statements were in response to Sorkin's curiosity about a quote attributed to Happer where he compared climate change to the Holocaust. In the interview, Happer was visibly unhappy with Sorkin's prodding, pointedly telling him to "shut up" in response to Sorkin saying that Happer denies the existence of global climate change.

Now Happer is absolutely correct when he says the world needs carbon dioxide. Without it, our planet would be too cold to inhabit and it would be far harder to make oxygen and make energy available for our uses. There is a sweet spot for how much carbon dioxide we want floating around, and too much can go from being an issue to being a catastrophe pretty quickly, at least according to 10,883 of 10,885 climate scientists.

Ahhh, it's good to see that our news networks have such reputable sources, isn't it?

Honestly, why do news corporations even let hacks like this guy on their shows? It's just going to discredit them. Not only is this guy blatantly incorrect (though it is true that Co2 is necessary), but his comments are probably quite offensive to anyone who went through the Holocaust, and knows that Climate Change is a serious issue. Your thoughts on this, NSG?
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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:10 pm

That made me laugh more then anything.
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Postby Lenciland » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:10 pm

Was he by any chance a Republican?
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Postby Opplandia » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:11 pm

OMG, what a dope. next time, let a parrot talk to the masses :lol2:
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:11 pm

:rofl: If he was trying to make a joke, he failed miserably. If he was serious, what an idiot.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:13 pm

I'm going for strawman. Strawman anybody strawman?

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:13 pm

I'm certain it's dihydrogen monoxide that's being persecuted, not carbon dioxide.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:15 pm

Apparently simply having a degree in physics makes you a climate change expert.
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Postby Margno » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:16 pm

Carbon Dioxide started it with its international conspiracy to ruin the world.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:16 pm

This is almost as :palm: worthy as the Congressman who called Central Americans a disease.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:18 pm

Lenciland wrote:Was he by any chance a Republican?

I don't know, though he did receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations from Exxon, so that probably explains some of the reasoning behind it. Though it did end up blowing up in their faces.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:18 pm

The comparison of environmental concerns, to the genocide of an ethnic group, is fucking sick, absurd, and utterly insulting.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:23 pm

He's comparing environmentalist concerns with too much CO2 emissions (not that CO2 exists, but a concern with too much of it) with Nazi's attempting to eradicate the jews?

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:23 pm

Lenciland wrote:Was he by any chance a Republican?

I bet $9001 he was.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:27 pm

I wonder what his opinion about reducing particulate matter pollution is. After all, particular matter in low amounts are good because they help cloud formation, while too much is clearly dangerous. Is wanting it at a sustainable level ALSO like the Holocaust?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:28 pm

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. What the hell is with all the comparisons to the holocaust. How about unless groups of people are being actively persecuted, tortured and killed we not compare things to the holocaust.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:31 pm

Actually, since "holocaust" is actually a word meaning "destruction by fire", burning coal for fuel is in fact a literal holocaust.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:33 pm

Wow, the subject came to NSG pre-Godwin'd for our convenience!

Also, What. The. Fuck?! Did the guy decide to base his statements off a round of Cards Against Humanity or something?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:34 pm

Death Metal wrote:Actually, since "holocaust" is actually a word meaning "destruction by fire", burning coal for fuel is in fact a literal holocaust.

But that's what creates CO2, so you'd think they'd be for it. You know, if they had brains and stuff.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:34 pm

Soon all of the particles will be forced to wear yellow CO2 symbols on their jackets.....

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:36 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Wow, the subject came to NSG pre-Godwin'd for our convenience!

Also, What. The. Fuck?! Did the guy decide to base his statements off a round of Cards Against Humanity or something?


So helpful, they did our work for us.

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Soon all of the particles will be forced to wear yellow CO2 symbols on their jackets.....

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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:37 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Soon all of the particles will be forced to wear yellow CO2 symbols on their jackets.....

Kohlendioxid Raus!

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Postby New Waterford » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:37 pm

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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:38 pm

Oh no it's like another Shoah! Those Nazi oxygen atoms are plotting to "gas" 6 quadrillion Carbon Dioxides! Support the state of Israhelium!
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