What are your political beliefs?

[Liberaxia]

One question: Why the fuck are there so many socialists on this website?

[Conscentia]

One question: Why the fuck are there so many socialists on this website?

My hypothesis:
Because some of the socialists have managed to convince others here to become socialists, and because the world isn't socialist - hence a lot of socialists are dissatisfied with the world and search the internet for nation simulation games because the idea of creating an ideal nation sounds fun. Google sends them to NS. (The second reason probably also explains the disproportion numbers of an-caps, fascists, etc. - people who identify with ideologies and policies that are not mainstream.)

[Kumuri]

One question: Why the fuck are there so many socialists on this website?

My hypothesis:
Because some of the socialists have managed to convince others here to become socialists, and because the world isn't socialist - hence a lot of socialists are dissatisfied with the world and search the internet for nation simulation games because the idea of creating an ideal nation sounds fun. Google sends them to NS. (The second reason probably also explains the disproportion numbers of an-caps, fascists, etc. - people who identify with ideologies and policies that are not mainstream.)

Yeah, that, and also for me I find that simulations and RP-type things help me imagine my philosophy a little more. (Not that Kumuri as represented by the game is all that accurate. The only way to change it is by issues, and those don't usually even have my proposed solution as a possible choice.)
As much as political groups may trash each other about creating "fairy tales" about their ideal world, it's not too horrible an idea to imagine how your system would actually play out.

[Ashyaria]

Anarchism is a confusing topic:

I like these ideals:
>People can associate with whoever they like and do whatever they want without any interference
>people working together in their group/tribe for the benefit of their group collectively

If you've ever played, for say, minecraft factions raiding, that's the general idea.


I guess you could call me an anarcho-survivalist of sorts

[Sol Nascente]

Commie.

[Urran]

Moderate.

Pro capitalism, pro gun, pro life, small government, no national healthcare, ect.

I used to not be, but, after mulling it over and a few things happening in my personal life, both with family and friends, and general life experience, I'm for gay rights. Unfortunately, I have a bit of a reputation as a homophobe, that needs to change.

[Fanosolia]

well, I'm big on rights, freedom, and all the jazz mostly in the liberal/libertarian camp. I would say capitalist to a point from what I understand best described as the Nordic model, or at least capitalist with a welfare state in there. I think everything takes time, so I guess that makes me progressive (apparently "ultra-progressive"), and support various forms of Egalitarianism (equality of opportunity, equality of persons' rights).

Think that's about it?

Well, we would certainly agree on a lot.

That's probably true from what I saw from the libertarian Thread, though you be truthful I'm not as knowledgeable as you seem to be on these subjects. Though I do wish to listen and possibly learn from others about these sorts of things:3

[Arglorand]

I'm an egalitarian cosmopolitan social democrat who struggles every day with his inner left-wing civic nationalist.

I envision a transition into socialism when humanity as a whole is far more advanced technologically than it is now, but I don't tend to concern myself with things that will only happen in any realistic and working manner in another two centuries at least.

[Calimera II]

I'm a neoliberal democrat.. it would seem...

I had that result 2 months ago. Now it slightly changed (really not that much) according to politicaltest.net, and I am a neoconservative.

[Magna Libero]

Anarchism and capitalism (free market more importantly).

[Lalaki]

Well, we would certainly agree on a lot.

That's probably true from what I saw from the libertarian Thread, though you be truthful I'm not as knowledgeable as you seem to be on these subjects. Though I do wish to listen and possibly learn from others about these sorts of things:3

I thank you for that compliment. Although Arkolon and Atlanticatia are probably that main drivers of that thread, the the former in favor of libertarianism and the latter in favor of social democracy. I side with the latter, but both of them are very smart debaters.

[The Abbadids]

I consider myself a far leftist, though I am not utterly convinced that a country without capitalism can succeed without returning to state capitalism and the state taking full control of all aspects of society, including voting. If a Socialist state manages to fulfill their promises, while maintaining the freedom we fought for, I would become a socialist in a heartbeat.

[Threlizdun]

Anarchism and capitalism (free market more importantly).

Anarchism is not compatible with capitalism.

I consider myself a far leftist, though I am not utterly convinced that a country without capitalism can succeed without returning to state capitalism and the state taking full control of all aspects of society, including voting. If a Socialist state manages to fulfill their promises, while maintaining the freedom we fought for, I would become a socialist in a heartbeat.

What you just described is authoritarian state capitalism, not socialism.

[Korouse]

I'm starting to lean to the centre-right.

[Korouse]

Anarchism and capitalism (free market more importantly).

Anarchism is not compatible with capitalism.

I consider myself a far leftist, though I am not utterly convinced that a country without capitalism can succeed without returning to state capitalism and the state taking full control of all aspects of society, including voting. If a Socialist state manages to fulfill their promises, while maintaining the freedom we fought for, I would become a socialist in a heartbeat.

What you just described is authoritarian state capitalism, not socialism.

Anarchism is actually compatible with Capitalism, Anarchism simply means no state.

[Threlizdun]

Anarchism is not compatible with capitalism.
What you just described is authoritarian state capitalism, not socialism.

Anarchism is actually compatible with Capitalism, Anarchism simply means no state.

No, anarchism indicates a society devoid of social hierarchies. Anarchism is a type of stateless society, but not all stateless societies are anarchies. Capitalism not only creates hierarchies, but requires the state in order to exist.

[Korouse]

Anarchism is actually compatible with Capitalism, Anarchism simply means no state.

No, anarchism indicates a society devoid of social hierarchies. Anarchism is a type of stateless society, but not all stateless societies are anarchies. Capitalism not only creates hierarchies, but requires the state in order to exist.

Communism = The Anarchism You're Talking About.

[Threlizdun]

No, anarchism indicates a society devoid of social hierarchies. Anarchism is a type of stateless society, but not all stateless societies are anarchies. Capitalism not only creates hierarchies, but requires the state in order to exist.

Communism = The Anarchism You're Talking About.

No, communism exhibits a lack of the market and currency. All anarchism is socialist, as socialism is the only economic system that ensures a classless society, but not all anarchism is communist. Both mutualism and collectivism for example are common economic systems endorsed by anarchists.

[Great Kievan Rus]

I'm part of the The Regressive Party. This page should explain

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... regressive

[Fanosolia]

That's probably true from what I saw from the libertarian Thread, though you be truthful I'm not as knowledgeable as you seem to be on these subjects. Though I do wish to listen and possibly learn from others about these sorts of things:3

I thank you for that compliment. Although Arkolon and Atlanticatia are probably that main drivers of that thread, the the former in favor of libertarianism and the latter in favor of social democracy. I side with the latter, but both of them are very smart debaters.

no prob dude.

yes they both seem very knowledgeable about the topic at hand. Wish I could be a smart debater too, but I'm just a spectator with some questions. XD

[Atlanticatia]

One question: Why the fuck are there so many socialists on this website?

I think it's because NS is a political game so it brings out the people that are very interesting politics/economics etc, which means more radical viewpoints are represented.

I mean, in real life, there aren't really a huge amount of socialists, communists, anarcho-capitalists, and fascists..

[Conscentia]

Anarchism is actually compatible with Capitalism, Anarchism simply means no state.

No, anarchism indicates a society devoid of social hierarchies. Anarchism is a type of stateless society, but not all stateless societies are anarchies. Capitalism not only creates hierarchies, but requires the state in order to exist.

No, most do use the word to refer to advocacy of a stateless society.

[Conscentia]

Communism = The Anarchism You're Talking About.

No, communism exhibits a lack of the market and currency. All anarchism is socialist, as socialism is the only economic system that ensures a classless society, but not all anarchism is communist. Both mutualism and collectivism for example are common economic systems endorsed by anarchists.

Collectivism does not refer to a specific economic system.

[Kumuri]

One question: Why the fuck are there so many socialists on this website?

I think it's because NS is a political game so it brings out the people that are very interesting politics/economics etc, which means more radical viewpoints are represented.

I mean, in real life, there aren't really a huge amount of socialists, communists, anarcho-capitalists, and fascists..

If only there were this many communists in real life!

[Persivis]

Anarchism is actually compatible with Capitalism, Anarchism simply means no state.

No, anarchism indicates a society devoid of social hierarchies. Anarchism is a type of stateless society, but not all stateless societies are anarchies. Capitalism not only creates hierarchies, but requires the state in order to exist.

What have you been smoking? The very definition of an anarchist society is a stateless one.