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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
315
34%
Eastern Orthodox
65
7%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
10
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
57
6%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
86
9%
Methodist
30
3%
Baptist
104
11%
Pentecostal
31
3%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
36
4%
Other Christian
200
21%
 
Total votes : 934

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Distruzio
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:00 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Humility is a virtue. Not a vice.

Your god should learn some then.


Is allowing Himself to be murdered not humble enough for you? Is going to Hell not humble enough for you?
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The Flood
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Postby The Flood » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:04 pm

Bari wrote:
The Flood wrote:Yes.

Was the water cold and fresh (i.e., not warm salt water)?
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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:06 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Your god should learn some then.


Is allowing Himself to be murdered not humble enough for you? Is going to Hell not humble enough for you?

Doing it quietly is. Making a big fuss over it, and rubbing it in everyone's face, is the behavior of a prima donna.
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Distruzio
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:11 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Is allowing Himself to be murdered not humble enough for you? Is going to Hell not humble enough for you?

Doing it quietly is. Making a big fuss over it, and rubbing it in everyone's face, is the behavior of a prima donna.


To be fair, He didn't make the fuss. We did.
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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:20 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Doing it quietly is. Making a big fuss over it, and rubbing it in everyone's face, is the behavior of a prima donna.


To be fair, He didn't make the fuss. We did.

"Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?"

Yeah, total drama queen.
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Distruzio
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:22 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
To be fair, He didn't make the fuss. We did.

"Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?"

Yeah, total drama queen.


Confirmation bias is confirmation bias.
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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:54 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:"Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?"

Yeah, total drama queen.


Confirmation bias is confirmation bias.

Naw, you're just not seeing the obvious.

He made a huge production of it. There as a party, several speeches, a dramatic accusation, witty banter, and, of course, the big reveal at the end. As well as, apparently, a brief zombie uprising. This is showmanship.

Especially since what he's actually doing isn't all that impressive. I mean, so he died. Great. Hardly a unique achievement. He died in a very unpleasant way, that's not all that unusual either really. And he went to Hell. Depending on who you talk to this might not be all that uncommon as well, but regardless would probably be more impressive if hadn't just left after three days, back to being Lord of All Creation. This isn't some huge sacrifice for him. Frankly what Madoka did was more impressive.
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Tarsonis Survivors
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:09 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Confirmation bias is confirmation bias.

Naw, you're just not seeing the obvious.

He made a huge production of it. There as a party, several speeches, a dramatic accusation, witty banter, and, of course, the big reveal at the end. As well as, apparently, a brief zombie uprising. This is showmanship.

Especially since what he's actually doing isn't all that impressive. I mean, so he died. Great. Hardly a unique achievement. He died in a very unpleasant way, that's not all that unusual either really. And he went to Hell. Depending on who you talk to this might not be all that uncommon as well, but regardless would probably be more impressive if hadn't just left after three days, back to being Lord of All Creation. This isn't some huge sacrifice for him. Frankly what Madoka did was more impressive.


To kneel is the province of men, not of God. Mother fucker created the universe, he is entitled to boast.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:18 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Naw, you're just not seeing the obvious.

He made a huge production of it. There as a party, several speeches, a dramatic accusation, witty banter, and, of course, the big reveal at the end. As well as, apparently, a brief zombie uprising. This is showmanship.

Especially since what he's actually doing isn't all that impressive. I mean, so he died. Great. Hardly a unique achievement. He died in a very unpleasant way, that's not all that unusual either really. And he went to Hell. Depending on who you talk to this might not be all that uncommon as well, but regardless would probably be more impressive if hadn't just left after three days, back to being Lord of All Creation. This isn't some huge sacrifice for him. Frankly what Madoka did was more impressive.


To kneel is the province of men, not of God. Mother fucker created the universe, he is entitled to boast.

And this has what to do with Jesus being a Diva? If anything you're just confirming what I said.

But no. A perfect god does not create life just to kneel to him. You're thinking of Ming the Merciless.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:19 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
To kneel is the province of men, not of God. Mother fucker created the universe, he is entitled to boast.

And this has what to do with Jesus being a Diva? If anything you're just confirming what I said.

But no. A perfect god does not create life just to kneel to him. You're thinking of Ming the Merciless.


Your opinion of perfect is utterly worthless

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:09 am

Oh God, I'm getting the urge to RP again, NaNoWriMo must be close.

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Postby Bohemia Minor » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:19 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Confirmation bias is confirmation bias.

Naw, you're just not seeing the obvious.

He made a huge production of it. There as a party, several speeches, a dramatic accusation, witty banter, and, of course, the big reveal at the end. As well as, apparently, a brief zombie uprising. This is showmanship.

Especially since what he's actually doing isn't all that impressive. I mean, so he died. Great. Hardly a unique achievement. He died in a very unpleasant way, that's not all that unusual either really. And he went to Hell. Depending on who you talk to this might not be all that uncommon as well, but regardless would probably be more impressive if hadn't just left after three days, back to being Lord of All Creation. This isn't some huge sacrifice for him. Frankly what Madoka did was more impressive.

I started the God thread.
This guy above me is just being boss at being better than me.
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Bari
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Postby Bari » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:39 am

The Flood wrote:
Bari wrote:Was the water cold and fresh (i.e., not warm salt water)?
Yes.

Was there ablution of the water by physical contact through either infusion (i.e., pouring it on your head) or immersion (i.e., dunking you into the water)?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:29 am

Bohemia Minor wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Naw, you're just not seeing the obvious.

He made a huge production of it. There as a party, several speeches, a dramatic accusation, witty banter, and, of course, the big reveal at the end. As well as, apparently, a brief zombie uprising. This is showmanship.

Especially since what he's actually doing isn't all that impressive. I mean, so he died. Great. Hardly a unique achievement. He died in a very unpleasant way, that's not all that unusual either really. And he went to Hell. Depending on who you talk to this might not be all that uncommon as well, but regardless would probably be more impressive if hadn't just left after three days, back to being Lord of All Creation. This isn't some huge sacrifice for him. Frankly what Madoka did was more impressive.

I started the God thread.
This guy above me is just being boss at being better than me.

Huh?

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:30 am

Bari wrote:
The Flood wrote:Yes.

Was there ablution of the water by physical contact through either infusion (i.e., pouring it on your head) or immersion (i.e., dunking you into the water)?


I was baptized in the ocean, it was pretty cool actually.

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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:34 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Bari wrote:Was there ablution of the water by physical contact through either infusion (i.e., pouring it on your head) or immersion (i.e., dunking you into the water)?


I was baptized in the ocean, it was pretty cool actually.

Went down to the river Jordan...
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:36 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Bari wrote:Was there ablution of the water by physical contact through either infusion (i.e., pouring it on your head) or immersion (i.e., dunking you into the water)?


I was baptized in the ocean, it was pretty cool actually.


Which one of the oceans were you baptized at?
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Postby Coscoba » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:47 am

Distruzio wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Everyone's talking about baptism, so I got a question:

Is it a bad thing to be unbaptized at my age? I'm 25.


No. Not "bad". It'd simply be better if you were. Then again, if you're not religious then I wouldn't worry about it.


Or just a Christian belonging to a demonination that doesn't think of baptism as a necessary passport to Heaven.

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Postby Menassa » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:02 am

Coscoba wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
No. Not "bad". It'd simply be better if you were. Then again, if you're not religious then I wouldn't worry about it.


Or just a Christian belonging to a demonination that doesn't think of baptism as a necessary passport to Heaven.

Mark would disagree with that Christian.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:31 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
I was baptized in the ocean, it was pretty cool actually.


Which one of the oceans were you baptized at?


Atlantic, coast of Florida.

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:33 am

Telling an Atheist they need to be baptizes is like telling someone they have to leave milk and cookies out for Santa. Just doesn't compute. Everyone knows Santa wants whiskey.

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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:44 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Telling an Atheist they need to be baptizes is like telling someone they have to leave milk and cookies out for Santa. Just doesn't compute. Everyone knows Santa wants whiskey.

Every time Santa gets stopped for a DUI he gives the cops what they want for Christmas.
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Postby Coscoba » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:45 am

Menassa wrote:
Coscoba wrote:
Or just a Christian belonging to a demonination that doesn't think of baptism as a necessary passport to Heaven.

Mark would disagree with that Christian.


Highly speculative interpretation.

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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:46 am

Coscoba wrote:
Menassa wrote:Mark would disagree with that Christian.


Highly speculative interpretation.

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

How so?
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:11 pm

Coscoba wrote:
Menassa wrote:Mark would disagree with that Christian.


Highly speculative interpretation.

"Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."

"He who believes and is baptized shall be saved"

"Repent and and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins"

"Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord"

Shall I go on?
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