Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[IisraelL]

What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.

Interior Minister Gilad Erdan said those involved in such an attack had to realise that there were likely to be repercussions for their families.

I don't think you fully understood what's going on.

Actually the punishment is due to the fact that those families were highly supportive of those actions and even advocated them, and considering it is an active hate-speech calling for violence and murder of Jews I actually find punishing them quite reasonable- openly calling for the murder of people should indeed be a crime- and as we know already from History- hate-speech tends to turn to hate-action at some point.

Basically, it's an action against hate-speech, and as we already know hate speech might have severe consequences on human lives.

[Alyakia]

What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.

I don't think you fully understood what's going on.

Actually the punishment is due to the fact that those families were highly supportive of those actions and even advocated them, and considering it is an active hate-speech calling for violence and murder of Jews I actually find punishing them quite reasonable- openly calling for the murder of people should indeed be a crime- and as we know already from History- hate-speech tends to turn to hate-action at some point.

Basically, it's an action against hate-speech, and as we already know hate speech might have severe consequences on human lives.

feel free to prove that every victim of israeli collective punishment was chanting DEATH TO JEWS at the time of their family member actions

now show us that blowing up peoples homes is a reasonable response to hate speech. you may compare other countries hate speech laws to do this. it is also permitted to argue that throwing peoples families in camps is a reasonable response to anti-goverment speech which as we all know all too often turns into anti-government action at some point.

[Alyakia]

and that's why the homes of the families of settlers that killed palestinians in racially motivated attacks were also demolis- wait, they weren't? hmm.

[IisraelL]

I don't think you fully understood what's going on.

Actually the punishment is due to the fact that those families were highly supportive of those actions and even advocated them, and considering it is an active hate-speech calling for violence and murder of Jews I actually find punishing them quite reasonable- openly calling for the murder of people should indeed be a crime- and as we know already from History- hate-speech tends to turn to hate-action at some point.

Basically, it's an action against hate-speech, and as we already know hate speech might have severe consequences on human lives.

feel free to prove that every victim of israeli collective punishment was chanting DEATH TO JEWS at the time of their family member actions

now show us that blowing up peoples homes is a reasonable response to hate speech. you may compare other countries hate speech laws to do this. it is also permitted to argue that throwing peoples families in camps is a reasonable response to anti-goverment speech which as we all know all too often turns into anti-government action at some point.

I don't think you fully realize we're dealing with human lives here, actions should be based on their benevolence. Those families already hold histories with terrorism- cold-blooded murder of people.
So even if that punishment seems weird in your opinion, there was a lot of consideration behind it, and if it was indeed concluded as something that might prevent future violence it is fully acceptable in my opinion.

Human life is far to important to be dismissed like that, and actions should be taken if they might prevent violence on either side.


I'm just being reasonable here, I don't want any more victims of useless and hateful acts of violence.

[Alyakia]

sometimes you just need to drag a 7 year old girl out of bed at night, destroy her house and leave her and family homeless on the streets because one of her family members did something bad (trial pending) and tell her she deserved it because she is clearly a supporter of terrorism.

and, i'm going to spoil this for you, doing this does not prevent more violence. it actually makes people really pissed off.

[IisraelL]

and that's why the homes of the families of settlers that killed palestinians in racially motivated attacks were also demolis- wait, they weren't? hmm.

I'm not sure that they aren't. In fact, I'm pretty sure more settlements are being demolished compare to the 2 houses of terrorists- and sometimes settlements are demolished even when the people living there are completely peaceful.

I don't think it's a very good comparison.

[Alyakia]

and that's why the homes of the families of settlers that killed palestinians in racially motivated attacks were also demolis- wait, they weren't? hmm.

I'm not sure that they aren't. In fact, I'm pretty sure more settlements are being demolished compare to the 2 houses of terrorists- and sometimes settlements are demolished even when the people living there are completely peaceful.

I don't think it's a very good comparison.

it's the perfect comparison, actually.

palestinian kids kidnap and murder settler kids: home demolished
settler kids kidnap and murder palestinian kids: home not demolished

and sometimes palestinian houses are demolished even though the people loving there are completely peaceful. but that's not relevant to demolishing houses because of terrorism. neither are the settlers that get their houses destroyed once in a blue moon.

[IisraelL]

sometimes you just need to drag a 7 year old girl out of bed at night, destroy her house and leave her and family homeless on the streets because one of her family members did something bad (trial pending) and tell her she deserved it because she is clearly a supporter of terrorism.

and, i'm going to spoil this for you, doing this does not prevent more violence. it actually makes people really pissed off.

Obviously you don't read anything I say and you clearly just keep chanting whatever you believe in without being openminded to the actual possibility of maybe you are actually wrong.

You look at things very plainly, instead of looking on the consequences of certain actions.

[Alyakia]

sometimes you just need to drag a 7 year old girl out of bed at night, destroy her house and leave her and family homeless on the streets because one of her family members did something bad (trial pending) and tell her she deserved it because she is clearly a supporter of terrorism.

and, i'm going to spoil this for you, doing this does not prevent more violence. it actually makes people really pissed off.

Obviously you don't read anything I say and you clearly just keep chanting whatever you believe in without being openminded to the actual possibility of maybe you are actually wrong.

You look at things very plainly, instead of looking on the consequences of certain actions.

i'm reading everything you say. it just so happens that what you are saying is quite silly.

the consequences of certain actions? you mean like demolishing homes? which israel stopped because it didn't actually work? but now they've started again for political reasons? shit that is blatantly illegal in most countries, and puts them on the same level as countries like north korea?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Obviously you don't read anything I say and you clearly just keep chanting whatever you believe in without being openminded to the actual possibility of maybe you are actually wrong.

You look at things very plainly, instead of looking on the consequences of certain actions.

i'm reading everything you say. it just so happens that what you are saying is quite silly.

the consequences of certain actions? you mean like demolishing homes? which israel stopped because it didn't actually work? but now they've started again for political reasons? shit that is blatantly illegal in most countries, and puts them on the same level as countries like north korea?

North Korea doesn't even demolish peoples home.

[IisraelL]

I'm not sure that they aren't. In fact, I'm pretty sure more settlements are being demolished compare to the 2 houses of terrorists- and sometimes settlements are demolished even when the people living there are completely peaceful.

I don't think it's a very good comparison.

it's the perfect comparison, actually.

palestinian kids kidnap and murder settler kids: home demolished
settler kids kidnap and murder palestinian kids: home not demolished

and sometimes palestinian houses are demolished even though the people loving there are completely peaceful. but that's not relevant to demolishing houses because of terrorism. neither are the settlers that get their houses destroyed once in a blue moon.

You don't understand that the punishment wasn't solely for the terrorists' actions but of their entire families- and the people who murdered the palestinian kid were punished, like they should.
And I have never, in my whole life, heard of a palestinian house demolished just like that. What you've said here is not only a very plain way to look at things like you usually do, it's all out telling a lie.

I don't know what you've heard and from whom, but Israel has a very high bar of human-rights, and it saddens me many people including you would lie and just fight, and against what? Against a country that actually, quite opposite to it's neighbours have full human rights, and is a fully functional democracy.

[IisraelL]

Obviously you don't read anything I say and you clearly just keep chanting whatever you believe in without being openminded to the actual possibility of maybe you are actually wrong.

You look at things very plainly, instead of looking on the consequences of certain actions.

i'm reading everything you say. it just so happens that what you are saying is quite silly.

the consequences of certain actions? you mean like demolishing homes? which israel stopped because it didn't actually work? but now they've started again for political reasons? shit that is blatantly illegal in most countries, and puts them on the same level as countries like north korea?

You clearly don't have any idea of what's going on in North Korea and that has proven your whole argument as irrelevant.

[Alyakia]

it's the perfect comparison, actually.

palestinian kids kidnap and murder settler kids: home demolished
settler kids kidnap and murder palestinian kids: home not demolished

and sometimes palestinian houses are demolished even though the people loving there are completely peaceful. but that's not relevant to demolishing houses because of terrorism. neither are the settlers that get their houses destroyed once in a blue moon.

You don't understand that the punishment wasn't solely for the terrorists' actions but of their entire families- and the people who murdered the palestinian kid were punished, like they should.
And I have never, in my whole life, heard of a palestinian house demolished just like that. What you've said here is not only a very plain way to look at things like you usually do, it's all out telling a lie.

I don't know what you've heard and from whom, but Israel has a very high bar of human-rights, and it saddens me many people including you would lie and just fight, and against what? Against a country that actually, quite opposite to it's neighbours have full human rights, and is a fully functional democracy.

yes. i do understand it was for their entire families. that is the problem. this is blatantly immoral and illegal. most countries have stopped this and made it illegal. the only one that really continues to do it is north korea. nazi germany and the soviet union fell apart and countries like england moved into the 21st century, leaving israel in a very small group with some very uncomfortable buddies.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.611046

here you go. notice how it is suspects. i.e. not trialled.

now look up the palestinian kids that were kidnapped and murdered in response. were the people who killed them's homes demolished? no? oh.

i'm reading everything you say. it just so happens that what you are saying is quite silly.

the consequences of certain actions? you mean like demolishing homes? which israel stopped because it didn't actually work? but now they've started again for political reasons? shit that is blatantly illegal in most countries, and puts them on the same level as countries like north korea?

You clearly don't have any idea of what's going on in North Korea and that has proven your whole argument as irrelevant.

i know exactly what is going on in north korea. they punish the entire family for the actions of one person. this is exactly what israel does and what you are defending.

[Papait]

is it normal for parts of your country to be so divided by another country it looks like an island? and for the government to refuse to recognize you as a nationality instead of as an ethnicity? and everything else i posted before and everything in that image i posted before that you completely failed to address?

Who's fault is this? Let's go back to 1948. The Israelis accepted the deal. The Arabs did not.

So when the Mormons take over your country and then propose a deal where they get half of it and you get half you would accept it right? Because you expect the Arabs to have accepted the Israeli deal, while they were the invaders offering to only take halve their land. No person in their right mind would accept that deal, without knowing how the American and Saudi dogs would support Israel and beat down on anyone who doesnt

[Papait]

DISCLAIMER INCOMING ANALOGY, NOT INTENDED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ACTUAL EVENTS

*A Robber holds gun to Murk's head*

"Give me your house, or I'll shoot."

*Murk doesn't give house, the robber shoots him, and take the house anyway*

"Clearly, this was all Murk's fault."

It was Britain's land, they could do with it what they wanted.

No Britain stole the land.
They took it from the Ottomans in a fashion that would be unheard of today. Instead of giving these lands independence they took them over themselves, just like the german colonies. The reason that the ottomans sided with Germany is because the Russians were planning to attack them, the British had actually allready attacked them in Basra and Germany was the only one who would help them.
While at first the people were glad to be rid of ottoman rule, they actually hated english and french rule more.
The french had to bomb syria a couple of times because both ethnic turks, arabs and assyrians kept rebelling, and the Mufti in Palestine tried to get rid of the British Rule with support of the people and Germany.
Britain had no right to give this land away, neither would france have.
But then Syria would still have been a better place for the Jewish state at it had a way higher Jewish Population.
There were tons of better places for it
Madagaskar, Peru, Ethiopia, The Jewish Oblast, Australia, damn they could even have given them East Prussia to punish the Germans.

Even if the lands were british, then would that give them the right to give it away to a random people.
What if they decided that the Scotts had to move away because they were gonna let the Hindi people live there?

[Papait]

It's standard Israeli policy to bulldoze the homes of alleged attackers.

and, of course, focus on alleged. sometimes this happens without trial. without them even being captured. even if they are dead. they still fuck over their families.

i honestly can't think of another country that will destroy your home if one of your family members gets accused of murder without ever even bothering to prove it and even if they did that's still ridiculously fucked up.

not to add that when Neighbouring houses are damaged or cars are destroyed, their owners better not speak up about it because then they'll be tasting the butt of the Israeli rifle

[Great Israel]

Let me make this clear. i dont care what you think. im a Kahanist, and i dont plan to find excuses for things you read on the news or history books, even if they are bad. im gonna say exactly whats in my mind and wont try to make my people "soft" compared to the "evil" enemy, cuz thats what both jews and arabs do.
lets not act like angelss and pretend we call every terrorist a terrorist. There is a war between the 2 nations. the ones who want peace are a minority, and even if they are a majority, their voice is never heard. I dont believe in "Palestinians", for me, they were always Arabs. Palestinian nationalism is an ISLAMIC excuse for the western media to be convinced the holy land of Israel is an islamic holy place.
for the last month, all we see is Arab israelis. not just Arabs, but citizens of Israel, who get paid from OUR money, murder Jews! give me one reason to keep them in my country? or alive at all? but no, my country is stupid, because it listens to you weirdos criticize Israel, so instead of treating a terrorist like a dirty rat, they give his family compensations! and because Israel is afraid to get criticized!
Israel needs to stop being afraid from US government, and stop releasing MURDERERS WHO KILL BABIES AND CIVILIANS FOR FUN from prison. If anyone says now that Israel also kills babies and civilians for fun, and i disagree because its not true, but unlike other israelis, i wont praise it, in fact i think Israel is too soft with the Arabs. the only reasons there are intifadas and Hamas rockets and all that, is because they know Israel wont retaliate like they should. take the second intifada. so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over. so what, Didnt settlers kill Palestinians? they did, but do you think Palestinians judge their own terrorists with justice? did those Israelis stab babies? no they did not' so dont even compare Muslim brutality to the fact Jews cant stand them anymore? THIS WAS NEVER A NATIONALIST CONFLICT ONLY RELIGIOUS NO ONE WILL ADMIT IT.
the "Palestinian" youth who actually believe in Palestinian nationalism is because of the brainwashing their ancestors gave them when they invented the "Palestinian" people.

[Papait]

and that's why the homes of the families of settlers that killed palestinians in racially motivated attacks were also demolis- wait, they weren't? hmm.

I'm not sure that they aren't. In fact, I'm pretty sure more settlements are being demolished compare to the 2 houses of terrorists- and sometimes settlements are demolished even when the people living there are completely peaceful.

I don't think it's a very good comparison.

Yes and for every settlement that is lawfully demolished (because it was build on the Palestinian side of the Green line, they build 5 more right next to it, and in the process ofcourse demolish some Palestinian Buildings too (because thats tradition or something, Israel likes destroying stuff), and maybe kill a few Palestinians trying to resist because off course when armed people try to chase you off their land, it is self defence to shoot them instead of leaving, because you know.
Israeli's are special right, they have the right to take and go what and where they please

[Alyakia]

so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over.

let me make this clear. emulating hitler and stalin is not ok.

[Washington Resistance Army]

so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over.

let me make this clear. emulating hitler and stalin is not ok.

Nonsense! The dirty Arabs deserve it, the Israeli's are the chosen people after all and they have a right to the land!

Where have I heard that before?

[Harkback Union]

Let me make this clear. i dont care what you think. im a Kahanist, and i dont plan to find excuses for things you read on the news or history books, even if they are bad. im gonna say exactly whats in my mind and wont try to make my people "soft" compared to the "evil" enemy, cuz thats what both jews and arabs do.
lets not act like angelss and pretend we call every terrorist a terrorist. There is a war between the 2 nations. the ones who want peace are a minority, and even if they are a majority, their voice is never heard. I dont believe in "Palestinians", for me, they were always Arabs. Palestinian nationalism is an ISLAMIC excuse for the western media to be convinced the holy land of Israel is an islamic holy place.
for the last month, all we see is Arab israelis. not just Arabs, but citizens of Israel, who get paid from OUR money, murder Jews! give me one reason to keep them in my country? or alive at all? but no, my country is stupid, because it listens to you weirdos criticize Israel, so instead of treating a terrorist like a dirty rat, they give his family compensations! and because Israel is afraid to get criticized!
Israel needs to stop being afraid from US government, and stop releasing MURDERERS WHO KILL BABIES AND CIVILIANS FOR FUN from prison. If anyone says now that Israel also kills babies and civilians for fun, and i disagree because its not true, but unlike other israelis, i wont praise it, in fact i think Israel is too soft with the Arabs. the only reasons there are intifadas and Hamas rockets and all that, is because they know Israel wont retaliate like they should. take the second intifada. so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over. so what, Didnt settlers kill Palestinians? they did, but do you think Palestinians judge their own terrorists with justice? did those Israelis stab babies? no they did not' so dont even compare Muslim brutality to the fact Jews cant stand them anymore? THIS WAS NEVER A NATIONALIST CONFLICT ONLY RELIGIOUS NO ONE WILL ADMIT IT.
the "Palestinian" youth who actually believe in Palestinian nationalism is because of the brainwashing their ancestors gave them when they invented the "Palestinian" people.

Err... so basically, you say:
I don't care about the facts, Arabs are evil murderer and so Israel has the right to starve them to death.
Great stuff.

[Papait]

it's the perfect comparison, actually.

palestinian kids kidnap and murder settler kids: home demolished
settler kids kidnap and murder palestinian kids: home not demolished

and sometimes palestinian houses are demolished even though the people loving there are completely peaceful. but that's not relevant to demolishing houses because of terrorism. neither are the settlers that get their houses destroyed once in a blue moon.

You don't understand that the punishment wasn't solely for the terrorists' actions but of their entire families- and the people who murdered the palestinian kid were punished, like they should.
And I have never, in my whole life, heard of a palestinian house demolished just like that. What you've said here is not only a very plain way to look at things like you usually do, it's all out telling a lie.

I don't know what you've heard and from whom, but Israel has a very high bar of human-rights, and it saddens me many people including you would lie and just fight, and against what? Against a country that actually, quite opposite to it's neighbours have full human rights, and is a fully functional democracy.

First: Watch the news once in a while, then you would have heard of Israel destroying houses for collective punishment.
Second: Why should a family be punished for the actions of one member?
Third: Off course stuff like that doesn't happen in Israel, no... It happens in Palestine, Israel goes across the Green Line to blow up houses. That's like Luxembourg sending their millitary to Germany to burn the car of a german citizen that was speeding, but then like 1000000000 times worse.

[Alyakia]

There can be no "Peaceable" transition of non-Jews from the land that is Israel. All non-Jews must be forceably removed or, if they resist relocation in any physical manner, killed where they stand.

I am pleased to find out that Israel has moved forward with its planned ground invasion of Gaza. It is time to burn Hamas' headquarters and any supporting infrastructure to the ground and destroy them permanently. This is truly history in the making.

I hope the Arabs in the Gaza Strip are evicted like the Germans in East Prussia.

Hamas should be really lucky that nuking Gaza means nuking Israel as well.

Or else Gaza would have nuked by Israel eons ago.

Alright, it's good that Israel is finally done with Hamas's constant usage of Palestine as a safe zone after they launch rockets into schools and hospitals. Sure there will be civillian deaths, but that's normal. Getting rid of Hamas and radical-Islamic influence around Israeli land is a good thing, even if a few hundred or thousand innocents are caught in the crossfire. The end justifies the means.

Deputy speaker of the Knesset calls for Israel to force Palestinians out of Gaza and Replace them with Israelis


...

What the hell?

that sounds like an amazing idea(literally)

there going to finally stop playing bullshit games and just do what needed to be done

all the while even offering citizenship talk about a good deal.

*long, drawn out groan*

I agree with him. Force them out or be bombed 24/7

This should serve as the casus belli for Israel invading Gaza. They've been given more than enough chances, it is time for the Palestinians to be evicted from there and the land permanently annexed to the Jewish state.

so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over.

[Harkback Union]

Let me make this clear. i dont care what you think. im a Kahanist, and i dont plan to find excuses for things you read on the news or history books, even if they are bad. im gonna say exactly whats in my mind and wont try to make my people "soft" compared to the "evil" enemy, cuz thats what both jews and arabs do.
lets not act like angelss and pretend we call every terrorist a terrorist. There is a war between the 2 nations. the ones who want peace are a minority, and even if they are a majority, their voice is never heard. I dont believe in "Palestinians", for me, they were always Arabs. Palestinian nationalism is an ISLAMIC excuse for the western media to be convinced the holy land of Israel is an islamic holy place.
for the last month, all we see is Arab israelis. not just Arabs, but citizens of Israel, who get paid from OUR money, murder Jews! give me one reason to keep them in my country? or alive at all? but no, my country is stupid, because it listens to you weirdos criticize Israel, so instead of treating a terrorist like a dirty rat, they give his family compensations! and because Israel is afraid to get criticized!
Israel needs to stop being afraid from US government, and stop releasing MURDERERS WHO KILL BABIES AND CIVILIANS FOR FUN from prison. If anyone says now that Israel also kills babies and civilians for fun, and i disagree because its not true, but unlike other israelis, i wont praise it, in fact i think Israel is too soft with the Arabs. the only reasons there are intifadas and Hamas rockets and all that, is because they know Israel wont retaliate like they should. take the second intifada. so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over. so what, Didnt settlers kill Palestinians? they did, but do you think Palestinians judge their own terrorists with justice? did those Israelis stab babies? no they did not' so dont even compare Muslim brutality to the fact Jews cant stand them anymore? THIS WAS NEVER A NATIONALIST CONFLICT ONLY RELIGIOUS NO ONE WILL ADMIT IT.
the "Palestinian" youth who actually believe in Palestinian nationalism is because of the brainwashing their ancestors gave them when they invented the "Palestinian" people.

Err... so basically, you say:
I don't care about the facts, Arabs are evil murderer and so Israel has the right to starve them to death.
Great stuff.

Might I add that if Israeli logic was to be applied, you would be evicted from your home for hate speech.

[Papait]

Let me make this clear. i dont care what you think. im a Kahanist, and i dont plan to find excuses for things you read on the news or history books, even if they are bad. im gonna say exactly whats in my mind and wont try to make my people "soft" compared to the "evil" enemy, cuz thats what both jews and arabs do.
lets not act like angelss and pretend we call every terrorist a terrorist. There is a war between the 2 nations. the ones who want peace are a minority, and even if they are a majority, their voice is never heard. I dont believe in "Palestinians", for me, they were always Arabs. Palestinian nationalism is an ISLAMIC excuse for the western media to be convinced the holy land of Israel is an islamic holy place.
for the last month, all we see is Arab israelis. not just Arabs, but citizens of Israel, who get paid from OUR money, murder Jews! give me one reason to keep them in my country? or alive at all? but no, my country is stupid, because it listens to you weirdos criticize Israel, so instead of treating a terrorist like a dirty rat, they give his family compensations! and because Israel is afraid to get criticized!
Israel needs to stop being afraid from US government, and stop releasing MURDERERS WHO KILL BABIES AND CIVILIANS FOR FUN from prison. If anyone says now that Israel also kills babies and civilians for fun, and i disagree because its not true, but unlike other israelis, i wont praise it, in fact i think Israel is too soft with the Arabs. the only reasons there are intifadas and Hamas rockets and all that, is because they know Israel wont retaliate like they should. take the second intifada. so many months for women and children throwing stones? after our military beat a few arab armies in six days? thats SOFT. what i say is put a blockade in West Bank, no one is in and no one is out, no media no TV no cameras. put soldiers in there, and tell them "guys, 48 hours away from now, i wanna hear quiet, do whatever is neccessary, even kill" and in 2 days intifada is over. so what, Didnt settlers kill Palestinians? they did, but do you think Palestinians judge their own terrorists with justice? did those Israelis stab babies? no they did not' so dont even compare Muslim brutality to the fact Jews cant stand them anymore? THIS WAS NEVER A NATIONALIST CONFLICT ONLY RELIGIOUS NO ONE WILL ADMIT IT.
the "Palestinian" youth who actually believe in Palestinian nationalism is because of the brainwashing their ancestors gave them when they invented the "Palestinian" people.

So it's an Islamic excuse while a huge Portion of Palestinians is Christian or Jewish?
Did Israelis kill Babies and Kids for fun? At least once, remember the fun times in Deir Yassin.
Also, Israel doesn't compensate Terrorists, they blow up houses, like we said.
Off course last years the killing of kids isn't something Israel wanted, but they didn't care if it happened either. They bombed all locations in Gaza that could possibly pose a threat to them, not caring about civillian casulties or the fact that schools, houses and hospitals are usually used for more things than just maybe possibly unlikely but a 1%chance of storing weapons.
So if this is a religious conflict, why do Palestinian Jews not support Israel, why don't de Samaritans support Israel? Maybe it has something to do with nationality.