Israel / Gaza / Hamas Mega-Thread

[Viritica]

Anyway, apparently Turkey is planning to give the latest "aid flotilla" naval protection.

Because it wasn't satisfied with the definition of "hypocrisy" so it now wants to try "clusterfuck".

Oh, yay. Looks like Erdogan's even more insane that I thought.

[Iuronia]

Slowly grabbing land? Can you show us exactly where Israel grabbed land in Gaza, presumably for more settlements? Israel invaded Gaza to get rid of the tunnels and rockets which were built to circumvent the blockade on Gaza and supplied materials for the construction of rockets. If it was some sort of "land grab", Israel would have already done so. Settlers seem to take land from the Palestinians with IDF help with no issues in the West Bank all the time, so Israel can grab land if it wants. But. It. Hasn't.

Did he mention they could have build countless of homes, mosques, and medical centres with the money they used to build the tunnels?

[Republika Srpska Party]

Burn Israeli Flags?

[Gauthier]

Burn Israeli Flags?

Which'll just be interpreted as "You want to cremate all Jews, you neo-Nazi!"

[Herskerstad]

Anyway, apparently Turkey is planning to give the latest "aid flotilla" naval protection.

Because it wasn't satisfied with the definition of "hypocrisy" so it now wants to try "clusterfuck".

Yeah, NEVER let Turkey into the EU now, this shit just goes on and on and on.

[Benuty]

Burn Israeli Flags?

Which'll just be interpreted as "You want to cremate all Jews, you neo-Nazi!"

Not sure what Israel of today has to do with Judaism.

[Alyakia]

Well truthfully, when was the last time any filthy rich people rioted in the streets? I'm not European so I won't pretend to know what it's like, but I have heard Muslims do tend to be poorer overall, course it's that way with most immigrants. I do find it pretty stupid how some people get mad at Israel for it's settlements but not Turkey or any other nations.

Because no one cares. The Sahrawis have been living in refugee camps for 40 years. The Moroccan government built a giant sand wall that essentially separates the areas controlled by the Polisario from the areas controlled by Morocco. And if the wall protecting the Moroccans from "terrorists" wasn't enough, it's also fortified with seven million landmines. Those living within Moroccan controlled areas face discrimination from the government and from Moroccans who moved into the cities such as El Aiun. Morocco currently does not recognize Israel as a legitimate state and has criticized Israel for its settlement program.

Then you have Northern Cyprus. Turkey invades in 1974 to "protect" ethnic Turks from Greek nationalists. A brief war occurs followed by nationalists and Turkish troops committing ethnic cleansing against Greek Cypriots and massacres of Greek Cypriot civilians. The Turkish government then basically took over property left behind by the fleeing Greeks and moved settlers from mainland Turkey into said properties. Although Turkey has recognized Israel as a legitimate state, it has criticized Israel's settler program a number of times and recently announced intentions to use it's navy to protect an "aid flotilla" to help Gazans.

"Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Nikos Sampson to Eleftherotipia February 26, 1981

you're just beating the same old drum at this point but i thought you'd want to read this before you start throwing scare quotes around

let's hope nobody shows up with suspicious amounts of evidence pointing to being shot in the back of the head this time

[Alyakia]

And if they are does that somehow magically absolve Israel of all the bad things they've ever done?

No. But it doesn't automatically render Arabs innocent in mistreatment of other people.

They haven't grabbed any land so far, but announcements of settlement expansions are inevitable.

Because it's Israel, presumably.

i dunno man. some arab countries have recognized the sahrawi arab democratic republic as well. have you considered you might be using the term "arabs" far too broadly here?

[Patistan]

Eid Mubarak to the Palestinians who are always living in fear

[Rehansu Tir]

Burn Israeli Flags?

Which'll just be interpreted as "You want to cremate all Jews, you neo-Nazi!"

Hey, they can burn all the israeli flags they want. they have to buy them from an israeli company anyway. I wonder how many israeli jobs depend in the palestinian tradition of burning israeli and american flags?

[Rehansu Tir]

"Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Nikos Sampson to Eleftherotipia February 26, 1981

you're just beating the same old drum at this point but i thought you'd want to read this before you start throwing scare quotes around

let's hope nobody shows up with suspicious amounts of evidence pointing to being shot in the back of the head this time

In other words: Turkey had to invade cyprus, ethnically cleanse half the country of it's greek population, ship in turkish settlers into greek homes and onto greek land, and threaten to annex cyprus (or at least northern cyprus); because the greek cypriot "president" made a threat after the fact of the Turkish invasion and occupation.

See, it's like richard nixon said: if I do it, it's not a crime, but if you do it, it is.

[Alyakia]

"Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Nikos Sampson to Eleftherotipia February 26, 1981

you're just beating the same old drum at this point but i thought you'd want to read this before you start throwing scare quotes around

let's hope nobody shows up with suspicious amounts of evidence pointing to being shot in the back of the head this time

In other words: Turkey had to invade cyprus, ethnically cleanse half the country of it's greek population, ship in turkish settlers into greek homes and onto greek land, and threaten to annex cyprus (or at least northern cyprus); because the greek cypriot "president" made a threat after the fact of the Turkish invasion and occupation.

See, it's like richard nixon said: if I do it, it's not a crime, but if you do it, it is.

i never said they had to do that. i said that putting "protect" in brackets is bullshit.

what they did after the invasion is questionable, but the invasion itself was perfectly justified.

[Herskerstad]

Yeah, Hamas just managed to get one of their tunnels under their radar, weaponized terrorists did sneak into an Israeli village and opened fire indiscriminately.

Casualties are not known yet, with the exception of Hamas claiming ten inflicted casualties on the enemy.

[Costa Fierro]

i dunno man. some arab countries have recognized the sahrawi arab democratic republic as well.

Egypt, Jordan and Mauritania recognize Israel as an independent state. There isn't any difference between the recognition of an Arab state and the recognition of Israel.

have you considered you might be using the term "arabs" far too broadly here?

No. There are the same motivations for recognizing the SADR as they do for Palestine. Politics. It's no coincidence that Algeria recognizes it but Morocco doesn't. Because Morocco is the occupying power and Algeria is the location of the majority of the refugee camps.

[Costa Fierro]

i never said they had to do that. i said that putting "protect" in brackets is bullshit.

It is. You don't ethnically cleanse half a country to protect one ethnicity.

what they did after the invasion is questionable, but the invasion itself was perfectly justified.

Questionable? As in "I call bullshit" questionable or "Turkey did some pretty shady shit" questionable?

[Patistan]

8 children dead on Eid,Israel never does stop

[Slovenya]

Burn Israeli Flags?

Which'll just be interpreted as "You want to cremate all Jews, you neo-Nazi!"

a lot of truth in this ^

[Alyakia]

i never said they had to do that. i said that putting "protect" in brackets is bullshit.

It is. You don't ethnically cleanse half a country to protect one ethnicity.

what they did after the invasion is questionable, but the invasion itself was perfectly justified.

Questionable? As in "I call bullshit" questionable or "Turkey did some pretty shady shit" questionable?

latter

[Murkwood]

Burn Israeli Flags?

That's a despicable action of anti-Zionism and Antisemitic. Very few Israeli flag burners aren't Antisemitic.

Plus, you shouldn't burn any flags. That's very crude.

[Saiwania]

Anyway, apparently Turkey is planning to give the latest "aid flotilla" naval protection.

I say let there be a naval battle. The Israeli navy will intercept it and if Turkey doesn't back off and they dare to fire on the Israelis, the flotilla shall be sunk along with its escorts.

[Aushanit]

Both governing entities on ether side suck cock. Hamas imbedded itself in civilian areas and only gives enough of a shit to sometimes think twice so they can look good for the camera. I feel sorry for the civilians on both sides who really don't want this shit going on.

[Genivaria]

Burn Israeli Flags?

That's a despicable action of anti-Zionism and Antisemitic. Very few Israeli flag burners aren't Antisemitic.

Plus, you shouldn't burn any flags. That's very crude.

I can think of an exception.

[Alyakia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANqcKIrbV0
http://i.imgur.com/6q5P0Jp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PSndHhc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rCZTvcg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MuRb4Vc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZohAxS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IXkhp5f.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eoTbqQA.png
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http://www.sott.net/image/s9/194933/lar ... issile.jpg

has it ever occurred to you guys that much like the posters in this thread just go "human shield!" for literally every death even if they can't prove half of them israel might have become a bit lax in their aiming and going "hamas! also we told them to fuck off to refugee camps or something so it's not our fault anymore" afterwards?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Anyway, apparently Turkey is planning to give the latest "aid flotilla" naval protection.

I say let there be a naval battle. The Israeli navy will intercept it and if Turkey doesn't back off and they dare to fire on the Israelis, the flotilla shall be sunk along with its escorts.

Probably not the best idea given Turkey is stronger than Israel and currently lead by a crackpot.

[Alyakia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANqcKIrbV0
http://i.imgur.com/6q5P0Jp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PSndHhc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rCZTvcg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MuRb4Vc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZohAxS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IXkhp5f.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eoTbqQA.png
http://i.imgur.com/sT5FgEU.png

http://www.sott.net/image/s9/194932/ful ... unning.jpg
http://www.sott.net/image/s9/194933/lar ... issile.jpg

has it ever occurred to you guys that much like the posters in this thread just go "human shield!" for literally every death even if they can't prove half of them israel might have become a bit lax in their aiming and going "hamas! also we told them to fuck off to refugee camps or something so it's not our fault anymore" afterwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqiHchsbE0
http://neuezeitgeist.files.wordpress.co ... impact.jpg
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/stati ... 510178.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NWiXAvX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u8L01O7.jpg


posting some stuff from the other side because i don't want to be accused of being biased