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Postby West Aurelia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:23 am

Absolutely revolting: An 18-month old Palestinian infant was killed in an arson attack by right-wing Jewish extremists, in what Israel has called a terrorist attack. The attack targeted two homes, one of which was empty. The other home had a family in it, but they were unable to save their baby. The Israeli military has also deployed troops to the area in anticipation of unrest.

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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:59 am

West Aurelia wrote:Absolutely revolting: An 18-month old Palestinian infant was killed in an arson attack by right-wing Jewish extremists, in what Israel has called a terrorist attack. The attack targeted two homes, one of which was empty. The other home had a family in it, but they were unable to save their baby. The Israeli military has also deployed troops to the area in anticipation of unrest.


Hamas released something about it stating that the next intifada is approaching or something like that.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:01 am

Benian Republic wrote:
West Aurelia wrote:Absolutely revolting: An 18-month old Palestinian infant was killed in an arson attack by right-wing Jewish extremists, in what Israel has called a terrorist attack. The attack targeted two homes, one of which was empty. The other home had a family in it, but they were unable to save their baby. The Israeli military has also deployed troops to the area in anticipation of unrest.


Hamas released something about it stating that the next intifada is approaching or something like that.


while israel calls it a terrorist attack and deploys troops to arrest the man Hamas says it want's more bloodshed

good job guys...
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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:01 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Hamas released something about it stating that the next intifada is approaching or something like that.

Let's keep in mind if the Israelis weren't there it wouldn't have happened.
while israel calls it a terrorist attack and deploys troops to arrest the man Hamas says it want's more bloodshed

good job guys...
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:13 am

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Benian Republic wrote:Never mind it was a different nation however I basically made a might makes right argument about removing civilians who get in the way of reunification and destroying the government they have in place.


When I say might makes right i make the exception for genocide, while i agree that if you win militarily that's fine and dandy, but I don't advocate slaughtering people wholesale unless a situation calls for it.


no really tell us about when slaughtering people wholesale is called for
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:17 am

Alyakia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
When I say might makes right i make the exception for genocide, while i agree that if you win militarily that's fine and dandy, but I don't advocate slaughtering people wholesale unless a situation calls for it.


no really tell us about when slaughtering people wholesale is called for


Well if you got a building with insurgents firing out of it in a war zone you level the building with the people inside.
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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:19 am

Sorry guys I was incorrect this is what they wrote: @HamasInfoEn: Hamas calls for a day of fury in response to the relentless Zionist assaults on Jerusalem and the murder of toddler Ali in Nablus.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:23 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
no really tell us about when slaughtering people wholesale is called for


Well if you got a building with insurgents firing out of it in a war zone you level the building with the people inside.


if you were in a war scenario and every person in the enemy nation was obligated to join the military, would you be ok firing into their cities?
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:25 am

Alyakia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Well if you got a building with insurgents firing out of it in a war zone you level the building with the people inside.


if you were in a war scenario and every person in the enemy nation was obligated to join the military, would you be ok firing into their cities?


We did it in ww2 and the wars were much shorter.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:25 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
if you were in a war scenario and every person in the enemy nation was obligated to join the military, would you be ok firing into their cities?


We did it in ww2 and the wars were much shorter.


is that a yes then
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:28 am

Alyakia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
We did it in ww2 and the wars were much shorter.


is that a yes then


Do i believe in bombings cities to win wars? Hell yes.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:30 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
is that a yes then


Do i believe in bombings cities to win wars? Hell yes.


so you fundamentally have no problem with hamas rocket attacks?
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Postby Anglo-French Republic » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:46 am

Geilinor wrote:
Anglo-French Republic wrote:Let's see,In Palestine Pedophilia is a crime,and Gay marriage is allowed unlike Israel where they only Recognize(Wtf Israel you make no sense you gotta get married in Palestine just for you to recognize it?)oh and Jordan also allows being gay but no marriage while Lebanon Allows gay Marriage

Palestine and Lebanon don't allow gay marriage.

Look at countries where gay marriage is allowed,then disputed territories,Palestine will be highlited in Dark blue,that means they allow it,Same with Lebanon
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Postby Anglo-French Republic » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:48 am

Alyakia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Do i believe in bombings cities to win wars? Hell yes.


so you fundamentally have no problem with hamas rocket attacks?

So blocking all aid AND Bombing cities is allowed just because your a Majority?Conservatives make no sense
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Postby Aelex » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:00 am

Benian Republic wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:Let's keep in mind if the Israelis weren't there it wouldn't have happened.
while israel calls it a terrorist attack and deploys troops to arrest the man Hamas says it want's more bloodshed

good job guys...

Benian, I have no problem with you being pro-terrorist but if you want to modify what one sayed to fit your propaganda, at least you need to precise it. It's not the first time I told you.
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Postby Aelex » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:01 am

Alyakia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Do i believe in bombings cities to win wars? Hell yes.


so you fundamentally have no problem with hamas rocket attacks?

I do. The hamas is a terrorist group thus he don't represent a nation thus he can't be part of war thus he have no right to rocket people.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:19 am

Aelex wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
so you fundamentally have no problem with hamas rocket attacks?

I do. The hamas is a terrorist group thus he don't represent a nation thus he can't be part of war thus he have no right to rocket people.

Hamas is the representative of Gaza, like it or not. And even if they weren't, that wouldn't invalidate their actions, or at least no more than any other armed group. Haven't you heard of non-state actors?

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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:41 am

Netanyahu went to visit Palestinian children burned by Jewish villager arsonists.

What a hypocrite.

He created that situation, he and Likud. It's too late for crocodile tears.

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Postby Kubra » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:50 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Never mind it was a different nation however I basically made a might makes right argument about removing civilians who get in the way of reunification and destroying the government they have in place.


When I say might makes right i make the exception for genocide, while i agree that if you win militarily that's fine and dandy, but I don't advocate slaughtering people wholesale unless a situation calls for it.
whoa there why stop before genocide? The mongols did it on the regular, and they had one of the most secure empires in history. America slaughtered hundreds of filipinos in its pacification campaign, and that country is still in the states sphere of influences.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:25 pm

North Calaveras wrote:I don't see why israel can't keep the land, they beat the fuck out of everyone around them who tried killing them. Sore losers, but they can try again.

Because that's a rather uncivilized and primitive way of deciding territorial boundaries.

Israel doesn't even deserve the bare minimum, in my opinion, but they definitely have no right to encompass what they currently do.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:26 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Never mind it was a different nation however I basically made a might makes right argument about removing civilians who get in the way of reunification and destroying the government they have in place.


When I say might makes right i make the exception for genocide, while i agree that if you win militarily that's fine and dandy, but I don't advocate slaughtering people wholesale unless a situation calls for it.

At first I was like, "well that's really arbitrary," and then I realized you can actually condone genocide.

That's utterly horrifying.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:30 pm

North Calaveras wrote:while israel calls it a terrorist attack and deploys troops to arrest the man Hamas says it want's more bloodshed

good job guys...

They deployed no troops to arrest anyone. Where the fuck did you get that?

They deployed troops to suppress anticipated Palestinian unrest.
North Calaveras wrote:Do i believe in bombings cities to win wars? Hell yes.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:45 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:I don't see why israel can't keep the land, they beat the fuck out of everyone around them who tried killing them. Sore losers, but they can try again.

Because that's a rather uncivilized and primitive way of deciding territorial boundaries.

Israel doesn't even deserve the bare minimum, in my opinion, but they definitely have no right to encompass what they currently do.

Many other countries in existence today got their boundaries through war. Germany, the US, Russia and Italy, for example.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:47 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Because that's a rather uncivilized and primitive way of deciding territorial boundaries.

Israel doesn't even deserve the bare minimum, in my opinion, but they definitely have no right to encompass what they currently do.

Many other countries in existence today got their boundaries through war. Germany, the US, Russia and Italy, for example.


and? are you saying that what the US, russia, germany and italy did was good? that it's totally a thing we should be continuing to do in the 21 century?
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