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Postby Alyakia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:12 pm

Murkwood wrote:http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/68-percent-of-Israeli-Arabs-oppose-recent-wave-of-terrorism-poll-finds-382755

77% [of Israeli Arabs] prefer to live under Israeli rule rather than Palestinian, according to a recent poll by the Statnet research institute.


Mmmmh, you can just smell the Aperthied.


The survey found that 42% of Arabs feel that they suffer from strong racism; 44% moderate racism; and 14% light racism.

Only 9% feel the state treats them equally; 52% semi-equally; and 39% not equally at all.

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Postby Murkwood » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:14 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Palestinian rule, not Palestine.

The two are the same.

No. Palestinian Rule means Palestinian Rule over all of Israel.
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:15 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/68-percent-of-Israeli-Arabs-oppose-recent-wave-of-terrorism-poll-finds-382755



Mmmmh, you can just smell the Aperthied.


The survey found that 42% of Arabs feel that they suffer from strong racism; 44% moderate racism; and 14% light racism.

Only 9% feel the state treats them equally; 52% semi-equally; and 39% not equally at all.

thanks for the article

Every country has racism and a perceived lack of equality. That's not Aperthied.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:16 pm

Murkwood wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:The two are the same.

No. Palestinian Rule means Palestinian Rule over all of Israel.

Since Palestinian rule doesn't extend over the whole of Palestine, then the poll cannot refer to Palestinian rule in that capacity, because that's purely fictional.
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:16 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Murkwood wrote:No. Palestinian Rule means Palestinian Rule over all of Israel.

Since Palestinian rule doesn't extend over the whole of Palestine, then the poll cannot refer to Palestinian rule in that capacity, because that's purely fictional.

It's a hypothetical.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:18 pm

Murkwood wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Since Palestinian rule doesn't extend over the whole of Palestine, then the poll cannot refer to Palestinian rule in that capacity, because that's purely fictional.

It's a hypothetical.

Does it state that specifically in the poll (I just saw your excerpt, if it did, then please quote the relevant part)?
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:20 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Murkwood wrote:It's a hypothetical.

Does it state that specifically in the poll (I just saw your excerpt, if it did, then please quote the relevant part)?

It doesn't, actually, but that's what people are likely, IMO, to understand it as.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:20 pm

Murkwood wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Does it state that specifically in the poll (I just saw your excerpt, if it did, then please quote the relevant part)?

It doesn't, actually, but that's what people are likely, IMO, to understand it as.

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion.
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:22 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
The survey found that 42% of Arabs feel that they suffer from strong racism; 44% moderate racism; and 14% light racism.

Only 9% feel the state treats them equally; 52% semi-equally; and 39% not equally at all.

thanks for the article

Every country has racism and a perceived lack of equality. That's not Aperthied.


is it normal for parts of your country to be so divided by another country it looks like an island? and for the government to refuse to recognize you as a nationality instead of as an ethnicity? and everything else i posted before and everything in that image i posted before that you completely failed to address?
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:25 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Every country has racism and a perceived lack of equality. That's not Aperthied.


is it normal for parts of your country to be so divided by another country it looks like an island? and for the government to refuse to recognize you as a nationality instead of as an ethnicity? and everything else i posted before and everything in that image i posted before that you completely failed to address?

Who's fault is this? Let's go back to 1948. The Israelis accepted the deal. The Arabs did not.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby Alyakia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:26 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
is it normal for parts of your country to be so divided by another country it looks like an island? and for the government to refuse to recognize you as a nationality instead of as an ethnicity? and everything else i posted before and everything in that image i posted before that you completely failed to address?

Who's fault is this? Let's go back to 1948. The Israelis accepted the deal. The Arabs did not.


israeli needs to reject an israeli nationality and ethnically classify its citizens because of 1948? don't give me this everything israel does is ok and also the arabs fault crap.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:28 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
is it normal for parts of your country to be so divided by another country it looks like an island? and for the government to refuse to recognize you as a nationality instead of as an ethnicity? and everything else i posted before and everything in that image i posted before that you completely failed to address?

Who's fault is this? Let's go back to 1948. The Israelis accepted the deal. The Arabs did not.

DISCLAIMER INCOMING ANALOGY, NOT INTENDED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ACTUAL EVENTS

*A Robber holds gun to Murk's head*

"Give me your house, or I'll shoot."

*Murk doesn't give house, the robber shoots him, and take the house anyway*

"Clearly, this was all Murk's fault."
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:58 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Who's fault is this? Let's go back to 1948. The Israelis accepted the deal. The Arabs did not.

DISCLAIMER INCOMING ANALOGY, NOT INTENDED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ACTUAL EVENTS

*A Robber holds gun to Murk's head*

"Give me your house, or I'll shoot."

*Murk doesn't give house, the robber shoots him, and take the house anyway*

"Clearly, this was all Murk's fault."

It was Britain's land, they could do with it what they wanted.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby Alyakia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:00 pm

Murkwood wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:DISCLAIMER INCOMING ANALOGY, NOT INTENDED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ACTUAL EVENTS

*A Robber holds gun to Murk's head*

"Give me your house, or I'll shoot."

*Murk doesn't give house, the robber shoots him, and take the house anyway*

"Clearly, this was all Murk's fault."

It was Britain's land, they could do with it what they wanted.


goddamn where do i even start
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:00 pm

do you ever stop to think about the moral implications of half of what you say
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Postby The balkens » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:25 pm

Alyakia wrote:do you ever stop to think about the moral implications of half of what you say


He supports Israel, he has the moral highground. *nods*

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/68-percent-of-Israeli-Arabs-oppose-recent-wave-of-terrorism-poll-finds-382755



Mmmmh, you can just smell the Aperthied.


The survey found that 42% of Arabs feel that they suffer from strong racism; 44% moderate racism; and 14% light racism.

Only 9% feel the state treats them equally; 52% semi-equally; and 39% not equally at all.

thanks for the article

They'd still prefer Israel over Palestine, where conditions are worse.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:41 pm

What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.
Interior Minister Gilad Erdan said those involved in such an attack had to realise that there were likely to be repercussions for their families.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:43 pm

Geilinor wrote:What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.
Interior Minister Gilad Erdan said those involved in such an attack had to realise that there were likely to be repercussions for their families.


Family? You mean Terrorists. *Nods*

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:01 pm

Geilinor wrote:What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.
Interior Minister Gilad Erdan said those involved in such an attack had to realise that there were likely to be repercussions for their families.

It's standard Israeli policy to bulldoze the homes of alleged attackers.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:07 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Geilinor wrote:What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.

It's standard Israeli policy to bulldoze the homes of alleged attackers.


Collective punishment reduces crime. *nod nod*
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:03 am

Murkwood wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:DISCLAIMER INCOMING ANALOGY, NOT INTENDED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ACTUAL EVENTS

*A Robber holds gun to Murk's head*

"Give me your house, or I'll shoot."

*Murk doesn't give house, the robber shoots him, and take the house anyway*

"Clearly, this was all Murk's fault."

It was Britain's land, they could do with it what they wanted.

The Palestinians, following in America's footsteps, didn't recognize Britain's authority to do that, as it was a grievous violation of popular sovereignty.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:05 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Murkwood wrote:It was Britain's land, they could do with it what they wanted.

The Palestinians, following in America's footsteps, didn't recognize Britain's authority to do that, as it was a grievous violation of popular sovereignty.


NO ANNEXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:54 am

Geilinor wrote:What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.
Interior Minister Gilad Erdan said those involved in such an attack had to realise that there were likely to be repercussions for their families.


yes. irsael practices collective punishment. they stopped for a while but now they're officially back at it. welcome to the dark side.
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:01 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Geilinor wrote:What the hell, Israel? Israel is apparently punishing the family of the synagogue shooters.

It's standard Israeli policy to bulldoze the homes of alleged attackers.


and, of course, focus on alleged. sometimes this happens without trial. without them even being captured. even if they are dead. they still fuck over their families.

i honestly can't think of another country that will destroy your home if one of your family members gets accused of murder without ever even bothering to prove it and even if they did that's still ridiculously fucked up.
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