Should the United States Annex Mexico?

[The Fascist American Empire]

Am I the only one whoa can read the letters l-a-r-g-e-l-y together as one word?

I can read those letters too. Your #1 point is implying that most illegal immigration LARGELY end with Mexico being annexed by the US. Remember, El Salvadorans illegally immigrate into Mexico including other Central Americans nations. It's like a chain. The rest of Central America will illegally sneak into Mexico. Mexico will sneak into US. US sneaks into Canada. (I personally don't know what kind of Americans sneak into Canada but it's probably the ones that threaten to move North because of George W. Bush back in 2001-2008)

But anyways, there's always a lot of people that want to illegally immigrate into the US no matter what.

I am well aware of this. It will end MEXICAN immigration. I never said anything about El Salvador, Canada, Guatemala, Colombia, or Mars.

[Berdanvia]

That is the stupidest idea I have ever heard.

[Lamaredia]

A world government ruled by Sweden...



Hmmmmm.......

[Estado Paulista]

The thought occurs to me aren't a great percentage of displaced persons coming in from mexico actually from other countries fleeing the rather harsh policies Mexico has in place?

Yes, most of those who cross the US-Mexico border illegally aren't Mexicans. But they're not fleeing from Mexico's harsh [immigration, I assume] policies — they're barely enforced. One could easily cross the Mexico-Guatemala border for U$20 without being catched by Mexico's border police. Their fleeing from the poverty that exists in their homecountries.

[Nervium]

A world government ruled by Sweden...



Hmmmmm.......

Minus the cuisine, sure.

[CTALNH]

Why?

[Estado Paulista]

Remember, El Salvadorans illegally immigrate into Mexico including other Central Americans nations.

Actually, El Salvador is not as bad as you think it is. Hell, there are a lot of Nicaraguan illegals living and working there. Most of those who cross the border are from Nicaragua and Honduras.

[Estado Paulista]

A world government ruled by Sweden...



Hmmmmm.......

More like "eeeeeeeewwww".

[Lamaredia]

A world government ruled by Sweden...



Hmmmmm.......

Minus the cuisine, sure.

How dare you insult Swedish food!

*Throws Meatballs and Falukorv*

[The Emerald Dragon]

I can read those letters too. Your #1 point is implying that most illegal immigration LARGELY end with Mexico being annexed by the US. Remember, El Salvadorans illegally immigrate into Mexico including other Central Americans nations. It's like a chain. The rest of Central America will illegally sneak into Mexico. Mexico will sneak into US. US sneaks into Canada. (I personally don't know what kind of Americans sneak into Canada but it's probably the ones that threaten to move North because of George W. Bush back in 2001-2008)

But anyways, there's always a lot of people that want to illegally immigrate into the US no matter what.

I am well aware of this. It will end MEXICAN immigration. I never said anything about El Salvador, Canada, Guatemala, Colombia, or Mars.

By that logic, the U.S should invade, Ireland, Germany, Scotland, Sweden, Netherlands, Cuba, England.

Would you like me to go on?

[Lamaredia]

A world government ruled by Sweden...



Hmmmmm.......

More like "eeeeeeeewwww".

Why? A nation with a good economy and excellent human rights records?

I'd accept Denmark and New Zeeland as well

[The Fascist American Empire]

I am well aware of this. It will end MEXICAN immigration. I never said anything about El Salvador, Canada, Guatemala, Colombia, or Mars.

By that logic, the U.S should invade, Ireland, Germany, Scotland, Sweden, Netherlands, Cuba, England.

Would you like me to go on?

I'm sorry, just how many come from there every year (except Cuba) ? Not as many as you seem to think. Now, how many come from Mexico and other Central American countries via Mexico? A hell of a lot more.

[America Libertaria]

Heeeeeeeeeell no.

[Vashta Nerada]

Also, consider the more widespread implications. This would send a message that Imperialism is alright because one of the most powerful countries in the world can do it and get away with it.
How long after that before Russia decides it wants more than Crimea?
How long after that before China wants more land, before North Korea and South Korea try to annex each other again?
What if the UK decides that, actually, they don't want to acknowledge a Scottish Independence if it succeeds and annexes Scotland, stamping out resistance?
How long before Spain decides that they can just stamp all over resistance in Catalonia?
How long before European and North American countries decide they want Empires again, and start to nabs bits of Africa and the middle east? How long before Argentina tries to seize the Falklands again?
How long before Sri Lanka erupts into Civil War?
How long before Japan decides it wants it's imperial empire again?

After all, they'll all be thinking that if America can get away with it, why can't they? And that's a dangerous message to send. It may sound extreme and unlikely, maybe it is, but you risk opening the door for it. If even one of those happens and is left untreated, then more could fully will realise it can happen and try it. Because why obey international law when other people aren't?

1. Ukraine is the ancestral homeland of the Russian people (literally, it is). If Russia wants more of Ukraine, Ukraine can't do anything about it, and honestly, I don't about an independent Ukraine. It's broke, poor, and more corrupt than Russia. It would be much better off as a part of Russia.

2. From who? Vietnam? North Korea? India? From nations with three of the largest militaries on earth? Besides, China has enough problems as it is, and it won't risk an offensive war with an untested military force that marches more than it fights. And North and South Korea won't go to war because it would destroy the South's economy, and the North would collapse. If they did go to war, most of South Korea's population would get massacred, and the North would collapse under the weight of starvation, debt, and loss of manpower. Honestly, the North's population far to indoctrinated to simply rebel.

3. Then Scotland will either fight an war of attrition that will be highly unpopular and highly expensive for England, or it will wage a judicial battle against England that will ultimately come out in Scotland's favor. If all of Britain's territories wanted to break away, England wouldn't be in much a position to stop them.

4. First, with what money? Second, how? They couldn't stop Catalonia from wanting to break away in the 1980s, and had to give them an autonomy deal to keep them with Spain. Catalonia has always been a trouble state, and Spain has never (read never) been able to truly unify all of Spain into a single unitary state. As it has been for centuries, Spain will remain a union of autonomous states under a single monarch or governing authority.

5. The European militaries are too small, underfunded, and concerned with terror threats to wage a highly unpopular neo-colonial campaign in the universal death zone we know as Africa. The nations which aren't death zones there have matured too much to be tackled. Imagine, the UK with its underfunded and undermanned military invading 120 million people strong Nigeria, with its 300,000 troops and $3.1 billion military budget. Or post-austerity Portugal trying to reclaim oil-rich Angola, with its 150,000 man-military and massive budget, an 40,000,000 population. Europe doesn't have the means to reconquer Africa, and it never will. The United States would have its hands full with an empire in the Western hemisphere however to be occupied with the Old World.

6. Sri Lanka has been through four, and the government has won each time. Plus, the Tamil Tigers, the sole force fighting the government, was stomped into the ground in 2009. The Tamilese population isn't a threat anymore. You can consider them "pacified."

7. The Japanese don't care much for the empire, and already dislike their military as it is. Their imperial ambitions are gone. And the nationalist party there is also unpopular. The Japanese just don't care anymore (they don't care about sex too, so you can see the problem). So if your waiting for a renewed Japanese Empire, you can keep waiting.

[The Emerald Dragon]

By that logic, the U.S should invade, Ireland, Germany, Scotland, Sweden, Netherlands, Cuba, England.

Would you like me to go on?

I'm sorry, just how many come from there every year (except Cuba) ? Not as many as you seem to think. Now, how many come from Mexico and other Central American countries via Mexico? A hell of a lot more.

Nope, you're not thinking clearly.

These countries immigrated MASSIVELY about 100 or so years ago.

Should they be invaded?

[Napkiraly]

Because the OP was clearly posted by Barack Obama himself.

Not really, just i think the U.S' record over 50 years hasn't been particularly glowing in regards to invasions.

And how many of those places did the US annex?

Also, as for the OP. Lol no.

[Estado Paulista]

More like "eeeeeeeewwww".

Why? A nation with a good economy and excellent human rights records?

I'd accept Denmark and New Zeeland as well

Australia and we have a deal.

[Rebel America]

I originally thought not, but after the facts you've stated, I am thinking otherwise. As I do think the US could help Mexico by annexing them, all of NATO and the EU would be pissed at us (the US). Our reputation would drop.

Also, I think that Central American and Caribbean countries would not trust us. They'd think, "Hey, our crime is pretty bad, our economy isn't very high, and drug use is common among citizens... Who's to say that they won't attack us?" (looking at countries like El Salvador and Honduras)

[Nervium]

Minus the cuisine, sure.

How dare you insult Swedish food!

*Throws Meatballs and Falukorv*

More thinking about Surstromming really.

And Mexican Sweden would work fine too.
Or Swedish Mexico. Or Swedish American Mexican Norway.

[Lamaredia]

Why? A nation with a good economy and excellent human rights records?

I'd accept Denmark and New Zeeland as well

Australia and we have a deal.

Australia? You mean the country that is going in the wrong fucking direction when it comes to human rights with the current government?

[Lamaredia]

How dare you insult Swedish food!

*Throws Meatballs and Falukorv*

More thinking about Surstromming really.

And Mexican Sweden would work fine too.
Or Swedish Mexico. Or Swedish American Mexican Norway.

Surströmming is the bane of anyone below the age of 30, and many over the age of 30 as well. Don't fret.

Swedish Mexico America Norway Denmark etc.

EDIT: Be glad that it isn't Iceland, where they eat a shark that's been rotting under ground for a few weeks making it fucking poisonous!

[The Fascist American Empire]

I'm sorry, just how many come from there every year (except Cuba) ? Not as many as you seem to think. Now, how many come from Mexico and other Central American countries via Mexico? A hell of a lot more.

Nope, you're not thinking clearly.

These countries immigrated MASSIVELY about 100 or so years ago.

Should they be invaded?

I'm sorry, has the Time Vortex collapsed and everything that has, is, or ever will happen happening today? No? Then what the frack does a century in the past have anything to do with it?

[The Fascist American Empire]

I originally thought not, but after the facts you've stated, I am thinking otherwise. As I do think the US could help Mexico by annexing them, all of NATO and the EU would be pissed at us (the US). Our reputation would drop.

Also, I think that Central American and Caribbean countries would not trust us. They'd think, "Hey, our crime is pretty bad, our economy isn't very high, and drug use is common among citizens... Who's to say that they won't attack us?" (looking at countries like El Salvador and Honduras)

Thank you for your politeness. Also, don't we practically lead NATO, which, let's face it, has been all but obsolete since the fall of the Soviet Union? And I don't think the EU could do much about it, they do depend on us for things like gas since they won't trade with Russia anymore.

[Great Israel]

For A few reasons might prove why it is a foolish idea:
1. Ok then, Immigration wont be mexican, it will be South and Central American, what will you do? conquer it to?
2. You plan on ending Mexican immigration by accepting them into your country legally? just a thought, do you realise that it will lead to Hispanic/Latin majority in America?
3. People have already said it like 1000 times, but let me say it again, Drug Cartels..............
4. International Community will FINALLY show what they REALLY feel about the USA. condemnations, closure of Embassys, turning slowly to Russia and China's support rather than USA's. trust me, it is bad for no one else but the USA. the USA, ever since the Cold War, tries to have at least one close "Ally" in one region. SouthEast Asia, East Asia, Pacific Ocean, South America, Middle East etc. once it loses its "allies", they will be mainly isolationist. the most they can get involved at is European Politics and American (continental) politics, no more than that. the reason i say "Allies" is because i never considered US allies as true allies, maybe besides Canada. the only real Allies USA can have (not talking about the Mexican annexation shit, but currently in real life from now on) are China and Russia, because they are pretty much standing at the same place in international relations. the other "Allies" USA has are just as much as Satelite States to the USSR. a "US Ally" is somehow a puppet/client nation of US.

[Lamaredia]

I originally thought not, but after the facts you've stated, I am thinking otherwise. As I do think the US could help Mexico by annexing them, all of NATO and the EU would be pissed at us (the US). Our reputation would drop.

Also, I think that Central American and Caribbean countries would not trust us. They'd think, "Hey, our crime is pretty bad, our economy isn't very high, and drug use is common among citizens... Who's to say that they won't attack us?" (looking at countries like El Salvador and Honduras)

Thank you for your politeness. Also, don't we practically lead NATO, which, let's face it, has been all but obsolete since the fall of the Soviet Union? And I don't think the EU could do much about it, they do depend on us for things like gas since they won't trade with Russia anymore.

NATO is becoming less obsolete now that Putin is strutting around in a tutu pretending that the Russian Empire never collapsed.