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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 14, 2014 8:55 am

Olthar wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Nope.


And thus the Hair Wars began.

See people, do not worry, we shall find other mundane things to kill each other over.

That sounds like a porn spoof of Star Wars.

Wouldn't be something more like Star Whores or something?

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Wed May 14, 2014 8:55 am

I hope that the world doesn't become 90%-95% similar, not because i'm a follower of 'Separate but Equal' but because...

We shouldn't get rid of defining characteristics of our races and ethnicities, as these are the things that make us physically distinguishable from one another.

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Postby Olthar » Wed May 14, 2014 8:56 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Olthar wrote:That sounds like a porn spoof of Star Wars.

Wouldn't be something more like Star Whores or something?

That name is probably already taken, though.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed May 14, 2014 8:58 am

Olthar wrote:Huh.

Well, there it is your people completely absent of androgenic ("male pattern" i.e. visible and rougher) body hair.

I've never saw or heard of an Indigenous Brazilian guy with a beard or a mustache or armpit hair or in the trunk. Never, ever.

So you already have your ideal people alive and kinda sorta-ish well.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 14, 2014 8:58 am

Olthar wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Wouldn't be something more like Star Whores or something?

That name is probably already taken, though.

Damn, you're right. :/

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Postby Olthar » Wed May 14, 2014 9:01 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Olthar wrote:Huh.

Well, there it is your people completely absent of androgenic ("male pattern" i.e. visible and rougher) body hair.

I've never saw or heard of an Indigenous Brazilian guy with a beard or a mustache or armpit hair or in the trunk. Never, ever.

So you already have your ideal people alive and kinda sorta-ish well.

Neat.
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Postby Person012345 » Wed May 14, 2014 9:03 am

I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed May 14, 2014 9:05 am

Person012345 wrote:I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/

This will never exactly happen, for various socioeconomic and geographic reasons.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
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Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

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Postby The Jasminia Islands » Wed May 14, 2014 9:06 am

Person012345 wrote:I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/


Precisely, you lose the diversity. People are always going to find something to discriminate against others on, even if we did all look the same. But if it happens then we have to accept it because that's how nature works.
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Postby Aravea » Wed May 14, 2014 9:29 am

It wouldn't matter if we were all black or brown, we'd still find something to kill each other over.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed May 14, 2014 9:35 am

Aravea wrote:It wouldn't matter if we were all black or brown, we'd still find something to kill each other over.

Racism is more about capitalism's "normal" unfairness than it is about civil wars and genocide these days.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Aravea » Wed May 14, 2014 9:36 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Aravea wrote:It wouldn't matter if we were all black or brown, we'd still find something to kill each other over.

Racism is more about capitalism's "normal" unfairness than it is about civil wars and genocide these days.


Oh even under a different system we'd still find something to bitch at each other over(sports teams, government officials, resources)
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed May 14, 2014 9:39 am

Aravea wrote:Oh even under a different system we'd still find something to bitch at each other over(sports teams, government officials, resources)

...

The point is that people aren't born equal. People don't immediately know your sport team upon looking at you. You don't have sport team-segregated neighborhoods receiving less civil services. You don't have stereotypes about sport team fans from other continents being relevant to your daily life and how you treat or what you think of foreigners.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Aravea » Wed May 14, 2014 9:41 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Aravea wrote:Oh even under a different system we'd still find something to bitch at each other over(sports teams, government officials, resources)

...

The point is that people aren't born equal. People don't immediately know your sport team upon looking at you. You don't have sport team-segregated neighborhoods receiving less civil services. You don't have stereotypes about sport team fans from other continents being relevant to your daily life and how you treat or what you think of foreigners.


Look I'm with you. I think that racism is horrible but as long as there are differences between people there will be discrimination.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed May 14, 2014 9:42 am

Aravea wrote:Look I'm with you. I think that racism is horrible but as long as there are differences between people there will be discrimination.

Yes... I don't think miscegenation will end racism and a poof of magic either... it will just divorce us from traditional Western racialism, what isn't much.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Aravea » Wed May 14, 2014 9:43 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Aravea wrote:Look I'm with you. I think that racism is horrible but as long as there are differences between people there will be discrimination.

Yes... I don't think miscegenation will end racism and a poof of magic either... it will just divorce us from traditional Western racialism, what isn't much.


Western racialism? What about the genocides in Afirca(Rwanda, DRC, etc)?
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Postby Person012345 » Wed May 14, 2014 9:44 am

The Jasminia Islands wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/


Precisely, you lose the diversity. People are always going to find something to discriminate against others on, even if we did all look the same. But if it happens then we have to accept it because that's how nature works.

Since when has humanity just accepted nature?

Not that I think we should force variance, just saying.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed May 14, 2014 9:45 am

Aravea wrote:Western racialism? What about the genocides in Afirca(Rwanda, DRC, etc)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Hutu_and_Tutsi

It was hugely influenced by it.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed May 14, 2014 10:01 am

Person012345 wrote:I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/

Nah. If everyone looked the same, Earth would be united. Nationalism would be dead.
For so long, Mankind has been plagued by division. Division by culture, creed, skin color, religion and nationality. These very divisions have been the cause of most human conflicts. But in the age of globalism, we can finally have that chance to implement a world government where all human beings are seen as equals. Isn't that what everyone wants? World peace? I do. You should support that too. It may not end all conflicts, but the reductions of Man on Man violence will be at an all time low when the entire planet gets administered by one governing body.


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Postby Person012345 » Wed May 14, 2014 10:03 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/

Nah. If everyone looked the same, Earth would be united. Nationalism would be dead.

The Human Race would also be boring looking.

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Postby Seriong » Wed May 14, 2014 10:24 am

Valica wrote:I've read theories and stories about how, in the future, 90-95% of humans will look extremely similar.
The theory usually claims we will all have tan-ish skin and black/brown hair.
The extra 5-10% is for people passing down recessive traits like blonde hair and blue eyes as well as isolated tribes/groups.

What do you think, NSG?
Personally, I think it's a great thing.
So much hatred and violence has been caused by racism and it would basically be nonexistent if we were all similar.
I think society would advance at a greater rate if we were all unified as well.

Hopefully, at the current rate of globalization and what-not, it takes less than 300-500 years to happen.

http://livescience.com/34228-will-human ... lians.html

You're incredibly naive if you think racism, or bigotry will fade with the loss of race. Besides, it's not a good thing, nor a bad thing, it's simply a thing, to apply morality to it "Because it fulfills my diversity requirements!" or "Because it'll mean the destruction of the white race" is simply silly.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 14, 2014 10:44 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
Person012345 wrote:I'm against the world becoming 90% the same-looking. Isn't variance what makes life interesting? :/

Nah. If everyone looked the same, Earth would be united. Nationalism would be dead.

Just like how there was no nationalism in Europe during the years leading up to WWI since most people were white.

No, wait...

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Postby Theranis III » Wed May 14, 2014 10:46 am

The wonderful thing about humans is that we will always find a way to divide ourselves, and find some horrid flaw in our siblings.

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