Do you consider the Confederate flag to be racist

[Pandeeria]

I think it would show that the claim that the south was (awesome because it is) friendly is not true in any kind of overall, or general way.

Which is where I came in. I'm sorry if this seems too complicated.

Let's compare information here.
Me:
I lived in the South, and saw people being friendly to each other
You:
You lived in the South, and saw people being unfriendly to each other
You have a study which shows that racism is a bigger problem in the south.

You can try to frame it however you want. Doesn't change the fact that you have nothing.

It's his word versus your word, however he has a study to back it up while you don't.

Therefore you're incorrect and in the wrong.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Of course it's a racist symbol. It was the symbol of the Southern aristocracy who chose to push for secession from this country so that they could continue to hold their fellow man in bondage.

[United Prefectures of Appia]

The Confederate flag that everyone is familiar with is actually the Tennessee Southern Army Cross but here are the other battle flags.

Incidentally, the designs changed gradually so that it was distinguishable during the heat of battle.

[Kyuji]

The Confederate flag that everyone is familiar with is actually the Tennessee Southern Army Cross but here are the other battle flags.
(Image)
Incidentally, the designs changed gradually so that it was distinguishable during the heat of battle.

Note the cherokee and choctaw flags.

[Santa Lucania]

I don't consider it racist however it is a symbol of rebellion and Treason which is why I do not like it. However this America so wave as much as you want buddy ain't nobody going to stop you.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The Confederate flag that everyone is familiar with is actually the Tennessee Southern Army Cross but here are the other battle flags.
(Image)
Incidentally, the designs changed gradually so that it was distinguishable during the heat of battle.

Thank you for providing that information on the off chance that someone might have missed it the several other times that it was presented in this thread.

[-The West Coast-]

I don't consider it racist however it is a symbol of rebellion and Treason which is why I do not like it. However this America so wave as much as you want buddy ain't nobody going to stop you.

You're so terribly uneducated about the Confederacy, it's almost mind-blowing.

[Oakbrook and Calvarie]

I don't consider it racist however it is a symbol of rebellion and Treason which is why I do not like it. However this America so wave as much as you want buddy ain't nobody going to stop you.

You're so terribly uneducated about the Confederacy, it's almost mind-blowing.

hush slave

[Ostroeuropa]

It's a symbol. Symbols have different meanings to different people.
Racism is a valid interpretation, but it's just childish to throw a fit and say other people aren't interpreting the art the same way you are and that yours is the right one. It's also incredibly stupid.

For the record, when I see the confederate flag, I see a racist symbol.

[Marsisian]

I don't consider it racist however it is a symbol of rebellion and Treason which is why I do not like it. However this America so wave as much as you want buddy ain't nobody going to stop you.

You're so terribly uneducated about the Confederacy, it's almost mind-blowing.

Really? If he's so uneducated, what did the Union get mad about at the start of the war?

[-The West Coast-]

You're so terribly uneducated about the Confederacy, it's almost mind-blowing.

hush slave

You're dangerously close to breaking one of the forum rules.

[Nexus Corporation]

Deleted.

[-The West Coast-]

You're so terribly uneducated about the Confederacy, it's almost mind-blowing.

Really? If he's so uneducated, what did the Union get mad about at the start of the war?

The Union was angered that the Confederate states seceded. Pretty common knowledge, I'm sure a lemur in the Los Angeles Zoo knows that.

[Vettrera]

hush slave

You're dangerously close to breaking one of the forum rules.

How so? You argued that a slave is a slave regardless of what it thinks it is, because it is "legally" referred to as a slave.
So as a slave, your arguments, and anything you say doesn't matter, no matter how much you think it is.

[Kiruri]

38%? really? That number is way too high. How exactly can the flag(s) be considered racist?

[Ostroeuropa]

It's a symbol. Symbols have different meanings to different people.
Racism is a valid interpretation, but it's just childish to throw a fit and say other people aren't interpreting the art the same way you are and that yours is the right one. It's also incredibly stupid.

For the record, when I see the confederate flag, I see a racist symbol.

I also see it as symbols, but I don't see it as racist.

And that's fine. I can quite see how southern pride is also an interpretation of the symbol. It's just not how I see it. But i'm not going to go around declaring that there is only one right way to view the symbol.

[Destiny Island]

Really? If he's so uneducated, what did the Union get mad about at the start of the war?

The Union was angered that the Confederate states seceded. Pretty common knowledge, I'm sure a lemur in the Los Angeles Zoo knows that.

Well, I mean, it's a Lemur, I wouldn't expect it to know anything about US history. Lemurs aren't even native to Los Angeles.

[-The West Coast-]

You're dangerously close to breaking one of the forum rules.

How so? You argued that a slave is a slave regardless of what it thinks it is, because it is "legally" referred to as a slave.
So as a slave, your arguments, and anything you say doesn't matter, no matter how much you think it is.

You're actually not as smart as you think you are, chief. In the 19th century (the beginning half) slaves were black people from Africa and they were property. The laws of the early 19th Century dictate that slaves are not people, they are in fact property. So how the fuck do you fail to understand calling me a slave now is not correct and only serves to make you look dense.

[Nexus Corporation]

Deleted.

[-The West Coast-]

The Union was angered that the Confederate states seceded. Pretty common knowledge, I'm sure a lemur in the Los Angeles Zoo knows that.

Well, I mean, it's a Lemur, I wouldn't expect it to know anything about US history. Lemurs aren't even native to Los Angeles.

Woah there big boy! Good catch, lemurs are not in fact native to Los Angeles. That's why- now listen in right here- that's why I said the "Los Angeles Zoo" woah!!! Did you manage to catch on now?

[Destiny Island]

Well, I mean, it's a Lemur, I wouldn't expect it to know anything about US history. Lemurs aren't even native to Los Angeles.

Woah there big boy! Good catch, lemurs are not in fact native to Los Angeles. That's why- now listen in right here- that's why I said the "Los Angeles Zoo" woah!!! Did you manage to catch on now?

So what your saying is, you don't actually have anything to say about the fact that I called you out on your rather stupid hyperbole and you decided to just mock a rather small detail in my sentence. Got it. *nods*

[Vettrera]

How so? You argued that a slave is a slave regardless of what it thinks it is, because it is "legally" referred to as a slave.
So as a slave, your arguments, and anything you say doesn't matter, no matter how much you think it is.

You're actually not as smart as you think you are, chief. In the 19th century (the beginning half) slaves were black people from Africa and they were property. The laws of the early 19th Century dictate that slaves are not people, they are in fact property. So how the fuck do you fail to understand calling me a slave now is not correct and only serves to make you look dense.

I asked you how I'm breaking a rule, you answered none of that.
You're arguing that slavery is a just institution as long as it's legal, so if we assume that you're a slave, and therefore don't have any rights, because you're nothing but property, you should be okay with that. You may think that you're a normal poster here on this site, and you can scream and assert your dominance and argue all you want on here, but in actuality whatever the fuck you say doesn't matter, because you're a slave. Know your place around these parts boy, since you obviously don't have a problem with slavery.

[Vettrera]

Woah there big boy! Good catch, lemurs are not in fact native to Los Angeles. That's why- now listen in right here- that's why I said the "Los Angeles Zoo" woah!!! Did you manage to catch on now?

So what your saying is, you don't actually have anything to say about the fact that I called you out on your rather stupid hyperbole and you decided to just mock a rather small detail in my sentence. Got it. *nods*

Don't mind him, he's just a slave. simple, uneducated, property. His opinion doesn't really carry any weight on NSG.

[Wisconsin9]

I don't consider it racist however it is a symbol of rebellion and Treason which is why I do not like it. However this America so wave as much as you want buddy ain't nobody going to stop you.

You're so terribly uneducated about the Confederacy, it's almost mind-blowing.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me why it wasn't legally treason, by the way.

[-The West Coast-]

You're actually not as smart as you think you are, chief. In the 19th century (the beginning half) slaves were black people from Africa and they were property. The laws of the early 19th Century dictate that slaves are not people, they are in fact property. So how the fuck do you fail to understand calling me a slave now is not correct and only serves to make you look dense.

I asked you how I'm breaking a rule, you answered none of that.
You're arguing that slavery is a just institution as long as it's legal, so if we assume that you're a slave, and therefore don't have any rights, because you're nothing but property, you should be okay with that. You may think that you're a normal poster here on this site, and you can scream and assert your dominance and argue all you want on here, but in actuality whatever the fuck you say doesn't matter, because you're a slave. Know your place around these parts boy, since you obviously don't have a problem with slavery.

You still haven't managed to grasp ANYTHING I've ever said. Wow, this incredible.