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It are all belong to who?

Yes, NATO should be expanded to include other westernized democratic nations in asia, oceania, and south america.
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Yes, NATO should be expanded, but not into asia.
7
2%
Yes, NATO should be expanded, but not into south america.
7
2%
Yes, NATO should be expanded, but not into oceania.
0
No votes
No, NATO should not be expanded outside north america and europe.
83
28%
NATO should submit to Equestrian rule.
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16%
 
Total votes : 292

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The Sotoan Union
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:38 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Yugoslavia dismantled itself.


Ironically, it was thanks to the Serbians.

Serbia gets a crest on its flag for every socialist federation it destroys.


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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:55 am


These are valid targets, in no way did NATO "Fuck up" here.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:14 am



You're funny. Do you do comedy? Because this little bit of words is like, some of the best comedy I've ever seen.

Do you even know what a military target is? Or do you just automatically see "US troops" and scream "OMG THEY ARE LITERALLY HITLER"

Civilians die in war. Holy shit this is fucking news to me.

Never before in the entire history of warfare had any civilian ever been killed! Never before! Then the fucking US and NATO come along and start killing every single baby and civilian they can!

Thank you for clearing my eyes to the real fact that the US and NATO and evil people and are all literally Hitler and Stalin all wrapped up together.
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Postby Landofromania » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:28 am

how nice it would be if NATO fucking die

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Postby San-Silvacian » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:32 am

Landofromania wrote:how nice it would be if NATO fucking die


This guy knows.

Fuck NATO imperialist dogs! They totally are the evil guys.

I mean, Warsaw Pact for life right?
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:36 am

San-Silvacian wrote:
Landofromania wrote:how nice it would be if NATO fucking die


This guy knows.

Fuck NATO imperialist dogs! They totally are the evil guys.

I mean, Warsaw Pact for life right?

His motto: “Proletarians united against the US terror and hypocrisy”

Yep, but I prefer MEC over Warsaw Pact :P
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:50 am

In commenting on China, the new government which came into power last year is going for a smaller much more professional military. Has for Russia, the Russians still have good scientist and engineers who are busy inventing new military systems.

China I would think is more interested in being a major greater regional power then get involved militarily worldwide. Russia just seems to want to maintain its current status quo.
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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:04 am

CTALNH wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Ooo, when did you become Serbian?

Since the moment they started to help the scum that wanted to dismantle Yugoslavia.


So.. basically everyone except Serbia?!
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:56 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:What do you mean by that?

They are politically aligned with the West, what else could it mean?

I was assuming you meant the influence of governmental systems frequently associated with the West in Japan during the late 19th century and Korea from the mid-20th century.

However, by saying that they're "politically aligned" from the West, you yourself are putting them in a category which is excluded from being Western.
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Postby Divair2 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:41 pm

Landofromania wrote:how nice it would be if NATO fucking die

Not very nice at all.

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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:01 pm

Divair2 wrote:
Landofromania wrote:how nice it would be if NATO fucking die

Not very nice at all.


Incredibly silly comment especially if it comes from a Romanian as his name would imply. Ukraine's literally on your fucking border, loony.
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Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:04 pm

Arumdaum wrote:However, by saying that they're "politically aligned" from the West, you yourself are putting them in a category which is excluded from being Western.

Irrelevant, for all political purposes: Japan and South Korea are Western democracies.
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:21 pm

An alliance between the European Union, the US, Canada, the African Union, and the Union of South American Nations would be awesome.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Genivaria wrote:An alliance between the European Union, the US, Canada, the African Union, and the Union of South American Nations would be awesome.

We shall call it Freedom.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:31 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:An alliance between the European Union, the US, Canada, the African Union, and the Union of South American Nations would be awesome.

We shall call it Freedom.

Awesome, awesome freedom.

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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:An alliance between the European Union, the US, Canada, the African Union, and the Union of South American Nations would be awesome.


No South America and I'm sold. South America is the next phase of manifest destiny. Once the United States stretches from the Arctic Circle to the Straits of Magellan, we go to Mars.
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:09 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Not very nice at all.


Incredibly silly comment especially if it comes from a Romanian as his name would imply. Ukraine's literally on your fucking border, loony.


Romania has historical claims to regions today inside Ukraine. The Soviets took it from them. It was then made part of Soviet Ukraine. Soviets even took some Romanian island near the Danube which ended up in Soviet Ukraine. The Soviets also made sure to have a piece of the Danube river. Romanians not happy about all this even today. Not too long ago, the Romanians and Ukrainians went to the ICJ on some territorial waters demarcation problem.

Has for the Ukrainians, they do not trust the Romanians. This will explain it all.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... rel-ro.htm

This was Romania in 1918.
http://danasboots.files.wordpress.com/2 ... n-1918.png

German, Hungarian, Bulgarian and Soviet pressure caused them to cede territory. After WW II they got parts of it back except the Soviet and it seems the Bulgarian parts.

Romania today
http://www.hotels-europe.com/info-count ... omania.jpg

I do know the Romanian government as a plan to try lure Moldova into rejoining.
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:15 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Genivaria wrote:An alliance between the European Union, the US, Canada, the African Union, and the Union of South American Nations would be awesome.


No South America and I'm sold. South America is the next phase of manifest destiny. Once the United States stretches from the Arctic Circle to the Straits of Magellan, we go to Mars.


:o No! :clap:
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:23 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
No South America and I'm sold. South America is the next phase of manifest destiny. Once the United States stretches from the Arctic Circle to the Straits of Magellan, we go to Mars.


:o No! :clap:


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Postby Seleucas » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:30 pm

Not only should NATO not be expanded, it should, in fact, be abolished. (And all US troops should return to the US.)
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:04 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:However, by saying that they're "politically aligned" from the West, you yourself are putting them in a category which is excluded from being Western.

Irrelevant, for all political purposes: Japan and South Korea are Western democracies.

Your arguments don't make sense.

For what political purposes? For international relations because they're allied with Western nations? Such assumptions ignore the reality of the situations present not only in Northeast Asia, but in the world outside of the West as a whole.

First of all, South Korea is relatively friendly with China due to both having experienced a brutal time due to Japanese imperialism, and do significant trade with each other. China has stated it would be perfectly fine with the South taking over the North, so long as the process was not done in a violent manner.

Pakistan is an ally of the United States, and was in SEATO with the United States. Do you consider Pakistan a Western nation?

You say that Japan and South Korea are Western nations as they're allied to Western countries. However, by saying those very words you're excluding them from being Western countries, denoting them as mere associates.

You then merely repeat the answer that Japan and South Korea are merely Western countries without defining anything and repeating phrases you've been repeating throughout the thread.
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Postby United Allied Earth Federation » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:08 pm

Dejanic wrote:I think at that point a world federation is needed.

A world federation you say?
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:An alliance between the European Union, the US, Canada, the African Union, and the Union of South American Nations would be awesome.

If you're going to include nations like Angola, then why not China?

Or does the legacy and lasting influence of European imperialism make such African nations seem more Western and thus "better" to you?
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Postby Greater Beggnig » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:20 pm

What shall we call this?

EDIT:
We should call it G.U.A.R.D
Global United Alliance for Reassurance of Defence.
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