Teen girl threatens airline with terror attack

[Great Nepal]

Of course it should be taken seriously, just not seriously enough to put Dutch fourteen year old in federal prison and public lashing. As I said so many times, probation is more than enough.

Probation is way to light of a punishment .

I dont think so, this was quite obviously meant to be a joke with no malicious intent. A hundred or so hour of community service and few year ban on social media as condition of probation sounds reasonable enough, especially if its first offence.

[Great Nepal]

Probation is way to light of a punishment .

"Hmm... this Sarah character was put on probation in 2014. For terror threats"
"Well, guess we'll just have to refuse her university/career application then. You know the admissions policy."

If its anything like UK, it would be spent by the time of university applications; when it really matters.

[The United Brony Armies]

Arrest her. That should never be considered a joke to anyone and she should be given equal punishment to someone who was serious.

Maybe that would teach her a lesson.

[The United Brony Armies]

Probation is way to light of a punishment .

I dont think so, this was quite obviously meant to be a joke with no malicious intent. A hundred or so hour of community service and few year ban on social media as condition of probation sounds reasonable enough, especially if its first offence.

It should never be considered a joke. Some time in prison might teach her to not make "jokes" about bombing a plane or anything of the sort.

[Imperializt Russia]

I dont think so, this was quite obviously meant to be a joke with no malicious intent. A hundred or so hour of community service and few year ban on social media as condition of probation sounds reasonable enough, especially if its first offence.

It should never be considered a joke. Some time in prison might teach her to not make "jokes" about bombing a plane or anything of the sort.

Prison is a teensy bit unnecessary.
There exist punishments that are plenty punitive below the level of prison for a reason.

[The Emerald Dragon]

Kill her.


(I'm being sarcastic)

[The Sapientia]

I don't know why but I found the 'bye' at the end quite funny.

[Norstal]

Yes, which is what happened. The suspect was punished.

Goodness, that was quick. Just yesterday I heard she was arrested. She's been sentenced already?

I didn't say she was sentenced. I said she was punished. Punishment does not have to come from sentencing. If there's a god and he strikes you with lightning for fucking a goat, that's punishment. She was punished by having her Twitter account suspended and getting arrested. That's that.

The end of the post should make plain that the first two lines are my simplified summary of Frisivisiaing's circular argument.

This isn't the sort of argument liberals make.

"A should be punished, because what A did was wrong
What A did was wrong, because the police are investigating it"

Many conservatives wouldn't make that argument either, because they have moral courage and are not afraid of being wrong or only half-right.

But the authoritarian conservatives would. By which I mean those whose conservatism is based on unthinking obedience to authority and tradition and are literally afraid of entertaining any doubt in their own mind.

Frisivisi isn't one of the latter, but there's an authoritarian element there, illustrated by this argument that a police investigation shows moral failing on the part of the one investigated.

It baffles me how people could think he genuinely admires Joe Biden. Do these people read the forum? Or only look at the pictures?

I'm not concerned with Frisivia's political stance. He could be a Nazi for all I know. What I'm confused about is what point you're trying to make here. Are you saying that the Tweet didn't cause panic so therefore she shouldn't be punished or what?

Because the original post I'm going with:

I thought it was funny. No harm was done, it was a harmless joke.

I dunno, causing terror and panic seems like a rather un-harmless thing to do.

Is Frisivia arguing that she should be punished for causing a ruckus. This is a response to a person who claims she shouldn't get punished. We're not talking about sentencing here. Or investigations. Or anything of the sort.

[Norstal]

Shall I give you a -very- simple reason as to exactly why she should be punished, and with an actual meaningful punishment?

Failure to do so will green-light morons everywhere into copycat 'threats'. Every single one of these 'threats' has to then be investigate - in this case it was the Netherlands, thus it likely didn't strain their CTU (or whatever the Dutch call it) particularly, however if 1,000 moron teenagers do it in, say, Britain the British CTU will have to investigate each and every one of them. That's wasted resources, wasted time and, potentially, delays investigations into LEGITIMATE threats.

Additionally, had this been a slightly more intelligent prank (aka, one not so full of blatantly racist undertones) it could potentially have caused panic and lost AA trade for that day.

Copycat threats have been made despite the punishment being given out to the girl. I'm not saying there shouldn't be a punishment. I'm just saying, that was blatantly wrong. The rest though, yeah, maybe.