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Who's right in this whole debacle

The BLM "Bureau of Land Manegment" i.e. the government
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The Nevada Rancher
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Half & Half
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Neither
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Total votes : 398
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:13 pm

Roski wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:PatDollard.com had this on their home page:
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Nope, not going to take that seriously.

And the last source's photos appear to be of the same cow from several different angles. One cow is not a "mass grave".

There are more.

More of what?
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Postby Roski » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:14 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Roski wrote:There are more.

More of what?

(maybe if you read the op you would know, instead of auto disclaiming everything)
I mean really, if you aren't going to contribute, leave.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:17 pm

You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:21 pm

The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:23 pm

The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?

Yeah, this is basically a compendium of unreliable sources. If I see some mainstream sources covering this, I'll be much more inclined to believe you, OP.

Roski wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:More of what?

(maybe if you read the op you would know, instead of auto disclaiming everything)
I mean really, if you aren't going to contribute, leave.

1) You added those additional sources after my post.
2) I'm a skeptic by nature. Until I see reliable sources covering this I'm not going to take it at face value. There is not thread ownership here, you can't just demand that this thread be an echo chamber for people who agree with you.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:23 pm

United Prefectures of Appia wrote:BTW, anyone still hung up on the solar panel industry conspiracy theory? If so, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it's been debunked.


Yes, apparently even Brierbart.com is to the left of Bundy and his supporters.
Such heroic nonsense!
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Postby Lamaredia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:24 pm

I can't even express my incredulity on how you consider those sources real.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:24 pm

The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?


But hang on a second, I thought you lefties always say everything has a bias.
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Postby Roski » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:25 pm

The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?


Would you like the Bundy Ranch Facebook page itself?

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
What about this?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/blm-2-bulls-euthanized-during-cliven-bundy-cattle-roundup

Are these good enough? Can you actually contribute instead of calling BS about some websites?
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:26 pm

It's awful that this happened.



Roski wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?


Would you like the Bundy Ranch Facebook page itself?

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
What about this?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/blm-2-bulls-euthanized-during-cliven-bundy-cattle-roundup

Are these good enough? Can you actually contribute instead of calling BS about some websites?


Left-wingers tend to point out biases on sources when somebody of the right-wing variety posts it, but when a right-winger points out the biases in their articles, you always get the same response.

"But everything has a bias."
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:28 pm

Roski wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?


Would you like the Bundy Ranch Facebook page itself?

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
What about this?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/blm-2-bulls-euthanized-during-cliven-bundy-cattle-roundup

Are these good enough? Can you actually contribute instead of calling BS about some websites?

Yeah... this is biased.

Don't go to a Facebook page.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:28 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:It's awful that this happened.



Roski wrote:
Would you like the Bundy Ranch Facebook page itself?

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
What about this?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/blm-2-bulls-euthanized-during-cliven-bundy-cattle-roundup

Are these good enough? Can you actually contribute instead of calling BS about some websites?


Left-wingers tend to point out biases on sources when somebody of the right-wing variety posts it, but when a right-winger points out the biases in their articles, you always get the same response.

"But everything has a bias."

There is a difference between bias and outright lying.

And even assuming that this happened, I fail to see what is so bad about this.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:28 pm

Bundy Family "discovers" "mass grave" from "BLM"
I AM DISAPPOINTED
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:29 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:It's awful that this happened.



Roski wrote:
Would you like the Bundy Ranch Facebook page itself?

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
What about this?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/blm-2-bulls-euthanized-during-cliven-bundy-cattle-roundup

Are these good enough? Can you actually contribute instead of calling BS about some websites?


Left-wingers tend to point out biases on sources when somebody of the right-wing variety posts it, but when a right-winger points out the biases in their articles, you always get the same response.

"But everything has a bias."

I'm a left wing centrist. I like to know when my articles are biased. It's fun pointing out biased news people perceive as legit.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:29 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Roski wrote:
Would you like the Bundy Ranch Facebook page itself?

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
What about this?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/blm-2-bulls-euthanized-during-cliven-bundy-cattle-roundup

Are these good enough? Can you actually contribute instead of calling BS about some websites?

Yeah... this is biased.

Don't go to a Facebook page.

The Review Journal is fine. It's a reliable source.

According to the Review Journal, the BLM stated that it killed two bulls. Two bulls is not a "mass grave".
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:30 pm

A few dead cattle is a "mass grave"? What the hell?
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:31 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Yeah... this is biased.

Don't go to a Facebook page.

The Review Journal is fine. It's a reliable source.

According to the Review Journal, the BLM stated that it killed two bulls. Two bulls is not a "mass grave".

I meant the Facebook page that Bundy has....
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Postby Roski » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:32 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Yeah... this is biased.

Don't go to a Facebook page.

The Review Journal is fine. It's a reliable source.

According to the Review Journal, the BLM stated that it killed two bulls. Two bulls is not a "mass grave".


There’s more dead that are dead through shot or … dehydration from running in the desert,” Logue said.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:33 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:You had Natural News, Fox News, Granite Grok(a self proclaimed far-rightist website), Info Wars, and PatDollard(more far rightist bs) as sources?

Seriously?


But hang on a second, I thought you lefties always say everything has a bias.


I'm not a leftie. :eyebrow:
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Postby Benuty » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:33 pm

Geilinor wrote:A few dead cattle is a "mass grave"? What the hell?

All that methane underground is an explosion waiting to happen :P.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:34 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
But hang on a second, I thought you lefties always say everything has a bias.


I'm not a leftie. :eyebrow:


I'll take this conversation to TG.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:34 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
But hang on a second, I thought you lefties always say everything has a bias.


I'm not a leftie. :eyebrow:

You a centrie leftie or just a centrie?
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:35 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I'm not a leftie. :eyebrow:

You a centrie leftie or just a centrie?


Mostly Centrist, on economic issues, at least.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:36 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:You a centrie leftie or just a centrie?


Mostly Centrist, on economic issues, at least.

Leftie! :lol:
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:37 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Mostly Centrist, on economic issues, at least.

Leftie! :lol:


You mean commie? :p
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