Religions proselytizing is poison to society

[Ryfylke]

Regarding what? Progressivism and Christianity or Mormonism?

On life because obviously he's not a Christian or Mormon and I don't think he is an atheist. So what do you think he believes?

I'm having a hard time discerning a coherent worldview. Admittedly, I don't have a lot of experience with him (or anyone in NSG really). What do you make of it?

[Aravea]

I think his name suits him perfectly.

[Flyover]

"I think people trying to force their beliefs on others is bad. You're all bad for disagreeing with me and my obvious moral superiority."

Well according to your signature I'm all atheists like me are evil and hate religious people.

Er. No. Athiest =/= Antithiest. When someone is "A" something (Asexual, Apolitical) they lack that something, anti means to be against; and to be theist is to be religious. To lack a religion is fine in my mind, to think all religious people are evil is something entirely.

[Greed and Death]

I view religion more as an opium for the spirit. Opium can be addictive and bad but it can also be necessity. For instance if you have a severely damaged limb opium can make the pain bearable. Likewise when a parent loses a child or a person loses their spouse the opium of religion can make that loss bearable.

All proselytizing does is advertise what medicines are available for treatment of the pains of the human condition.

[Benuty]

So why do you want to be a God?

so that I can smite down all of my enemies, all of those who have taken advantage of my physical and social limitations to climb at my expense.

the world would become my canvas and I shall reshape it all in my image...

Narcissistic inferiority complex?

[Bambifan101]

so that I can smite down all of my enemies, all of those who have taken advantage of my physical and social limitations to climb at my expense.

the world would become my canvas and I shall reshape it all in my image...

Narcissistic inferiority complex?

General insanity?

[Aravea]

So Kefka explain to us all your view of the world...

[Kyuji]

Narcissistic inferiority complex?

General insanity?

He believes that humans are sacred and that his way is the right way

[Aravea]

General insanity?

He believes that humans are sacred and that his way is the right way

Really?

[Kyuji]

He believes that humans are sacred and that his way is the right way

Really?

I could link you to the cannibalism thread if you need evidence

[Aravea]

Really?

I could link you to the cannibalism thread if you need evidence

It's just he seems so out there...

[Kyuji]

I could link you to the cannibalism thread if you need evidence

It's just he seems so out there...

I know .

[The Time Alliance]

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General insanity?

He believes that humans are sacred and that his way is the right way

So in the way he says no one should follow anyone he'd be okay with everyone following him?

[Kyuji]

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He believes that humans are sacred and that his way is the right way

So in the way he says no one should follow anyone he'd be okay with everyone following him?

Yes .

[Pandeeria]

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So in the way he says no one should follow anyone he'd be okay with everyone following him?

Yes .

I take he's very hypocritical.

[Kyuji]

Yes .

I take he's very hypocritical.

Yep.
In truth he's proselytizing his belief

[Quackquackhonk]

I think that the mentality that your religion is automatically the right one and that you need to convert everyone else is just terrible.

if you believed knew the truth regarding the eternal salvation of all mankind, you would keep quiet about it? you wouldn't try to open people's eyes to something so beneficial to them?

[Herskerstad]

So you don't think your religion is right? You don't want to save people from going to hell?

Also, irony.

Thinking my religion is right is different than knowing it is. And hell is a bunch of pagan bullshit

They say hell is a place where there is no reason. And your statements/threads keeps dragging me into hell.

[Dracoria]

no because I have skill enough thus far to survive (using the legal system whenever I can, playing my cards carefully etc)...

However, it is unfair that others continue to do better than me not because they have superior intellect but because they are better at brown-nosing, backstabbing, socializing, and playing others against me.

The present world order is one of injustice. And it must be changed...

Manipulating societal forces takes skill too. It's one more way to get ahead in life, and does require some intellect to pull off. Not that I'm a fan, but those scoundrels can be damned quick minds. I'm not sure how this could be changed other than removing society entirely or keeping it strictly regimented.

And by the way, technology and science aren't necessarily the only avenues. There are other types of forces we might be able to harness too...

You could always pray to some invisible force to grant you everlasting life in a better place. I hear that's rather popular in some parts.

[The BaRen]

I don't think we can help it. Militant Religious people need to believe their almighty has the biggest dick and they are willing to kill anyone that says differently. Even two thousand years ago, when Jesus said, "Hey, maybe instead of talking about God's dick all the time, maybe we should prove the superiority of our religion's teachings by being living examples of goodness for others to emulate." Then after he died, his followers went, "See??? That proves that Jesus had the biggest dick of them all! Raaaar!"

So many thanks to George Carlin for making the initial comparison between fundamentalist doctrine and dick insecurity and I will close with one of his quotes: "The only good thing ever to come out of religion was the music."

I suspect George Carlin had a huuuuuuge dick.

I'm a sun worshiper.
But I pray to Joe Pesci.

[Vicious Debaters]

The thread has gone by thus far with no mention of Piggiwokki, the god of Mud and Coconuts. His Chosen are ashamed, and eat their yams with sorrow in their hearts.

Anyway we should let 'em preach, just for the sake of free speech. It's when they start trying people as witches or organizing violence against people they disagree with that you need to reign them in.

[Donut section]

So I'm an Athiest in that I see no evidence of a god.
I'm an anti theist in that I believe religion to be largely harmful. I only believe this, I have no evidence of it. Thus am I in no position to assert that it is harmful.

If anyone believes it is only positive I recommend they read "the tenth parallel" by Elisa Griswald.
It's an interesting look at how religion is used as an identifier for violence around the world. And it has some interesting points about the problems caused by evangelical Christians from America across the world.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

I don't think we can help it. Militant Religious people need to believe their almighty has the biggest dick and they are willing to kill anyone that says differently. Even two thousand years ago, when Jesus said, "Hey, maybe instead of talking about God's dick all the time, maybe we should prove the superiority of our religion's teachings by being living examples of goodness for others to emulate." Then after he died, his followers went, "See??? That proves that Jesus had the biggest dick of them all! Raaaar!"

So many thanks to George Carlin for making the initial comparison between fundamentalist doctrine and dick insecurity and I will close with one of his quotes: "The only good thing ever to come out of religion was the music."

I suspect George Carlin had a huuuuuuge dick.

I'm a sun worshiper.
But I pray to Joe Pesci.

Yay!

[Baltenstein]

I think that the mentality that your religion is automatically the right one and that you need to convert everyone else is just terrible. It disgusts me that Christian missionaries want to convert everyone and that Islamic nations punish people for not believing in Islam. People should start to recognize they could be wrong and it is bad to force things on people.

What does everyone think?

There is a huge difference between merely proselytizing one's belief and punish people for not following it.

Other than that, there's nothing wrong with believing that your religion is automatically the right one. People think the exact same thing about their political affiliation, taste in music, sports team etc.

[GrandKirche]

It's each religion trying to help people avoid a terrible fate. Mostly. There's the odd cult that will give you the terrible fate. In a rational society there's no reason not to allow religious freedom of expression.