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Kathleen Sebelius Resigning as Secretary of HHS

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Should Kathleen Sebelius be resigning as Secretary of HHS?

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Kathleen Sebelius Resigning as Secretary of HHS

Postby Post-Keynesian Economics » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:18 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/kathleen-sebelius-resigning-top-hhs-post-23282634

Embattled Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is resigning as the White House seeks to move past the election-year political damage inflicted by the rocky rollout of President Barack Obama's signature health care law.

Sebelius' resignation comes just over a week after sign-ups closed for the first year of insurance coverage under the so-called Obamacare law. The opening weeks of the enrollment period were marred by widespread website woes, though the administration rebounded strongly by enrolling 7.1 million people by the March 31 deadline, exceeding initial expectations. Enrollment has since risen to 7.5 million as people were given extra time to complete applications.

Even with the late surge in sign-ups, the law remains unpopular with many Americans and Republicans have made it a centerpiece of their efforts to retake the Senate in the fall.

Sebelius' resignation could also set the stage for a contentious confirmation hearing to replace her. In a sign that the White House is seeking to avoid a nomination fight, the president was tapping Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, to replace Sebelius. Burwell was unanimously confirmed by the Senate for her current post.

A White House official requested anonymity to confirm Sebelius' resignation and Burwell's nomination ahead of the formal announcement. Obama has not nominated anyone to replace Burwell as budget director.

Obama remained publicly supportive of Sebelius throughout the rough rollout, deflecting Republican calls for her resignation. But she was conspicuously not standing by his side last week when he heralded the sign-up surge during an event in the White House Rose Garden.

The official said the 65-year-old Sebelius approached Obama last month about stepping down, telling him that the sign-up deadline was a good opportunity for a transition and suggesting he would be better served by someone who was less of a political target.

A spokeswoman for Sen. Pat Roberts, a Republican from Sebelius' home state of Kansas, called the resignation "a prudent decision" given what she called the total failure of Obamacare implementation.

Sebelius dropped no hints about her resignation Thursday when she testified at a budget hearing. Instead, she received congratulations from Democratic senators on the sign-up surge.

A popular former governor of Kansas, Sebelius has been one of Obama's longest-serving Cabinet officials and his only HHS secretary. She was instrumental in shepherding the health care law through Congress in 2010 and implementing its initial components, including a popular provision that allows young people to stay on their parents' insurance plans until age 26.


What does this mean for the Affordable Care Act? Should Kathleen Sebelius have resigned? Will her already announced successor be confirmed? And if so, will she be more or less successful?
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:30 pm

This is great! She promoted sin too much.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:30 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:This is great! She promoted sin too much.

What?
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:31 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:This is great! She promoted sin too much.


What?
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:32 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:This is great! She promoted sin too much.

What?
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Postby Post-Keynesian Economics » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:32 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:This is great! She promoted sin too much.

What?
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:32 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:This is great! She promoted sin too much.

Like the two above me.

What?
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Postby Benuty » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:32 pm

Five whats for the win.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:33 pm

She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:33 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.

What?

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:33 pm

No, it's not like she was doing a bad job. She was just doing her job, simple as that.

Hopefully, this is her choice and she wasn't pressured or forced into this.
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Postby Post-Keynesian Economics » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:33 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.


It's not a mandate. It's an option.
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:34 pm

That's SOP when you fuck up really bad on a major project.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:34 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.

Birth control is neutral it deals in the affairs of prevent pregnancies [ergo stopping those damn abortions].
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:35 pm

I don't know how she stood it this long.

did they already announce a replacement?
whatever

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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:35 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.


You'll find out how important birth control is when you use your first condom. Or not and then you'll learn the lesson 9 months after you should've used that condom.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:35 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.

Riiiight.

Just like they've been neutral on abortion or civil rights or discrimination, right?
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:36 pm

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.

birth control is morally neutral.
whatever

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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:37 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.

birth control is morally neutral.


Life begins at the cumshot. Condoms are murder. Impeach Trojanman.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:37 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:She promoted birth control. The government is supposed to be neutral on morality.

birth control is morally neutral.

It is as long as they don't force it on you, right?
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Postby The Time Alliance » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:39 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:birth control is morally neutral.


Life begins at the cumshot. Condoms are murder. Impeach Trojanman.

....Wow...

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:40 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Life begins at the cumshot. Condoms are murder. Impeach Trojanman.

....Wow...

Bro, even I can read the sarcasm there. Chill.

But honestly, shouldn't we ban male masturbation, too? Since we're killing millions of potential babies a day through that. I'm in full agreement with Blazedtown. *nods*
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:41 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
Life begins at the cumshot. Condoms are murder. Impeach Trojanman.

....Wow...


Every time you ejaculate you are committing genocide. Rosy Palmer doesn't sound so rosy now does she?
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:42 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:birth control is morally neutral.

It is as long as they don't force it on you, right?

yes

but in that case its not the birth control that is the moral problem.
whatever

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:43 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:....Wow...


Every time you ejaculate you are committing genocide. Rosy Palmer doesn't sound so rosy now does she?

Amen!
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