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Is Banning Circumcision Xenophobic?

Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:50 pm

Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:53 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

What do you guys think, NATIONSTATES?


It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:53 pm

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:54 pm

Ritual Infant Circumcision is a violation of human rights just as much as involuntary female genital mutilation.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:55 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

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I don't see why those countries should try circumcision. It isn't a problem and their non-practice of it is not their fault. Banning circumcision is more than about European or non-European values. It brings up issues of parental rights, how far religious liberties should go, and bodily autonomy.
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Postby DesAnges » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:55 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

What do you guys think, NATIONSTATES?


It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.

I could sum up my thoughts more succinctly but with swearing far reaching past the PG-13. So I'll just agree with the clown to the left of me.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:56 pm

No.
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:56 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

What do you guys think, NATIONSTATES?


It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.

Probably the ridiculous who call it mutilation.

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Ritual Infant Circumcision is a violation of human rights just as much as involuntary female genital mutilation.
Human rights trump tradition.

I thought you were Islamic.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:57 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:58 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

What do you guys think, NATIONSTATES?

I don't see why those countries should try circumcision. It isn't a problem and their non-practice of it is not their fault.

They shouldn't, but they shouldn't discriminate because of it. I don't drink so I don't say every alcoholic should be arrested.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:58 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.

Probably the ridiculous who call it mutilation.

Or the ridiculous who say that they're being persecuted because of the loss of the ability to circumcise.
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Postby Ancient Magmia » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:58 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:58 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.

Probably the ridiculous who call it mutilation.

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Ritual Infant Circumcision is a violation of human rights just as much as involuntary female genital mutilation.
Human rights trump tradition.

I thought you were Islamic.

My religion does not give me a right to mutilate my son. When he becomes a man, he can choose for himself whether he wants to be circumcised or not.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:59 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I don't see why those countries should try circumcision. It isn't a problem and their non-practice of it is not their fault.

They shouldn't, but they shouldn't discriminate because of it. I don't drink so I don't say every alcoholic should be arrested.


They force unnecessary surgery on a child. Circumcision is a violation of basic human rights.
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Postby America Libertaria » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:59 pm

Obviously it's an anti-Semitic revival in Germany which is attacking Jews' rights of cutting up babies' little peepee's.

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:59 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Probably the ridiculous who call it mutilation.

Or the ridiculous who say that they're being persecuted because of the loss of the ability to circumcise.

Well we are because it's an ancient tradition that was given to us by our creator in a covenant.
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Postby Kyuji » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:59 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Is it xenophobic when countries like Germany ban circumcision?

I think it is because it spits on the values, culture and tradition of many non-European immigrants. It enforces European values on non-Europeans or Europeans who want to do it. My belief is that the problem lies in the fact that many of these countries do not understand circumcision because they never tried it.

What do you guys think, NATIONSTATES?


It's a ring of dick skin. Seriously. I don't know what's worse, referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation', or being so religiously dogmatic that the loss of the ability to snip dick skin is seen as an attack on that whole religion.

I wish we could ban drama instead.

Its the removal of a part of a CHILDS PENIS!!!
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Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:00 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:referring to a little snip of dick skin as 'mutilation'

Leaving aside the fact that which word we use is irrelevant to a ban on the actual practice, that's perfectly reasonable. If I sliced a little line down the centre of your forehead, you'd be left with a great fucking scar for the rest of your life. I wouldn't even be removing anything. Does that not qualify as mutilation?
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Postby Alcase » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:00 pm

Well banning circumcision would be, in a sense, anti-religion seeing as how Judaism requires a baby to be circumcised.
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:00 pm

America Libertaria wrote:Obviously it's an anti-Semitic revival in Germany which is attacking Jews' rights of cutting up babies' little peepee's.

No, the fourth reich is here for other reasons. And circumcision isn't cutting it up. A tiny flap of skin is removed.
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Postby Fluerian » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:01 pm

Nations really ban circumcision? I am circumcised and am surprised nations banned it.

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Postby Frazers » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:01 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Or the ridiculous who say that they're being persecuted because of the loss of the ability to circumcise.

Well we are because it's an ancient tradition that was given to us by our creator in a covenant.


If someone advised me to go around nipping off kids foreskins as an important way to get close to them I'd probably think twice about following any of their advice

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Postby Olivaero » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:01 pm

When something a relegion does falls outside of secular ethics the religious practice should take a back seat not the other way around.
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