Sexuality, Human Expression, and Personhood

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Gotta love that pedantery.

You know who would also protest? The manufacturers of alcoholic drinks, their millions of employees, their casual consumers and anybody who believes that the solution to drugs is not punishing its consumers, but rather educating them to be responsible consumers.

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

No there would be still people protesting because people enjoy alcohol and aren't about to let the few people who manage to get messed up by it ruin it for them.

[Geilinor]

Gotta love that pedantery.

You know who would also protest? The manufacturers of alcoholic drinks, their millions of employees, their casual consumers and anybody who believes that the solution to drugs is not punishing its consumers, but rather educating them to be responsible consumers.

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

Taking money away from the liquor industry and moving it to other parts of the economy does nothing.

[Pandeeria]

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

No there would be still people protesting because people enjoy alcohol and aren't about to let the few people who manage to get messed up by it ruin it for them.

No one would follow Shie's laws.

If Shie established a government, it would get over thrown relatively quickly.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Gotta love that pedantery.

You know who would also protest? The manufacturers of alcoholic drinks, their millions of employees, their casual consumers and anybody who believes that the solution to drugs is not punishing its consumers, but rather educating them to be responsible consumers.

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

Like that will stop under the table manufacturing and consumption of these drugs.

It won't.

[Shie]

But the survivors might get pissed! What should I do then?

If that don't work then use more bombs.

We can just put the criminals on law-enforced caravans where they will be washed. Bombs won't be necessary unless the criminal population is high.

[Bythibus]

Psh. I bet I could call you out based on the dimensions of your nose.

Well that just sounds vaguely antisemitic what the heck?

What you read speaks of you, not me.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

No there would be still people protesting because people enjoy alcohol and aren't about to let the few people who manage to get messed up by it ruin it for them.

No one would follow Shie's laws.

If Shie established a government, it would get over thrown relatively quickly.

I think the amount of guerrilla movements would dramatically increase during that time period.

[Shie]

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

Taking money away from the liquor industry and moving it to other parts of the economy does nothing.

There would be no liquor industry, the military industrial complex is to be the focus. Alcohol will not be produced, planes, drones, missiles, bombs, trains, roads, rehabilitation centers: that will be the economy. Once the United States got enough America could invade Mexico and move downward.

[Liriena]

Gotta love that pedantery.

You know who would also protest? The manufacturers of alcoholic drinks, their millions of employees, their casual consumers and anybody who believes that the solution to drugs is not punishing its consumers, but rather educating them to be responsible consumers.

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

And this is your brilliant plan to deal with alcoholism, rather than rehabilitation and education? Well, that's not the least bit needlessly complicated.

[Liriena]

No, it isn't. If people break the law in large numbers out of protest, it won't be properly enforceable.

Lethal force would have to be the next option, also media coverage on the subject is not allowed to be pro-protester.

So, we're talking insane totalitarian regimes without the least bit of regard for human rights? Awesome. Shall we also exterminate political, religious and sexual minorities while we are at it?

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Taking money away from the liquor industry and moving it to other parts of the economy does nothing.

There would be no liquor industry, the military industrial complex is to be the focus. Alcohol will not be produced, planes, drones, missiles, bombs, trains, roads, rehabilitation centers: that will be the economy. Once the United States got enough America could invade Mexico and move downward.

Assuming the military leadership would actually do that and that the grunts would actually listen to you and not go renegade. Which they more than likely will.

Then even if they do, millions would die in a war like that.

[Shie]

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

No there would be still people protesting because people enjoy alcohol and aren't about to let the few people who manage to get messed up by it ruin it for them.

This is where the media arm of government comes in. You thought you enjoyed alcohol until you find out that it's toxic and causes 80% of deaths before age 12. Could you think about chugging down another bottle when children are dying?

[Liriena]

No there would be still people protesting because people enjoy alcohol and aren't about to let the few people who manage to get messed up by it ruin it for them.

This is where the media arm of government comes in. You thought you enjoyed alcohol until you find out that it's toxic and causes 80% of deaths before age 12. Could you think about chugging down another bottle when children are dying?

[Shie]

Lethal force would have to be the next option, also media coverage on the subject is not allowed to be pro-protester.

So, we're talking insane totalitarian regimes without the least bit of regard for human rights? Awesome. Shall we also exterminate political, religious and sexual minorities while we are at it?

No, we can reform religious ideologies(Judaism is a useful religion for wartime, exterminating Jews is pointless and stupid) and political movements to support the state. I'm not sure what to do with sexual minorities. I guess they'll fade out eventually because they don't have kids anyways, no need to kill them.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

There would be no liquor industry, the military industrial complex is to be the focus. Alcohol will not be produced, planes, drones, missiles, bombs, trains, roads, rehabilitation centers: that will be the economy. Once the United States got enough America could invade Mexico and move downward.

Assuming the military leadership would actually do that and that the grunts would actually listen to you and not go renegade. Which they more than likely will.

Then even if they do, millions would die in a war like that.

Also, this is assuming Mexico and the rest of LATAM would not stand against the U.S. were that to happen. Also, assuming the U.S. is stupid enough to do it.

Although in modern America I am surprised nobody but he has proposed such a stupid Foreign Policy move.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No there would be still people protesting because people enjoy alcohol and aren't about to let the few people who manage to get messed up by it ruin it for them.

This is where the media arm of government comes in. You thought you enjoyed alcohol until you find out that it's toxic and causes 80% of deaths before age 12. Could you think about chugging down another bottle when children are dying?

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

So, we're talking insane totalitarian regimes without the least bit of regard for human rights? Awesome. Shall we also exterminate political, religious and sexual minorities while we are at it?

No, we can reform religious ideologies(Judaism is a useful religion for wartime, exterminating Jews is pointless and stupid) and political movements to support the state. I'm not sure what to do with sexual minorities. I guess they'll fade out eventually because they don't have kids anyways, no need to kill them.

Extremely pointless argument.

Homosexuality is less about static genes.

[Liriena]

I guess they'll fade out eventually because they don't have kids anyways, no need to kill them.

I take it you didn't think this particular sentence through before writing and posting it?

[Shie]

This is where the media arm of government comes in. You thought you enjoyed alcohol until you find out that it's toxic and causes 80% of deaths before age 12. Could you think about chugging down another bottle when children are dying?

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

We're not punishing anyone by asking liquor and cigarette manufacturers to clean up their act by producing more important things. We wouldn't be losing employees if we shifted national production towards a collective effort, like what happened during the second world war. The economy was booming!

And this is your brilliant plan to deal with alcoholism, rather than rehabilitation and education? Well, that's not the least bit needlessly complicated.

The resources gained from foreign invasion can be used on classrooms and rationed to provide for other necessities.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I guess they'll fade out eventually because they don't have kids anyways, no need to kill them.

I take it you didn't think this particular sentence through before writing and posting it?

This is implying so much about genetics, it's just better to laugh at it

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

And this is your brilliant plan to deal with alcoholism, rather than rehabilitation and education? Well, that's not the least bit needlessly complicated.

The resources gained from foreign invasion can be used on classrooms and rationed to provide for other necessities.

Yea, no alcohol, smokes, or drugs and having to conscript people for a foreign invasion?

You're just asking for a coup.

[Shie]

This is where the media arm of government comes in. You thought you enjoyed alcohol until you find out that it's toxic and causes 80% of deaths before age 12. Could you think about chugging down another bottle when children are dying?

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

Washing centers will stop criminals instead.

[Liriena]

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

And this is your brilliant plan to deal with alcoholism, rather than rehabilitation and education? Well, that's not the least bit needlessly complicated.

The resources gained from foreign invasion can be used on classrooms and rationed to provide for other necessities.

Your world domination fantasies aside, do you have any mildly realistic solution?

[Liriena]

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

Washing centers will stop criminals instead.

What the fuck would those "washing centers" do?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I would ingest alcohol regardless. That would not stop me.

Washing centers will stop criminals instead.

And that still wouldn't stop me.

See, you are working under the erroneous assumption I actually give a shit.