Creationism disproved?

[European Socialist Republic]

Science is a tool of the Devil to turn us into godless heathens!

[The USOT]

No he didn't. Creationism is one of the notable faith positions which not only fails to meet its burden of proof consistently, but has consistently been shown NOT to be true. I have no idea how long ago creationism was first proven to be utterly impossible, but I know Carl Sagan showed its fallibility years back.

[Mkuki]

OP, you should probably add your opinion before the thread gets knocked off. That's a phrase, right?

[The USOT]

Science is a tool of the Devil to turn us into godless heathens!

Well the devil turned me into a godless heathen, so it must be doing its job fairly well

[Usual Rubbish]

Usual Rubbish wrote:
Divair2 wrote:
That's a good joke.


the joke is giving these sorts of people the time of day on a scientific show only helps validate their view that its an alternative opinion.

Try a better April Fool's joke. If it's done daily on this website as satire, there's no need for it today. Quote

Ohhh, you think im a creationist. No im not. I just dont like fundies, and how they will try and turn this into a win for their side.

Edit: dont know what went wrong with the quotes

[Benuty]

no he just showed scientific data that the universe is over 6,500 years old.

I'm sure there is also evidence of how 2 people could not populate a planet.
Or how a boat could not hold 2 of every species.
etc....

Yet faith beats reason.....

Hence faith and it's adherents are evil.

Good april fools joke.

[Tekania]

When people say "creationism" they typically mean the whole American evangelican "world 6000 years old" creationism. Honestly though, I wish a smart guy like Neil deGrasse would talk about more pressing issues like the economy, instead of ripping into these dumb creationists who have been battered and disproven a trillion times.

He's an astrophysicist hosting a space-centric science program/documentary. Why in the fuck would he be discussing the economy?

[Dejanic]

When people say "creationism" they typically mean the whole American evangelican "world 6000 years old" creationism. Honestly though, I wish a smart guy like Neil deGrasse would talk about more pressing issues like the economy, instead of ripping into these dumb creationists who have been battered and disproven a trillion times.

He's an astrophysicist hosting a space-centric science program/documentary. Why in the fuck would he be discussing the economy?

Are you telling me that scientific funding doesn't depend on the economy? There are many reasons as to why an astro-physicist could discuss the economy. And I'm Sorry, but discussing the economy Is a hell of a lot more important than discussing the beliefs of loons.

[Mkuki]

He's an astrophysicist hosting a space-centric science program/documentary. Why in the fuck would he be discussing the economy?

Are you telling me that scientific funding doesn't depend on the economy? There are many reasons as to why an astro-physicist could discuss the economy. And I'm Sorry, but discussing the economy Is a hell of a lot more important than discussing the beliefs of loons.

1. The problem is that these "loons" represent a large minority (I believe at least 40%) of the American populace. They elect politicians with similar beliefs that end up defunding programs and agencies like NASA. Something, I think, that Tyson doesn't particularly approve of. For me, it is important to address and disprove the creationists. If only so we get politicians into office that don't believe in this nonsense.

2. Why would he discuss the economy? Tyson isn't an economist.

[Greater-London]

Creationism was never 'proved' in the first place - you cannot disprove something that has no evidence.

Regardless belief in evolution and God are not mutually exclusive, plenty of people choose both.

[Farnhamia]

no he just showed scientific data that the universe is over 6,500 years old.

I'm sure there is also evidence of how 2 people could not populate a planet.
Or how a boat could not hold 2 of every species.
etc....

Yet faith beats reason.....

Hence faith and it's adherents are evil.

*** Warned for trolling ***

"All X are Y"? Totally unnecessary.

[Estormo]

Science is a tool of the Devil to turn us into godless heathens!

You’re not funny.

[Tekania]

He's an astrophysicist hosting a space-centric science program/documentary. Why in the fuck would he be discussing the economy?

Are you telling me that scientific funding doesn't depend on the economy? There are many reasons as to why an astro-physicist could discuss the economy. And I'm Sorry, but discussing the economy Is a hell of a lot more important than discussing the beliefs of loons.

I'm telling you that economics is not the topic of his program. If you want to see economics discussions, turn to programs that are about economics. We're taking about a 20 second mention in a larger 40+ minute program that is about light traveling speed, the age of the universe and how viewing space is seeing into the past.

[Farnhamia]

Science is a tool of the Devil to turn us into godless heathens!

You’re not funny.

I believe that is what is known as sarcasm. Do you honestly think the "European Socialist Republic" is a creationist?

[Cannot think of a name]

He's an astrophysicist hosting a space-centric science program/documentary. Why in the fuck would he be discussing the economy?

Are you telling me that scientific funding doesn't depend on the economy? There are many reasons as to why an astro-physicist could discuss the economy. And I'm Sorry, but discussing the economy Is a hell of a lot more important than discussing the beliefs of loons.

And why doesn't Steven Reich ever talk about the climate?

[Farnhamia]

Are you telling me that scientific funding doesn't depend on the economy? There are many reasons as to why an astro-physicist could discuss the economy. And I'm Sorry, but discussing the economy Is a hell of a lot more important than discussing the beliefs of loons.

And why doesn't Steven Reich ever talk about the climate?

I want Janet Yellin's opinion on Pluto's status in the Solar System.

[Benuty]

Science is a tool of the Devil to turn us into godless heathens!

Well the devil turned me into a godless heathen, so it must be doing its job fairly well

I didn't realize you were into heathenry?

[Tekania]

And why doesn't Steven Reich ever talk about the climate?

I want Janet Yellin's opinion on Pluto's status in the Solar System.

Indeed... that reminds me, I need to call my optometrist to book a prostate exam.

[Olthar]

You don't need to disprove that which has no proof. Tyson simply hit another nail in the coffin. There are already millions of nails, but another is good.

The coffin is made entirely of nails welded together with a blowtorch that was also made out of nails.

[Tekania]

You don't need to disprove that which has no proof. Tyson simply hit another nail in the coffin. There are already millions of nails, but another is good.

The coffin is made entirely of nails welded together with a blowtorch that was also made out of nails.

The program was also about blackholes.... perhaps he was hoping one more nail was enough for the coffin to collapse under its own gravity.

Frankly the program is produced by Seth MacFarlane...... everyone should at least be happy that Dr. Tyson doesn't end up in random street brawls with anthropomorphized man sized chickens.

[Estormo]

You’re not funny.

I believe that is what is known as sarcasm. Do you honestly think the "European Socialist Republic" is a creationist?

No, not by any means. It’s insulting, and no, I am not a Creationist.

[Libertarian California]

This disproves New Earth creationism, which is silly because there's trees older than 6.5k years old. This doesn't disprove a deity creating the universe earlier in time, such as being the cause of the Big Bang or somesuch. I'm an atheist but Tyson was just disproving New Earth creationism, which should be blatantly false to even many religious people. I'm an atheist, and accept the evidence for a purely scientific origin, but this specific article isn't really disproving all forms of creationism. Such as Old Earth creationism.

When people say "creationism" they typically mean the whole American evangelican "world 6000 years old" creationism. Honestly though, I wish a smart guy like Neil deGrasse would talk about more pressing issues like the economy, instead of ripping into these dumb creationists who have been battered and disproven a trillion times.

Nei Degrasse Tyson talks a lot more about his opinions and irrelevant topics than actual science.

"Hey, let's disprove theories that have been debunked for hundreds of years and then throw in some bullshit social commentary rather than do anything productive".

[Margno]

Young earth creationism was disproved ages ago.

[Occupied Deutschland]

I really wish more people would learn the distinction between Creationism and Young Earth Creationism.

I'm a Creationist who soundly agrees with Tyson in this instance. The mislabeling gets frustrating though.

[Constantinopolis]

In order to believe in [Young Earth] Creationism, one must believe that for some reason our universe was created to look as if it was billions of years old, when in fact it isn't. There's absolutely no way around that. Tyson just mentioned one of many reasons why this is so.