Ukraine Crisis II: Electric Boogaloo

[Oaledonia]

Wut?
Why would China willingly go to war with the nation whom it's economy depends on?

China has territorial disputes and tensions with many countries, many with defense ties to the USA. It's possible that one day these disputes/tensions could end up sparking into a hot conflict one way or anther. I'm not saying China will go out of it's way to go to war with the USA, but it could end up being dragged into one. That likelihood only increases as China's power both economic and military power increases. One day it may choose or be forced to use force against on of those nations and it may bet the USA will not directly go to war with it regardless if it has a treaty with the nation that finds itself in conflict with. That bet being made is also more likely if anything after China has observed the Ukrainian mess that has gone on and how the treaty of protecting Ukraine sovereignty was thrown out completely by everyone.

I doubt it, considering that China isn't messing with a silly ex Soviet state with luaghable militaries. Instead, China is dealing with highly-advaced, capable militaries that are focused simply on defeating the Chinese navy and governments that wont simply slink away from a claim. I hardly think that China is willing to risk it's navy for something that silly, despite how "strong armed" they act politically.

The great thing about the US is that it doesn't have to focus on one or the other, it's perfictly capable of sending a few carrier groups over to Asia and putting troops in Europe. Because Asia won't be a ground-centric conflict, it will be fought at sea.

[Respawn]

Nothing interesting about it. Assad is in Putin's "camp" and he doesn't kill ethnic Russians or Russian citizens...besides some of the terrorists that went to join up other Islamic radicals to fight in the civil war World leaders are obviously going to be hypocrites, just like other countries like America supports Saudi Arabia whom used a deadly crack down on protesters but on the other hand demands other country's governments step down for the same thing.

No Russian citizens have been killed by Ukrainian forces either. But that doesn't matter. I take your point.

[Soviet Russia Republic]

I doubt it, considering that China isn't messing with a silly ex Soviet state with luaghable militaries. Instead, China is dealing with highly-advaced, capable militaries that are focused simply on defeating the Chinese navy and governments that wont simply slink away from a claim. I hardly think that China is willing to risk it's navy for something that silly, despite how "strong armed" they act politically.

The great thing about the US is that it doesn't have to focus on one or the other, it's perfictly capable of sending a few carrier groups over to Asia and putting troops in Europe. Because Asia won't be a ground-centric conflict, it will be fought at sea.

Some of them anyway, regardless much of them are still likely to be dwarfed by Chinese military might which now has the backing of a state with the second largest economy in the world. China itself is putting huge efforts to modernized and built up it's naval power, not to mention it's long range capabilities from land. I'm talking more in a longer term sense, not the present.

Increasing military presence (I don't mean something has laughable as 600 soldiers spread out in different countries) on both sides costs a decent deal resources and money...the USA will have to chose which side it focus more on. This is especially true as the nation is forced to undertake military cuts and it's debt issues just keep piling on.

[Soviet Russia Republic]

Nothing interesting about it. Assad is in Putin's "camp" and he doesn't kill ethnic Russians or Russian citizens...besides some of the terrorists that went to join up other Islamic radicals to fight in the civil war World leaders are obviously going to be hypocrites, just like other countries like America supports Saudi Arabia whom used a deadly crack down on protesters but on the other hand demands other country's governments step down for the same thing.

No Russian citizens have been killed by Ukrainian forces either. But that doesn't matter. I take your point.

I didn't mean to imply Ukraine did. I just added the citizens bit because Syria has killed some Russian citizens but they're Russian citizens whom should be killed so Moscow is not going to object to their deaths.

[Oaledonia]

I doubt it, considering that China isn't messing with a silly ex Soviet state with luaghable militaries. Instead, China is dealing with highly-advaced, capable militaries that are focused simply on defeating the Chinese navy and governments that wont simply slink away from a claim. I hardly think that China is willing to risk it's navy for something that silly, despite how "strong armed" they act politically.

The great thing about the US is that it doesn't have to focus on one or the other, it's perfictly capable of sending a few carrier groups over to Asia and putting troops in Europe. Because Asia won't be a ground-centric conflict, it will be fought at sea.

Some of them anyway, regardless much of them are still likely to be dwarfed by Chinese military might which now has the backing of a state with the second largest economy in the world. China itself is putting huge efforts to modernized and built up it's naval power, not to mention it's long range capabilities from land. I'm talking more in a longer term sense, not the present.

Increasing military presence (I don't mean something has laughable as 600 soldiers spread out in different countries) on both sides costs a decent deal resources and money...the USA will have to chose which side it focus more on. This is especially true as the nation is forced to undertake military cuts and it's debt issues just keep piling on.

The thing is, that a lot of nations with these highly-advanced militaries all share a common distrust for China, and combined they all put china's navy to shame in terms of AShM capability. If we are speaking long term, then China is screwed once the first suplies of Perseus missiles arrive. Like Japan, which has a nightmares worth of anti-ship weapons, ships, and tricks. The greatest thing about using Western weapons is the attention to "this many x can defeat this many Eastern bloc weapons". Either way, a war in the Pacific is unwinable.

Even with these cuts, people fail to realize that the US is spending more now then anytime during the coldwar on it's military, and that's ajusted for inflation. The debt has nothing to do with military capability, saying it does means you are ignorant to how the US debt works. Still, the US only needs to devote a single carrier group to China and those luaghable amount of troops in Europe. After all, would Russia be that fucking braindead to attack a region with US troops in it? If so, then it can kiss any land outside of it's homeland goodbye.

[Scholmeria]

One guy dying is not a crackdown, and it clearly said that the Right Sector blocked off a govt building unopposed after that. Still, no attempts at punishing those responsible for violence against civilians, including the First Secretary of the Lvov Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine.

This was not any guy, he was the leader (to translate you better the de facto Fuehrer) of the Right sector. A person who fought in Chechen war against the Russians. Why would the Kiev Government kill their leader if they "tolerate" them?

With all due respect to the First secretary, but he is not a civilian just like the Right Sector leader. Also, If I am correct neither RT reported that ordinary civilians were under atatck or threat (also people who have nothing with politics).

Also, could any RT viewer say what is the message about the advertisement about Donetsk joining the UK?

I other news: Ukraine started an attack on Slaviansk.

[Yanalia]

One guy dying is not a crackdown, and it clearly said that the Right Sector blocked off a govt building unopposed after that. Still, no attempts at punishing those responsible for violence against civilians, including the First Secretary of the Lvov Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine.

This was not any guy, he was the leader (to translate you better the de facto Fuehrer) of the Right sector. A person who fought in Chechen war against the Russians. Why would the Kiev Government kill their leader if they "tolerate" them?

With all due respect to the First secretary, but he is not a civilian just like the Right Sector leader. Also, If I am correct neither RT reported that ordinary civilians were under atatck or threat (also people who have nothing with politics).

Also, could any RT viewer say what is the message about the advertisement about Donetsk joining the UK?

I other news: Ukraine started an attack on Slaviansk.

Unlike Right Sector, the CPU is a political party, not a militia. CPU politicians are most certainly civilians. Regardless of course, they cannot be targets of random violence.

[Lyttenburgh]

This was not any guy, he was the leader (to translate you better the de facto Fuehrer) of the Right sector. A person who fought in Chechen war against the Russians. Why would the Kiev Government kill their leader if they "tolerate" them?

With all due respect to the First secretary, but he is not a civilian just like the Right Sector leader. Also, If I am correct neither RT reported that ordinary civilians were under atatck or threat (also people who have nothing with politics).

Also, could any RT viewer say what is the message about the advertisement about Donetsk joining the UK?

I other news: Ukraine started an attack on Slaviansk.

[Sigh]

Scholmeria, your "news" most of the time are either reported already by some oother users here, or hust plain wrong. Looks like you have an incredibly distorted view on what is happening on the Ukraine right now? Where are you from, by the way? Finland? Estonia?

1) Alexander Muzychko aka Sashko Bilyi wasn't some "de facto Fuehrer". He was leader of the Right Sector forces and gangs in the Rovno region. Fun fact, by recent press-release from the Ukrainian Interior Ministry confirmed, that Muzychko shot himself during the attempt to arrest him. Lying on the ground, with hands handcuffed behind his back, he, probably, at first specially tore his shirt on torso, then grabbed the gun and shot himself through the belly and chest. Several times. Tru story - police of democratic Ukraine won't lie, will they?

Oh, and Right Sector leader's name is Yarosh - he is also a candidate for President.

2) Ukrainian "anti terroristic operation" is over. Lootas on wartrukks Ukranian Invincible (Нэпереможная) Army attacked a lone separatist's strongpoint near Slivyansk, killed 5 people, LOOTED IT for medicine chests, ammo, food, shitted themselves, and then run away. Aftermath.

[United Marxist Nations]

This was not any guy, he was the leader (to translate you better the de facto Fuehrer) of the Right sector. A person who fought in Chechen war against the Russians. Why would the Kiev Government kill their leader if they "tolerate" them?

With all due respect to the First secretary, but he is not a civilian just like the Right Sector leader. Also, If I am correct neither RT reported that ordinary civilians were under atatck or threat (also people who have nothing with politics).

Also, could any RT viewer say what is the message about the advertisement about Donetsk joining the UK?

I other news: Ukraine started an attack on Slaviansk.

Unlike Right Sector, the CPU is a political party, not a militia. CPU politicians are most certainly civilians. Regardless of course, they cannot be targets of random violence.

It was not random, he was actually attacked by the Maiden protestors, he was kidnapped, tortured, and badly beaten (last I heard, he was in a coma in a hospital in Russia, where he was taken for better treatment).

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Dutch fighter jets escort Russian bombers who had violated their air space back out.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/23/world ... tercepted/

??????????? wat the fuck is Russia doing over the Netherlands ???

Did Putin get drunk or what

[Oaledonia]

Dutch fighter jets escort Russian bombers who had violated their air space back out.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/23/world ... tercepted/

??????????? wat the fuck is Russia doing over the Netherlands ???

Did Putin get drunk or what

Russia is always trying to probe air defenses.

[United Marxist Nations]

??????????? wat the fuck is Russia doing over the Netherlands ???

Did Putin get drunk or what

Russia is always trying to probe air defenses.

Nice guy Putin tries to show other countries holes in their air defense.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Dutch fighter jets escort Russian bombers who had violated their air space back out.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/23/world ... tercepted/

??????????? wat the fuck is Russia doing over the Netherlands ???

Did Putin get drunk or what

Putin is reviving Russia's claim on the Low Countries.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Gunmen have attacked a separatist checkpoint near Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/154472-gunmen-slavya ... k-defense/

Not good.

Ukraine is saying it has killed 5 Self Defense forces so far...
They need to back the fuck off.

So help me out on this. Russia is entitled to perform anti-separatism operations over its own territory (as it has numerous times) , and gets to call them "anti-terrorism/separatism" operations, but when Ukraine does it, it's instantly "starting civil war/firing on their own people/killing <<self defence forces>> " (the last one always makes me giggle) .

Massive convoy of Russian BTR's and lorrys+With artillery just a few kilometers from the border.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_Rl0pbkUk

Holy shit. This is a cluster bomb's wettest dream

Kiev has suspended anti terror operation hence the withdrawal, all available forces are being moved to the border they feel invasion is imminent.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine ... 44902.html

I hope that common sense will prevail and Russia would stop acting like a small child who's had his toy taken away.

Lavrov has delayed his statement to this evening presumably giving kiev time to back down, if not peacekeepers go in.

??????????? wat the fuck is Russia doing over the Netherlands ???

Did Putin get drunk or what

Putin is reviving Russia's claim on the Low Countries.

Workers Ethnic Russians of the world Unite!

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

These fine Western fellows should have visit Lviv on Monday, right after the Easter. Why? See, there is a tradition of "обливаний понеділок", ("Wet Monday") to walk around and spray water on random passersby’s. Sounds nice and pretty, right? Well, in the Right Sector's stronghold nothing can be right!

These are the photos from this year "Wet Monday" in the "Ukrainian Piedmont" (yeah, Lviv - "the Heart of the Ukrainian National Свiдомость"). Just look at faces of young men spraying (and kicking shit out of) people with reckless abandon! Think it's just some "Kremlinite propaganda"? Then what about an article on the 110% kosher Ukrainian news-site?

Lviv's traditional Wet Monday ended in scandal. Self-defense patrols armed with electro shockers arrested hooligans who doused passerby from plastic bottles and buckets full of water.

About a hundred teenagers in balaclava masks doused people, despite the fact that this year's wet fun on the streets had been banned (in years past Lvov were outrages that that ancient tradition had become a form of hooliganism) .

For "polivalniki" there was an isolated area near the Town Hall, where they frolicked at first spraying each other with water. For all willing there were free shower caps and raincoats. They used water only from fountains.

Part of young people decided that was not enough, and they moved to other streets where everyone had a shower in a row, including the elderly. Self-defense of Maidan detained hooligans.

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Russia has its Gopniks too , I don't know what point you think you're making here.

Most military exercises do not involve setting up artillery in fields just a few hundred meters from your neighbors border.

Considering the internal situation in Ukraine, Russia would be crazy not to be prepared.

..to what? Violate Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity by invading it once again?

And how exactly do you perceive Ukraine's internal situation?

[sarcasm]Because Right Sector is totally representative of the views and opinions of the Maidan movement and the interim Ukrainian government! Just as Tsar Putin had long feared![/sarcasm]

Then maybe the Kiev authority should crack down on them if they don't want to associated with them instead of tolerating them.

..or did you miss the Ukrainian Police evacuating that hotel in Kiev where Right Sector had based themselves in ? You can see it in one of Vice's "dispatches" as they call them on YT, can't remember exactly which one, but I swear, at one point this poor guy (well probably not really ) attempted to exit through a window and climb down from there but eventually went back in . They were probably being given a good whooping, or perhaps he feared he might be wanted for a crime, idk. In any case, he was visibly scared, otherwise he would've just taken the elevator or stairs , obviously.

Journalist.

Heres some on the people he is followed by
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR (Obvious)
https://twitter.com/maxseddon
https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS (BBC)
https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK (RT)

I see. Well, I suppose an intervention cannot be ruled out nor would it be totally unjustified.
In any case, I'll believe it when I see it. There have been plenty of false starts before.

A round of applause for this gentleman .

The US will have to rethink it's "pivot to Asia" strategy, and European NATO states will have to boost overall defense spending.

If the USA reversed it's "pivot to Asia" strategy, it would properly end up having reverse it back to China. There's a larger chance of USA allies by treaty getting into a war with China than say a NATO country like Estonia country getting into a war with Russia. Not to mention China will be the bigger rival to the USA and naturally that will be the one where it will need to devote the most amount of resources to try and remain top dog...unless things change considerably.

Unlike Russia, China isn't crazy enough to fuck up economic ties with stupid muscle flexing. And what exactly do you think are those allies "more likely to go into a war with China" ?

Wut?
Why would China willingly go to war with the nation whom it's economy depends on?

China has territorial disputes and tensions with many countries, many with defense ties to the USA. It's possible that one day these disputes/tensions could end up sparking into a hot conflict one way or anther. I'm not saying China will go out of it's way to go to war with the USA, but it could end up being dragged into one. That likelihood only increases as China's power both economic and military power increases. One day it may choose or be forced to use force against on of those nations and it may bet the USA will not directly go to war with it regardless if it has a treaty with the nation that finds itself in conflict with. That bet being made is also more likely if anything after China has observed the Ukrainian mess that has gone on and how the treaty of protecting Ukraine sovereignty was thrown out completely by everyone.

Regardless of the US intervening militarily or not, it would still have negative economic consequences.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

A bit of good news, Ostrovsky is freed. It wasn't smart to take him in the first place so that is a welcome development.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/simon-ostrovsky-u-s-journalist-held-in-ukraine-now-free-1.2620681

Otherwise tho the Kiev Junta is still acting like a shrill child and the Self Defense groups may need help.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

A bit of good news, Ostrovsky is freed. It wasn't smart to take him in the first place so that is a welcome development.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/simon-ostrovsky-u-s-journalist-held-in-ukraine-now-free-1.2620681

Otherwise tho the Kiev Junta is still acting like a shrill child and the Self Defense groups may need help.

NO NO. Because it has been revealed Simon has a double citizenship US-JEWISTAN. Glorious People's Self Defense Forces folded US-JEW zionist plot .

You're also clueless about what a junta is . I recommend familiarizing yourself with words before using them (rather obsessively) .

These "Self Defense" forces are no more and no less self-defense oriented than Chechen separatists for example. How Russia gets to perform anti-separatist operations and label them as such but when Ukraine does it it instantly becomes "killing their own people/starting civil wars/killing <<self-defense>> forces" dumbfounds me.

[United Marxist Nations]

A bit of good news, Ostrovsky is freed. It wasn't smart to take him in the first place so that is a welcome development.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/simon-ostrovsky-u-s-journalist-held-in-ukraine-now-free-1.2620681

Otherwise tho the Kiev Junta is still acting like a shrill child and the Self Defense groups may need help.

NO NO. Because it has been revealed Simon has a double citizenship US-JEWISTAN. Glorious People's Self Defense Forces folded US-JEW zionist plot .

You're also clueless about what a junta is . I recommend familiarizing yourself with words before using them (rather obsessively) .

These "Self Defense" forces are no more and no less self-defense oriented than Chechen separatists for example. How Russia gets to perform anti-separatist operations and label them as such but when Ukraine does it it instantly becomes "killing their own people/starting civil wars/killing <<self-defense>> forces" dumbfounds me.

Are you really still pulling the "East Ukrainian militia hates Jews" thing? Because that was debunked a while ago.

[Occupied Deutschland]

NO NO. Because it has been revealed Simon has a double citizenship US-JEWISTAN. Glorious People's Self Defense Forces folded US-JEW zionist plot .

You're also clueless about what a junta is . I recommend familiarizing yourself with words before using them (rather obsessively) .

These "Self Defense" forces are no more and no less self-defense oriented than Chechen separatists for example. How Russia gets to perform anti-separatist operations and label them as such but when Ukraine does it it instantly becomes "killing their own people/starting civil wars/killing <<self-defense>> forces" dumbfounds me.

Are you really still pulling the "East Ukrainian militia hates Jews" thing? Because that was debunked a while ago.

He was referencing one of the stated reasons for Ostrovsky's being held.
It was said by a city spokesman (perhaps even the 'people's mayor', don't recall) that it was partially due to his Israeli passport.

[Lemanrussland]

A bit of good news, Ostrovsky is freed. It wasn't smart to take him in the first place so that is a welcome development.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/simon-ostrovsky-u-s-journalist-held-in-ukraine-now-free-1.2620681

Otherwise tho the Kiev Junta is still acting like a shrill child and the Self Defense groups may need help.

NO NO. Because it has been revealed Simon has a double citizenship US-JEWISTAN. Glorious People's Self Defense Forces folded US-JEW zionist plot .

You're also clueless about what a junta is . I recommend familiarizing yourself with words before using them (rather obsessively) .

These "Self Defense" forces are no more and no less self-defense oriented than Chechen separatists for example. How Russia gets to perform anti-separatist operations and label them as such but when Ukraine does it it instantly becomes "killing their own people/starting civil wars/killing <<self-defense>> forces" dumbfounds me.

Because it's just a bunch of bullshit rhetoric.

Countries do things for their own rational self-interest, not because of some kind of abstract morality.

Of course Russia will portray it's anti-separatist operations as justified, while those of countries like Georgia and Ukraine will be portrayed negatively.

If a Russian dominated government was putting down right wing separatists in West Ukraine, they would portray it positively.

The US also has double standards of it's own. All the great powers are hypocrites and liars, when it benefits them.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

NO NO. Because it has been revealed Simon has a double citizenship US-JEWISTAN. Glorious People's Self Defense Forces folded US-JEW zionist plot .

You're also clueless about what a junta is . I recommend familiarizing yourself with words before using them (rather obsessively) .

These "Self Defense" forces are no more and no less self-defense oriented than Chechen separatists for example. How Russia gets to perform anti-separatist operations and label them as such but when Ukraine does it it instantly becomes "killing their own people/starting civil wars/killing <<self-defense>> forces" dumbfounds me.

Are you really still pulling the "East Ukrainian militia hates Jews" thing? Because that was debunked a while ago.

No it was never debunked. What was debunked were those fliers or whatever they were calling for Jews to register themselves. Many Russophiles have repeatedly shown their McCarthy-ist tirade against supposed zionism/fascism/NWO or whatever conspiracy theories they find themselves pulling out of their ass.

When news came that Ostrosky has a US-Israelian double citizenship it was the main highlight of Russian reporting on his situation, and this was presented in a very "ALLCAPS"-y style like it was a big discovery and a very important and relevant fact. If this isn't a sign of antisemitism I don't know what is.

NO NO. Because it has been revealed Simon has a double citizenship US-JEWISTAN. Glorious People's Self Defense Forces folded US-JEW zionist plot .

You're also clueless about what a junta is . I recommend familiarizing yourself with words before using them (rather obsessively) .

These "Self Defense" forces are no more and no less self-defense oriented than Chechen separatists for example. How Russia gets to perform anti-separatist operations and label them as such but when Ukraine does it it instantly becomes "killing their own people/starting civil wars/killing <<self-defense>> forces" dumbfounds me.

Because it's just a bunch of bullshit rhetoric.

Countries do things for their own rational self-interest, not because of some kind of abstract morality.

Of course Russia will portray it's anti-separatist operations as justified, while those of countries like Georgia and Ukraine will be portrayed negatively.

If a Russian dominated government was putting down right wing separatists in West Ukraine, they would portray it positively.

The US also has double standards of it's own. All the great powers are hypocrites and liars, when it benefits them.

I'm well aware of all of this. I was just trying to point it out to this fine gentleman.

[Alien Space Bats]

China has territorial disputes and tensions with many countries, many with defense ties to the USA. It's possible that one day these disputes/tensions could end up sparking into a hot conflict one way or anther. I'm not saying China will go out of it's way to go to war with the USA, but it could end up being dragged into one. That likelihood only increases as China's power both economic and military power increases. One day it may choose or be forced to use force against on of those nations and it may bet the USA will not directly go to war with it regardless if it has a treaty with the nation that finds itself in conflict with. That bet being made is also more likely if anything after China has observed the Ukrainian mess that has gone on and how the treaty of protecting Ukraine sovereignty was thrown out completely by everyone.

China's territorial disputes with its neighbors are more symbolic than anything else; China doesn't benefit from increasing tensions, let alone from war with anyone.

For China, the future lies in greater integration with the global economic system and the political power that comes from holding a more important place within the Western world. This is one reason that I DON'T see the possibility that China will copycat Russia's moves in the Ukraine: Russia has an economy focused on resource extraction that its largely peripheral to the world, in so far as the resources that it sells are commodities that are widely available elsewhere in increasing quantity; China, OTOH, is well on the way towards becoming a sophisticated vendor of manufactured goods and services with a vibrant banking sector to support such work, as well as an increasingly important destination for consumer sales. Russia, like Saudi Arabia, exists at an arms reach from the world while being of some importance to it; China, OTOH, is becoming increasing central to the world.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

This was not any guy, he was the leader (to translate you better the de facto Fuehrer) of the Right sector. A person who fought in Chechen war against the Russians. Why would the Kiev Government kill their leader if they "tolerate" them?

With all due respect to the First secretary, but he is not a civilian just like the Right Sector leader. Also, If I am correct neither RT reported that ordinary civilians were under atatck or threat (also people who have nothing with politics).

Also, could any RT viewer say what is the message about the advertisement about Donetsk joining the UK?

I other news: Ukraine started an attack on Slaviansk.

[Sigh]

Feeling a bit down? Prozac never fails.

Looks like you have an incredibly distorted view on what is happening on the Ukraine right now?

no u

And is that an affirmation or a question?

Where are you from, by the way?

How the fuck is this relevant at all? Where are YOU from?

Finland? Estonia?

Finns and Estonians r totes just a bunch of crazies who can't control their irrational ( ) Russophobia so they can keep their "news" and opinions to themselves since they're by default poisoned by this rampant and irrational ( ) hate

Can you plox not into strawman anymore ?

1) Alexander Muzychko aka Sashko Bilyi wasn't some "de facto Fuehrer". He was leader of the Right Sector forces and gangs in the Rovno region. Fun fact, by recent press-release from the Ukrainian Interior Ministry confirmed, that Muzychko shot himself during the attempt to arrest him. Lying on the ground, with hands handcuffed behind his back, he, probably, at first specially tore his shirt on torso, then grabbed the gun and shot himself through the belly and chest. Several times. Tru story - police of democratic Ukraine won't lie, will they?

Were this to be carried out by Yanu's regime you couldn't have found enough words to describe your admiration.

Oh, and Right Sector leader's name is Yarosh - he is also a candidate for President.

Source? And even if true this doesn't mean anything. Are you familiar with the "Rent is too damn high" dude who ran for mayor in NYC?

2) Ukrainian "anti terroristic operation" is over. Lootas on wartrukks Ukranian Invincible (Нэпереможная) Army attacked a lone separatist's strongpoint near Slivyansk, killed 5 people, LOOTED IT for medicine chests, ammo, food, shitted themselves, and then run away. Aftermath.

Quotation marks have no place there, that's exactly what it is. Oh and the "Aftermath" vid is totally legit. RT video showing an unnamed somebody. Totally credible.

I also LOVE how you like to sprinkle these catchy little sidenotes over your posts. So edgy & totally adds more weight to your arguments.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Unlike Right Sector, the CPU is a political party, not a militia. CPU politicians are most certainly civilians. Regardless of course, they cannot be targets of random violence.

It was not random, he was actually attacked by the Maiden protestors, he was kidnapped, tortured, and badly beaten (last I heard, he was in a coma in a hospital in Russia, where he was taken for better treatment).

Whatever happened to the perpetrators of the kidnappings and torture of Maidaners, activists, and journalists? I'm not appealing to hypocrisy as, if what you say has happened is true, then I fully support that the people involved be brought to justice - just curious.

[Shofercia]

Solution: hold a democratic referendum, region by region, with six months for campaigning in advance, with debates reserved and thousands of election monitors, in all of Moldova on the issues of:

1. Do you want to join Romania?
2. Do you want the status quo?
3. Do you want to join Russia?
4. Do you want independence for your region?

Haha, nice fucking try. Can't you get it through your head that neither Ukraine nor Moldova are federations? They are unitary republics. Why are you pretending everyone's like Russia? (not that Russia would allow any of this, after all, even spreading separatist views can get you up to 5 yrs in prison)

Oh, I'm sorry, was there a memo saying that I have to support everything that Russia does? Nope, there wasn't. But it's quite amazing that you're willing to take a dump on democratic voting, especially the type of voting that could solve Moldova's problems once and for all, simply because it's against America's geopolitical interests.

Pay Odessa for passage, much like Lithuania gets paid for passage to Kaliningrad. It's not unheard of for cargo trucks to move through several countries.

Yeah, I doubt that after losing Crimea & the current situation in the East , Ukraine would let that happen. I love how you like to pretend that ex-USSR countries universally have autonomous regions and apparently, cities even, they don't . Not to mention that they'd be getting really close to Romania. Serpent's Island is only about what, 90 miles or so away from Odessa.

I'm talking about passage for civilian goods. And what's wrong with civilian goods getting awfully close to Romania? Russian civilian goods even *gasps* enter Romania occasionally.

Regarding comments, like you said, idiots abound.

Terrorists took hostage journalist. NTV, it's your colleague ... but what am I? What are you a journalist? You have long been a cog in this infernal machine deceitful propaganda of Goebbels! Shame!

Pure gems.

No more so than your gem about the dump on Moldova's democratic voting. BTW, de facto Moldova's not a unitary state. Typical Westerner, thinks he can write up something on paper, an expects everyone on the ground to follow that. Ha, ha, ha, ha!

Transinistria or whatever the fuck it's called, can't be part of Russia, no matter how much they want it. Russia doesn't have any links to it over land or even through the sea, unlike with Kaliningrad. It's better off being either what it is now or being an autonomous republic under Moldovan protection/semi-administration.

If Kaliningard can haz civilian goods over Lithuania, TransDneister can haz civilian goods over Odessa. It's not rocket science. No one, in their right mind, would refuse passage of civilian goods over their land, if they were compensated appropriately for said passage. It's just sheer lunacy to think otherwise.

Gunmen have attacked a separatist checkpoint near Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/154472-gunmen-slavya ... k-defense/

Not good.

Whenever I see "self defense forces" it makes me giggle. When not pro-Russian, they're "terrorist/separatists" , when they're pro-Russian they're "self defense forces" . The old terrorist/freedom fighter dichotomy .

Like the one you're applauding here?

Terrorists tried to storm ammo dump in Artemvisk, attack was repelled with casualties.

Reinforcements have been brought in by helicopter

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Artemivsk&src=hash

Double standards much?