"England" or "United Kingdom"

by **Celritannia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:14 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
Yeah, but it can be pretty dangerous. One second you're scrubbing your groin, next second you're an eunuch.

And still he can't cut be arsed his mullet?

As for England, I propose that England be divided into Northumbria, Mercia, Essex, East Anglia, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, with borders defined according to the consensus following the defeat of Offa of Mercia.

This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

by **Edward Richtofen** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:20 am

Conscentia wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:Great Britain

But that leaves out Northern Ireland.

well we'll incorporate it, I like the name Great Britain, even though I despise the imperialism behind it

by **Forsakia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:21 am

Why are you imposing a united Wales on us.

Let the Princes of Gwynedd alongside the Kings of Powys and Deheubarth, and greatest of all, the fine Kingdom of Gwent.

by **Alyakia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:22 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Conscentia wrote:But that leaves out Northern Ireland.

well we'll incorporate it, I like the name Great Britain, even though I despise the imperialism behind it

do you mean the name has been tainted because of the UK or have you forgotten where the term came from?

by **SD_Film Artists** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:28 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
And still he can't cut be arsed his mullet?

As for England, I propose that England be divided into Northumbria, Mercia, Essex, East Anglia, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, with borders defined according to the consensus following the defeat of Offa of Mercia.

This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

You lump Suffolk and Norfolk in with Essex? Do you enjoy war?

by **Celritannia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:52 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:You lump Suffolk and Norfolk in with Essex? Do you enjoy war?

I just found an image that had the Regions of the UK on

by **Nationes Pii Redivivi** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:05 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
And still he can't cut be arsed his mullet?

As for England, I propose that England be divided into Northumbria, Mercia, Essex, East Anglia, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, with borders defined according to the consensus following the defeat of Offa of Mercia.

This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

There doesn't seem to be any basis for this division beside geography, and even then, why is London it's own country?

Obviously, we need to redivide England according to the post-Offa concensus which predates the Viking invasion.

by **Olivaero** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:02 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

There doesn't seem to be any basis for this division beside geography, and even then, why is London it's own country?

Obviously, we need to redivide England according to the post-Offa concensus which predates the Viking invasion.

Well, why does scotland stop at berwick upon tweed? The only thing that really fosters common cultures is geographic proximity. One thing I do like about that map though is it spereates Yorkshire from the North-East :twisted:

by **Celritannia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:12 am

Olivaero wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any basis for this division beside geography, and even then, why is London it's own country?

Obviously, we need to redivide England according to the post-Offa concensus which predates the Viking invasion.

Well, why does scotland stop at berwick upon tweed? The only thing that really fosters common cultures is geographic proximity. One thing I do like about that map though is it spereates Yorkshire from the North-East

Why do you think I chose this one

by **Greater-London** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:16 am

It's not just the Scotts, Welsh and Irish who get upset when you refer to the UK as England. Us English aren't fans of it either, I mean some of my friends are known Welshmen but that doesn't mean I'd like to be one

by **Person012345** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:38 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
And still he can't cut be arsed his mullet?

As for England, I propose that England be divided into Northumbria, Mercia, Essex, East Anglia, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, with borders defined according to the consensus following the defeat of Offa of Mercia.

This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

You're grouping the Isle of Man with North West England? :eyebrow:

by **Celritannia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:14 am

Person012345 wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

You're grouping the Isle of Man with North West England?

I didn't make this XD
I found it on Google

by **Imperializt Russia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:16 am

Person012345 wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
This might be better:

Yorkshire and the Humber

You're grouping the Isle of Man with North West England?

You're implying there's a problem with this.
I'm not saying there's not, just that I don't know.

by **Atorea** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:23 am

I call them England if I am referring to them, and UK if I am referring to the entire country.

by **Person012345** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:25 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:You're implying there's a problem with this.
I'm not saying there's not, just that I don't know.

I don't think that would go down very well here as an administrative division.

by **Pope Joan** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:36 am

How about "Great Britain"?

It seems to me that Jolly Olde has been calling many of the shots internationally for the past 25 years.

Their fingerprints are all over the Mideast.

and Crimea? Are you kidding? Back there again, eh?

Seriously, I believe USA has been taking its cues from Jolly Olde, and I deplore it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... or-UN.html

http://www.senseoncents.com/2013/06/uk- ... -for-good/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econ ... l-out.html

I am amazed at the continuing influence of the old empire.

by **Gallup** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:44 am

Whatever floats your boat.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:44 am

Uhh...
We're not in Crimea and we never will be?

by **Gallup** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:45 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Uhh...
We're not in Crimea and we never will be?

Who is "we"?

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:47 am

The UK's pretty much ruled by the English so why not?

They have an English monarch and an English prime minister.

So... why not?

by **Imperializt Russia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:49 am

Gallup wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Uhh...
We're not in Crimea and we never will be?

Who is "we"?

"Jolly Olde" England, I assume.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:50 am

Viritica wrote:The UK's pretty much ruled by the English so why not?

They have an English monarch and an English prime minister.

So... why not?

Because English is not the only ethnic group of the United Kingdom. Hence why it's a Union, not a Hegemony.
Besides, our last prime minister was Scottish.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:56 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Viritica wrote:The UK's pretty much ruled by the English so why not?

They have an English monarch and an English prime minister.

So... why not?

Because English is not the only ethnic group of the United Kingdom. Hence why it's a Union, not a Hegemony.
Besides, our last prime minister was Scottish.

Don't deny that the English have a huge influence in the United Kingdom. Their only equal might (and I put emphasis on might) be the Scottish. I think we can pretty much disregard the Welsh and the Northern Irish.

by **SD_Film Artists** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:01 am

Viritica wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Because English is not the only ethnic group of the United Kingdom. Hence why it's a Union, not a Hegemony.
Besides, our last prime minister was Scottish.

Don't deny that the English have a huge influence in the United Kingdom. Their only equal might (and I put emphasis on might) be the Scottish. I think we can pretty much disregard the Welsh and the Northern Irish.

He wasn't denying England's influence, but to list those things like "English Prime Minister" etc as if it's always been like that is severely downplaying the role of Scotland (and other Constituent Countries) in the UK.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:06 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Viritica wrote:Don't deny that the English have a huge influence in the United Kingdom. Their only equal might (and I put emphasis on might) be the Scottish. I think we can pretty much disregard the Welsh and the Northern Irish.

He wasn't denying England's influence, but to list those things like "English Prime Minister" etc as if it's always been like that is severely downplaying the role of Scotland (and other Constituent Countries) in the UK.

Forgive me, but I don't think countries like Wales and Northern Ireland are playing any significant role in British politics...

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