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Postby Free Tristania » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:14 am

Ifreann wrote:If anything we should encourage race mixing, because fuck racists and the horse they rode in on.

I am a "race mixer" (let me wear that badge with great pride, thanks) and I don't agree with your stance either. Relationships between a man and a woman are very much private and politicians and left- or right-wing lunatics should stay the hell out of it.
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Postby Baxten » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:14 am

Prince of Conti wrote:Hello friends....

We're here today to discuss a pressing issue for our society..."race mixing"

I believe it should be discouraged because it cause social chaos and disorder and a lot of genetic problems...we shouldn't ban interracial marriages, but couples of different races should suffer economic penalties...

What are you thoughts on the subject?

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No offense, but this is a very racist topic and opinion. I can see social orders, but guess who caused that. The stupid racist in the country. Genetic problems, I'm doubting that. As for an economic penalty, that's just stupid. We shouldn't tax people just because two people of different races love each other.
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Postby Cuprum » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:15 am

What the hell is this crap?

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Postby Tagmatium » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:15 am

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Arglorand wrote:Arguably, what the Romans were doing was imperialism, so I think you mean '18th-19th century imperialism' instead.

In Leninist philosophy, "imperialism" refers exclusively to that imperialism. What the Romans did would be called "proto-imperialism."

It tends to help to use the commonly-held definitions of words when not talking to those who share your political ideology, so that confusion can be avoided.
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Postby Arglorand » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:15 am

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Arglorand wrote:You underestimate how often pogroms happened in much of Europe.

No, I'm saying that in Iberia it wasn't used in a context of wide popular intolerance, but more of having a pretext to pull the rug of those you deem inconvenient and using them as a cheap source of service.

Oh, you meant that /Iberia/ had the servitude system.

Sorry. Misunderstood you.
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Postby Prince of Conti » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:15 am

UED wrote:If race mixing is discouraged, then how shall I ever get any white girls?


you shalln't
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Postby Arana » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:15 am

My uncle is Irish and Scottish, and my aunt is from the Phillipines, and they have two kids. Plus, my cousin was adopted from Guatemala. So this kinda pisses me off, just a bit.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 am

UED wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:What's a race?


Its where people or animals run around tracks


Then I see no reason why we wouldn't want to mix those. Imagine if every race was like the running of the bulls.
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Postby Kyogen » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 am

Alvaria and Cagwenyn wrote:It shouldn't be encouraged, nor should it be discouraged.


I agree with this too! it is peoples own business and race should not be important in anythink be it work or love or place to live or ANYTHINK!

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Postby Arglorand » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 am

Prince of Conti wrote:
UED wrote:If race mixing is discouraged, then how shall I ever get any white girls?


you shalln't

Politely, fuck that.

He and everyone else has the right to fuck whoever they like, provided they're consenting legal adult humans.
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Postby UED » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 am

Prince of Conti wrote:
UED wrote:If race mixing is discouraged, then how shall I ever get any white girls?


you shalln't


No, NOOO!!!
But being serious, I believe race mixing shouldn't be discouraged or encouraged, just love whoever you want of any race without the consequences.
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Postby Tagmatium » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 am

Neutraligon wrote:
UED wrote:
Its where people or animals run around tracks


Then I see no reason why we wouldn't want to mix those. Imagine if every race was like the running of the bulls.

It might be quite amusing, however.
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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 am

Prince of Conti wrote:
UED wrote:If race mixing is discouraged, then how shall I ever get any white girls?


you shalln't

Why not?
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Immoren wrote:
Prince of Conti wrote:a lot of genetic problems


Mixing is good for genetics, not bad.


I've seen this claim over and over on NS, and never seen a decent source for it.
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Postby The White Horde » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Ifreann wrote:If anything we should encourage race mixing, because fuck racists and the horse they rode in on.


if you're down for that ;-]
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Postby Ayreonia » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Neutraligon wrote:
UED wrote:
Its where people or animals run around tracks


Then I see no reason why we wouldn't want to mix those. Imagine if every race was like the running of the bulls.

Dunno, that would certainly make the 10k a lot more watchable.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Prince of Conti wrote:
UED wrote:If race mixing is discouraged, then how shall I ever get any white girls?


you shalln't


Too bad for you, you will see how the world "mixes" more and more with globalization. So, I would say that you better get used to it because you will have a hard time living your life.
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Postby Free Tristania » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Conscentia wrote:Race mixing is impossible - there are no races.

That's not entirely true either. A German shepherd is no chihuahua either but they are all dogs in the end. The same goes for human beings.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Wonderful, and while we are at it, breeding kittehs should also be illegal. Only the pure-breeds can live.


/joking. The idea of discouraging it is stupid. It should be neither encouraged or discouraged.
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Postby UED » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:17 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Mixing is good for genetics, not bad.


I've seen this claim over and over on NS, and never seen a decent source for it.


Exactly
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:18 am

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United Marxist Nations wrote:No, but, up until the advent of imperialism, race wasn't much of a concept; for example, the Romans didn't discriminate based on race, and were fully aware of the existence of other races.

Yet, there are many examples of what might be termed "racism" from across history - such as the ever-prevalent presection of the Jews.

Arguably, that's also has a religious basis, too, but they were certainly defined as "other" based beyond just their religion.

Do you have much in the way of sources that would suggest that racism is an invention of imperialism? Whilst I tend to dislike throwing around the "Source!" thing, I'm genuinely interested. I can't really think of any examples off the top of my head to counter what you're saying, mind. I've got a vague recollection of comments by Anna Komnena in the Alexiad about Seljuks and the love of wine particular to their race, but I'm, again, unsure as to whether one could truly make the claim that it is racist, and not more of a religious angle.

Plus, a quick skim through that particular book didn't furnish me with any notable examples.

You make a point, that there was racism before imperialism; I spoke far too soon, and far too absolutely. What I meant to say was that it really took off with imperialism.

You can see in the wiki page on racism, that what existed in antiquity was vague, and related more to nationalism than racism; however, as exploration and conquest of Africa began, it was changed more to racism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#In_history
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Postby Indira » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:18 am

Prince of Conti wrote:
Divair wrote:No.


WhY not?

God/Nature has White people on earth for a reason....they're suppose to be here, living in their own space...

For an alien race to come in and start dating them would be unnatural.....there's a reason whites get an uneasy feeling around a lot of mexicans, blacks, asians, etc, it's not natural to live side-by-side....

the Holy Bible says at the very beginning, repeatedly: each creature after it's own kind.

This is a natural earth law...


Okay, even if you take the Bible as true (And it isn't) different races are still HUMAN, specifically it's own kind. As for whites feeling uneasy around other races, only racists do. Most of us have moved past that. Indeed, there are people who are ATTRACTED to people of different races, such as men who are attracted to asians. And then we get people who are attracted to sci-fi fictional aliens like T'Pol (Vulcan)

Sorry, your natural law argument falls apart before it even begins

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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:18 am

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Postby Tagmatium » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:18 am

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Tagmatium wrote:Yet, there are many examples of what might be termed "racism" from across history - such as the ever-prevalent presection of the Jews.

Arguably, that's also has a religious basis, too, but they were certainly defined as "other" based beyond just their religion.

Do you have much in the way of sources that would suggest that racism is an invention of imperialism? Whilst I tend to dislike throwing around the "Source!" thing, I'm genuinely interested. I can't really think of any examples off the top of my head to counter what you're saying, mind. I've got a vague recollection of comments by Anna Komnena in the Alexiad about Seljuks and the love of wine particular to their race, but I'm, again, unsure as to whether one could truly make the claim that it is racist, and not more of a religious angle.

Plus, a quick skim through that particular book didn't furnish me with any notable examples.

You make a point, that there was racism before imperialism; I spoke far too soon, and far too absolutely. What I meant to say was that it really took off with imperialism.

You can see in the wiki page on racism, that what existed in antiquity was vague, and related more to nationalism than racism; however, as exploration and conquest of Africa began, it was changed more to racism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#In_history

Ah, OK.

We're on the same page, now.

Thank you for your explanation.

I'd also probably agree with you.
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