Good for you for not saying the "P" word.
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by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:53 am
by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:53 am
Eisernes-Adler wrote:
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:53 am
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:54 am
by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:54 am
Republic of Coldwater wrote:If those crazy socialists won.
by Republic of Coldwater » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:54 am
by Baathist arabia » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:55 am
by European Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:55 am
Eisernes-Adler wrote:What would you be doing, would you even have been born?
by Jetan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:55 am
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:55 am
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Really, anyone who isn't Asian or "Aryan" would be screwed over. Blacks and Jews would be enslaved by the totalitarian grasp of the Nazis. That isn't the world anyone really wants.
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:56 am
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:56 am
by Baathist arabia » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:56 am
Eisernes-Adler wrote:Republic of Coldwater wrote:Really, anyone who isn't Asian or "Aryan" would be screwed over. Blacks and Jews would be enslaved by the totalitarian grasp of the Nazis. That isn't the world anyone really wants.
Not essentially.
Hitler gave clemency to almost 20,000+ Jews during peacetime.
It was only during wartime that he became....different.
by Republic of Coldwater » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:57 am
by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:57 am
Eisernes-Adler wrote:Are you Portuguese or Brazillian?
by Baathist arabia » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:58 am
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:¬¬
Yeah, sure. Fascism and socialism are totally compatible, let alone part of the same thing.
Hitler actually expanded welfare programs and spread the wealth around, and also taxed the heck out of the businesses. His policies were pretty Keynesian, and then spent it all on the military and welfare. Sometimes, people were taxed up to 98% of their income. Hitler nationalized all industries and took over many sectors and also sent many competitors to the state out of business. He was pretty socialist...definitely not a "Far-Right Extremist" like how some people on the left call him.
by Baiynistan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:58 am
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:59 am
by Baathist arabia » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:59 am
Baiynistan wrote:There's no point pondering on "what if"s when those hypotheticals are infeasible. The Axis simply didn't have the resources to maintain a war on multiple fronts. The fascists tried to conquer too much and in the end lost everything ('cept Spain until the 70s...).
And, even if Hitler had listened to the advice of his generals and stayed out of Russia, resolving to hold territories gained in Western Europe, I think international resistance networks and the generally self-consuming nature of national socialism would have brought down the Axis within a couple of decades anyway.
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:59 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Eisernes-Adler wrote:Are you Portuguese or Brazillian?
Depends on the definition. Ethnically I'm Brazilian, culturally I can have far more Portuguese influences than usual and am probably on the 5% of most Lusophile people here but I'm essentially Brazilian still, nevertheless linguistically and by descent I'm an in-between in my own right.
But, why?
by Republic of Coldwater » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:59 am
Eisernes-Adler wrote:Republic of Coldwater wrote:Really, anyone who isn't Asian or "Aryan" would be screwed over. Blacks and Jews would be enslaved by the totalitarian grasp of the Nazis. That isn't the world anyone really wants.
Not essentially.
Hitler gave clemency to almost 20,000+ Jews during peacetime.
It was only during wartime that he became....different.
by Jetan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:00 am
by Eisernes-Adler » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:00 am
Baathist arabia wrote:Baiynistan wrote:There's no point pondering on "what if"s when those hypotheticals are infeasible. The Axis simply didn't have the resources to maintain a war on multiple fronts. The fascists tried to conquer too much and in the end lost everything ('cept Spain until the 70s...).
And, even if Hitler had listened to the advice of his generals and stayed out of Russia, resolving to hold territories gained in Western Europe, I think international resistance networks and the generally self-consuming nature of national socialism would have brought down the Axis within a couple of decades anyway.
if the nazis invaded Britain and performed and planned better in russia they would've won. and subjugating the russian territories would render the Reich invulnerable.
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