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If a UK general election were held today in Northern Ireland, who would you vote for?

Democratic Unionist Party
17
14%
Sinn Fein
46
37%
Social Democratic and Labour Party
8
6%
Ulster Unionist Party
12
10%
Alliance
8
6%
Traditional Unionist Voice
1
1%
Greens
14
11%
NI21
1
1%
UKIP
13
10%
Other (please specify)
5
4%
 
Total votes : 125

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Quintium
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Postby Quintium » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:19 am

Ulster Unionist Party, if only because the best British politician since Winston Churchill was part of it once.
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Alf Landon
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Postby Alf Landon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:22 am

Quintium wrote:Ulster Unionist Party, if only because the best British politician since Winston Churchill was part of it once.


I take it you're referring to Powell?

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Postby Quintium » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:24 am

Alf Landon wrote:
Quintium wrote:Ulster Unionist Party, if only because the best British politician since Winston Churchill was part of it once.


I take it you're referring to Powell?


Of course I am.
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Gold state
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Postby Gold state » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:27 am

The only thing stopping me voting for Sinn fein is...

Aren't they somehow related to the provisional IRA?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject.
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Alf Landon
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Postby Alf Landon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:27 am

Quintium wrote:
Alf Landon wrote:
I take it you're referring to Powell?


Of course I am.


I think we shall just have to agree to disagree on Enoch. Sufficed to say, I don't exactly consider him a great politician, let alone the best since Churchill.

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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:28 am

Alf Landon wrote:That'd be a unique way of solving it. :P

And then...

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
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Nay, Protholicism is the only answer.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:29 am

Gold state wrote:The only thing stopping me voting for Sinn fein is...

Aren't they somehow related to the provisional IRA?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject.
Yeah, several members of Sinn Fein most likely were affiliated with the IRA during the troubles, some probably still are (although not the likes of Real IRA and those other idiots), and some suggest some of them were members but put down their arms in the later years of the troubles to take part in the peace process.

Although the vast majority shunned the IRA later in the troubles and went in favour of peaceful means.
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Alf Landon
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Postby Alf Landon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:30 am

Gold state wrote:The only thing stopping me voting for Sinn fein is...

Aren't they somehow related to the provisional IRA?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject.


That's a whole other can of worms. Some say Sinn Fein is a peaceful movement and so shunned ties with PIRA. Others say they were joined at the hip. It's a pretty divisive question.

Fortunately, unless you're a Unionist hardliner, most people don't think Sinn Fein have anything more to do with terrorists. They stand in opposition to the post-PIRA groups.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:33 am

Alf Landon wrote:
Gold state wrote:The only thing stopping me voting for Sinn fein is...

Aren't they somehow related to the provisional IRA?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject.


That's a whole other can of worms. Some say Sinn Fein is a peaceful movement and so shunned ties with PIRA. Others say they were joined at the hip. It's a pretty divisive question.

Fortunately, unless you're a Unionist hardliner, most people don't think Sinn Fein have anything more to do with terrorists. They stand in opposition to the post-PIRA groups.

Yeah this pretty much, im a bit tired so thats why my post above has so many edits. Clarifying things etc
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Alf Landon
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Postby Alf Landon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:37 am

I'm amused that, predictably given the UK general election poll, that UKIP is polling well here atm. Methinks that may not be an accurate representation of UKIP's strength in N.I. :P

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Gold state
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Postby Gold state » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:39 am

Alf Landon wrote:
Gold state wrote:The only thing stopping me voting for Sinn fein is...

Aren't they somehow related to the provisional IRA?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject.


That's a whole other can of worms. Some say Sinn Fein is a peaceful movement and so shunned ties with PIRA. Others say they were joined at the hip. It's a pretty divisive question.

Fortunately, unless you're a Unionist hardliner, most people don't think Sinn Fein have anything more to do with terrorists. They stand in opposition to the post-PIRA groups.


I can't vote anyway.

Unfortunately...

You may want to a take a look at my sig, for the reason why.
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Alf Landon
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Postby Alf Landon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:42 am

Gold state wrote:
Alf Landon wrote:
That's a whole other can of worms. Some say Sinn Fein is a peaceful movement and so shunned ties with PIRA. Others say they were joined at the hip. It's a pretty divisive question.

Fortunately, unless you're a Unionist hardliner, most people don't think Sinn Fein have anything more to do with terrorists. They stand in opposition to the post-PIRA groups.


I can't vote anyway.

Unfortunately...

You may want to a take a look at my sig, for the reason why.


Well I can't vote in N.I. either, but when has not being directly connected to an issue ever stopped people in NSG from debating it ad nauseam. :P
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United Marxist Nations
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:43 am

I suppose Sinn Fein.
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Gold state
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Postby Gold state » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:47 am

Alf Landon wrote:
Gold state wrote:
I can't vote anyway.

Unfortunately...

You may want to a take a look at my sig, for the reason why.


Well I can't vote in N.I. either, but when has not being directly connected to an issue ever stopped people in NSG from debating it ad nauseam. :P



People think my generation aren't smart...

Think again...

Because i was born in 1999, who's with me!

*Raises fist*]
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:52 am

Alf Landon wrote:
Gold state wrote:The only thing stopping me voting for Sinn fein is...

Aren't they somehow related to the provisional IRA?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject.


That's a whole other can of worms. Some say Sinn Fein is a peaceful movement and so shunned ties with PIRA. Others say they were joined at the hip. It's a pretty divisive question.

Fortunately, unless you're a Unionist hardliner, most people don't think Sinn Fein have anything more to do with terrorists. They stand in opposition to the post-PIRA groups.

PIRA doesn't really bother me, though I prefer OIRA.
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Alf Landon
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Postby Alf Landon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:52 am

Gold state wrote:
Alf Landon wrote:
Well I can't vote in N.I. either, but when has not being directly connected to an issue ever stopped people in NSG from debating it ad nauseam. :P



People think my generation aren't smart...

Think again...

Because i was born in 1999, who's with me!

*Raises fist*]


Now I just feel old.

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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:57 am

SDLP I suppose. I would prefer Sinn Fein since I don't approve of the UK Labour party, plus they seem further to the left, but they don't take their seats in Westminster. So there isn't any point of voting Sinn Fein in these elections, because it's no longer the 1920s.
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Quintium
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Postby Quintium » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:10 am

Gold state wrote:People think my generation aren't smart...


And they're not. No entire generation in world history has been smart.
A large share of the population has always lacked functional literacy, and I suppose a vast majority of the world's population has an IQ below 100.
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United Marxist Nations
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:16 am

Quintium wrote:
Gold state wrote:People think my generation aren't smart...


And they're not. No entire generation in world history has been smart.
A large share of the population has always lacked functional literacy, and I suppose a vast majority of the world's population has an IQ below 100.

That's impossible, because 100 is always the average, as in, it is set as the average no matter what..
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Luveria
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Postby Luveria » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:17 am

Which of these parties are the most socially progressive...?

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United Marxist Nations
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:20 am

Luveria wrote:Which of these parties are the most socially progressive...?

The Left Wing parties are pretty socially progressive.
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Quintium
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Postby Quintium » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:20 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Quintium wrote:
And they're not. No entire generation in world history has been smart.
A large share of the population has always lacked functional literacy, and I suppose a vast majority of the world's population has an IQ below 100.

That's impossible, because 100 is always the average, as in, it is set as the average no matter what..


Average =! median.
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Luveria
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Postby Luveria » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:21 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Luveria wrote:Which of these parties are the most socially progressive...?

The Left Wing parties are pretty socially progressive.


Which one is the most socially progressive? I'm generally a single-issue voter because until people like me stop being legally oppressed, I can't be bothered to care about much other issues.

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Northern Ireland poll

Postby Socialist communist » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:22 am

Gold state wrote:
Alf Landon wrote:
1) The nationalist hardliners want all of Northern Ireland united with the south. Giving autonomy to Catholic areas would also in effect give more autonomy to the Protestant areas, thus entrenching Protestant control and putting up a new barrier to unification. Thus, nationalist hardliners would oppose.
2) The Protestants would go crazy. Special rights to the Catholics they'd say, and they'd consider it a threat to the existence of an entire Northern Ireland under British rule.
3) The British, seeing this, want to avoid causing these kind of divisions.
4) After years of years of fighting in the Troubles, it's clear that no one side is going to win over the other. The way forward is to bring the two communities together, and not to start entrenching the divide by handing out autonomy.


I say, we make it law that all people must be a Cathostant!

you fascist nowone has the right to tell people what to follow as a religon

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United Marxist Nations
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:22 am

Quintium wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:That's impossible, because 100 is always the average, as in, it is set as the average no matter what..


Average =! median.

If it were either, it would still be impossible for the vast majority to be under 100; if it were median, it would be 50/50.
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