Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Luveria]

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes.

Gosh, I get it. Using lube is wrong! Is that your argument?

[Vashta Nerada]

Two men cannot have children. Nor can two women. That's a fact. Not my opinion.

So, a woman or man who is sterile can not have children no matter how many members of the opposite sex they mate with.
Should we ban them for having sex and throw them in jail and stip them of human rights for being "unnatural" too?

Then they wouldn't be able to have casual sex, which by your's or another statement, is perfectly natural.

[Liriena]

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

Again, evolution doesn't optimize.

[The Scientific States]

Usually people admit they're wrong if they've been proven wrong hundreds of times. It's "natural."

[Dragoria]

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

Vaginal sex can hurt if you do that wrong too. Childbirth hurts no matter what.

[The Scientific States]

So, a woman or man who is sterile can not have children no matter how many members of the opposite sex they mate with.
Should we ban them for having sex and throw them in jail and stip them of human rights for being "unnatural" too?

Then they wouldn't be able to have casual sex, which by your's or another statement, is perfectly natural.

Why isn't it natural? People have done it since the beginning of man.

[Luveria]

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

Again, evolution doesn't optimize.

Sure it does. Human society is a product of evolution. Now we have lubes to make anal sex more enjoyable.

[Vashta Nerada]

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

Again, evolution doesn't optimize.

No, it only supports one group's statements, and then when they run into a wall they can't explain, "evolution didn't optimize this." If it can't optimize, then why so many detailed traits in humans? Either it did or it didn't optimize. Your point is moot.

[Gravlen]

I missed that bit. Why wouldn't sanctions accomplish anything?

Their main export is oil.
It's unlikely that we'd be able to get china and russia to back an embargo, and any attempts by the west to embargo would result in china swooping in.

You don't have to have an embargo, and you don't need to target oil. As I've said, there's plenty of tools in the toolbox.

- Refuse to export technology to Nigeria. Hurts their telecom industry and their space industry.
- Refuse to invest in Nigerian businesses. Hurts their economy.
- Move factories to other countries. Both Peugeot and GM can find better places for equally low pay, I'm sure.
- Refuse to import Nigerian food, textiles, and plastics.
- Hinder travel by Nigerian officials. Refuse to let them fly over Europe or North America.
- Freeze assets of Nigerian officials whom may be guilty of crimes against humanity through the enforcement of this legislation.
- Scale back diplomatic relations.
- Cut aid to the government.

See? We haven't reached the oil industry yet, and there's still plenty of things to do.

[The Scientific States]

Again, evolution doesn't optimize.

No, it only supports one group's statements, and then when they run into a wall they can't explain, "evolution didn't optimize this." If it can't optimize, then why so many detailed traits in humans? Either it did or it didn't optimize. Your point is moot.

Do you know what evolution is?

[Dragoria]

So, a woman or man who is sterile can not have children no matter how many members of the opposite sex they mate with.
Should we ban them for having sex and throw them in jail and stip them of human rights for being "unnatural" too?

Then they wouldn't be able to have casual sex, which by your's or another statement, is perfectly natural.

Yes, casual sex is perfectly natural. As long as all parties involved are consenting there's no reason to ban any kind of sex.
"random person on the internet thinks it's icky" is not a reason to ban something.

[Vashta Nerada]

Their main export is oil.
It's unlikely that we'd be able to get china and russia to back an embargo, and any attempts by the west to embargo would result in china swooping in.

You don't have to have an embargo, and you don't need to target oil. As I've said, there's plenty of tools in the toolbox.

- Refuse to export technology to Nigeria. Hurts their telecom industry and their space industry.
- Refuse to invest in Nigerian businesses. Hurts their economy.
- Move factories to other countries. Both Peugeot and GM can find better places for equally low pay, I'm sure.
- Refuse to import Nigerian food, textiles, and plastics.
- Hinder travel by Nigerian officials. Refuse to let them fly over Europe or North America.
- Freeze assets of Nigerian officials whom may be guilty of crimes against humanity through the enforcement of this legislation.
- Scale back diplomatic relations.
- Cut aid to the government.

See? We haven't reached the oil industry yet, and there's still plenty of things to do.

They'll just turn to China or Russia who support them and will provide all of those things. No longer do we live in a world dominated by the West exclusively. Either the West supports them or the East will.

[Luveria]

Again, evolution doesn't optimize.

No, it only supports one group's statements, and then when they run into a wall they can't explain, "evolution didn't optimize this." If it can't optimize, then why so many detailed traits in humans? Either it did or it didn't optimize. Your point is moot.

You don't understand evolution basics.

Evolution doesn't need to optimize, ever. Evolution is merely organisms gradually adapting to survive in their environment. Nowhere is optimization required for that.

[San]

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

My logic is based on the fact that I view sex as something that only a man and a woman should perform together. I view it as both a bonding and reproductive act. The penis and vagina work will together because that's how they were made. Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.

1) anal sex isn't exclusively homosexual
2) homosexual sex isn't exclusively anal
3) sex is often for casual purposes
4) none of this holds any relevance to how homosexuality is inherently ebul

ignoring things is your strong suit, i see

[The Scientific States]

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

1) anal sex isn't exclusively homosexual
2) homosexual sex isn't exclusively anal
3) sex is often for casual purposes
4) none of this holds any relevance to how homosexuality is inherently ebul

ignoring things is your strong suit, i see

He ignored at least 10 of my posts.

I'm not even going to bother spending 20 minutes compiling all the posts he ignored, just so he can ignore that post.

[Luveria]

You don't have to have an embargo, and you don't need to target oil. As I've said, there's plenty of tools in the toolbox.

- Refuse to export technology to Nigeria. Hurts their telecom industry and their space industry.
- Refuse to invest in Nigerian businesses. Hurts their economy.
- Move factories to other countries. Both Peugeot and GM can find better places for equally low pay, I'm sure.
- Refuse to import Nigerian food, textiles, and plastics.
- Hinder travel by Nigerian officials. Refuse to let them fly over Europe or North America.
- Freeze assets of Nigerian officials whom may be guilty of crimes against humanity through the enforcement of this legislation.
- Scale back diplomatic relations.
- Cut aid to the government.

See? We haven't reached the oil industry yet, and there's still plenty of things to do.

They'll just turn to China or Russia who support them and will provide all of those things. No longer do we live in a world dominated by the West exclusively. Either the West supports them or the East will.

Yes we do. The US remains the only superpower and has over half the world's military spending.

[Luveria]

ignoring things is your strong suit, i see

He ignored at least 10 of my posts.

I'm not even going to bother spending 20 minutes compiling all the posts he ignored, just so he can ignore that post.

Vashta appears to be having difficulty multitasking with posts like everyone else can. Maybe because he can't prove those posts wrong it makes it difficult.

[Vashta Nerada]

No, it only supports one group's statements, and then when they run into a wall they can't explain, "evolution didn't optimize this." If it can't optimize, then why so many detailed traits in humans? Either it did or it didn't optimize. Your point is moot.

You don't understand evolution basics.

Evolution doesn't need to optimize, ever. Evolution is merely organisms gradually adapting to survive in their environment. Nowhere is optimization required for that.

So evolution doesn't need to optimize as its geared toward survival. Then why can enjoy one form of sex, but not enjoy another form of sex that we also consider enjoyable?

[The Scientific States]

He ignored at least 10 of my posts.

I'm not even going to bother spending 20 minutes compiling all the posts he ignored, just so he can ignore that post.

Vashta appears to be having difficulty multitasking with posts like everyone else can. Maybe because he can't prove those posts wrong it makes it difficult.

Silly Luv, answering every post is "unnatural." Because people weren't meant to multitask.

[Dragoria]

You don't understand evolution basics.

Evolution doesn't need to optimize, ever. Evolution is merely organisms gradually adapting to survive in their environment. Nowhere is optimization required for that.

So evolution doesn't need to optimize as its geared toward survival. Then why can enjoy one form of sex, but not enjoy another form of sex that we also consider enjoyable?

You need to reword that, what you're asking is unclear.
I'm guessing that you're asking why some people enjoy one type of sex that others don't? Because different people like different things. Some people like spicy food, some don't.

Edit: Typo, I'm hungry.

[Markostania]

Is this flaming?

Ask in moderation.

What is Patagonia?

[Vashta Nerada]

Vashta appears to be having difficulty multitasking with posts like everyone else can. Maybe because he can't prove those posts wrong it makes it difficult.

Silly Luv, answering every post is "unnatural." Because people weren't meant to multitask.

Your attacking one guy who's trying to respond to six. That's kinda difficult. Your not multitasking, your just sharing the "burden".

[San]

ignoring things is your strong suit, i see

He ignored at least 10 of my posts.

I'm not even going to bother spending 20 minutes compiling all the posts he ignored, just so he can ignore that post.

ignoring things while having responded to them, however, is an art form he thrives in.

[Gravlen]

You don't have to have an embargo, and you don't need to target oil. As I've said, there's plenty of tools in the toolbox.

- Refuse to export technology to Nigeria. Hurts their telecom industry and their space industry.
- Refuse to invest in Nigerian businesses. Hurts their economy.
- Move factories to other countries. Both Peugeot and GM can find better places for equally low pay, I'm sure.
- Refuse to import Nigerian food, textiles, and plastics.
- Hinder travel by Nigerian officials. Refuse to let them fly over Europe or North America.
- Freeze assets of Nigerian officials whom may be guilty of crimes against humanity through the enforcement of this legislation.
- Scale back diplomatic relations.
- Cut aid to the government.

See? We haven't reached the oil industry yet, and there's still plenty of things to do.

They'll just turn to China or Russia who support them and will provide all of those things. No longer do we live in a world dominated by the West exclusively. Either the West supports them or the East will.

Then let them. Seriously. We'll give them the chance to choose the right path, but if they would choose to turn away from the west in order to continue to violate fundamental human rights, then fuck'em.

[The Scientific States]

Silly Luv, answering every post is "unnatural." Because people weren't meant to multitask.

Your attacking one guy who's trying to respond to six. That's kinda difficult.

It's not hard. Most NS'ers have been in this situation, and most of them are fine at it.

You know you can respond to more than one post at a time, right?