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Which party will / would you vote for?

Party of the European Left
47
27%
European Green Party
8
5%
Party of European Socialists
36
21%
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe
18
10%
European Democratic Party
5
3%
European People's Party
11
6%
Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists
30
17%
Movement for a Europe of Liberties and Democracy
8
5%
Other (please specify)
11
6%
 
Total votes : 174

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European election 2014

Postby Ariddia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:45 pm

In May 2014, citizens of the 28 member countries of the European Union will be electing their representatives to the European Parliament.

The Parliament controls the UE budget, but other than that its powers are limited. It adopts legislation, but bills are introduced solely by the indirectly elected European Commission - which, however, normally accepts to introduce bills requested by MEPs. Parliament's ability to modify those bills is limited. And it has to share legislative power with the unelected Council of Ministers.

Nevertheless, it is the only direct opportunity for EU citizens to have a say in EU matters, other than through national elections.

European parties are conglomerates of national parties. From left to right, they are:

- The Party of the European Left.
Strongly left-wing, ranging from social-democrats to communists. It includes in particular Die Linke (Germany), the Left Front (France), and Syriza (Greece). (No British party is a member.) Its President is French Communist Pierre Laurent, but its leader going into this election is Greek Alexis Tsipras, whose party came a close second in the latest Greek elections.
It is a broadly anti-capitalist party, Europhile but campaigning for a more socially-oriented Europe, more respectful of the environment.

- The European Green Party.
Green; generally centre-left. Like the Party of the European Left, they support more social justice and more democracy, and of course far more focus on environmental issues.

- The Party of European Socialists.
Centre-left. Social-democrats. It includes, among others, Germany's SDP, France's Socialist Party, the UK's Labour Party, and Spain's Socialist Workers' Party (Zapatero's party). Led by Germany's Martin Schulz, of the SPD.
Its objective is to "redesign the European Union" and "build a Social Union", with a "social market economy".

- The European Free Alliance.
Small party bringing together regionalists, regional separatists and pro-autonomy movements from across Europe.

- The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe.
Liberals, in the broadest sense. Ranging basically from the centre-left to the centre-right. Currently led by former Belgian PM Guy Verhofstadt, and by a British MEP from the UK's Liberal Democrats. It also includes Germany's FDP and Ireland's Fianna Fail. (No French party is a member.)

- The European Democratic Party.
Centrist and centre-right; Europhile. Based mainly around France's Democratic Movement, led by François Bayrou. (No German or British parties are members.)
Its main aim is to promote further European integration, around the model of a "social market economy".

- EUDemocrats.
Small party of broadly centrist or centre-right Eurosceptics.

- European People's Party.
Centre-right. Currently the largest party in the European Parliament. Includes in particular Germany's CDU/CSU, France's UMP, Spain's Partido Popular (Rajoy's party), Italy's PdL (Berlusconi's party), Greece's New Democracy (the governing party in Greece), and Ireland's Fine Gael. (No British party is a member.) Led by France's Joseph Daul (UMP).
Supports a consolidation of the European Single Market, greater political integration and expansion, and the values of "freedom and responsibility" with some measure of solidarity.

- Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists.
Centre-right to right-wing. Eurosceptic. Promotes economic liberalism. In favour of closer relations with the US, and opposed to further European political integration. Includes in particular the UK's Conservative Party, and Poland's Law and Justice Party. (No German or French parties are members.)

- European Christian Political Movement.
Very small party of Christian conservatives.

- Movement for a Europe of Liberties and Democracy.
Nationalist, Eurosceptic, strongly right-wing. Includes in particular Italy's Northern League. (No German or British parties are members.)

- In addition, there are MEPs who are not a member of any European party. These are mostly members of national far-right parties. They include the Netherlands' Party for Freedom (Wilders' party), Austria's FPÖ, France's National Front, and the UK's BNP and UKIP. The various far-right parties appear to be coalescing into loose and flexible pan-European groupings.

Whom will you be voting for? (Or whom would you vote for if you were a European citizen?)

I'll be following the election campaign, but my vote will almost certainly go to the Party of the European Left. I support strengthening and harmonising social legislation across Europe, partly out of simple social justice, and partly so that big businesses can no longer go and exploit workers in one EU country while destroying jobs in countries with higher levels of social protection. Similarly, I would be in favour of a form of flexible European "protectionism", which would restrict or tax imports from countries external to the EU which do not respect basic social and environmental norms. It's abhorrent that countries like Bangladesh or China can force the EU to import cheap good that have been produced by exploiting workers, ignoring basic health and safety norms in the workplace, and utterly disregarding the impact of production on the environment. It endangers people's health in the country of origin, damages the environment, and creates unfair, unequal competition on European markets. Which leads to the outrageous argument that we in Europe need to reduce our own production costs so as to be competitive against such imports...
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:47 pm

The Party of European Socialists sound good, as do the European Liberals and Democrats.

Really any group that is centre left to centre is fine with me.
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Postby Nostharia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:03 pm

The Party of European Socialists sounds best, followed by The European Democratic Party. As a last resort, I suppose Icould tolerate The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe.

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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:04 pm

PES works best for me.

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:07 pm

PES or ALDE.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Likely the Left.

Because there's no fucking way I'm voting for Renzi's party.
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:37 pm

Movement for a Europe of Liberties and Democracy

Europe deserves freedom and independence, the forced collective nature of the EU is dangerous and the enemy of the modern nation state. I also support the other far right parties not affiliated in any major party in the EU parliament
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:40 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:Movement for a Europe of Liberties and Democracy

Europe deserves freedom and independence, the forced collective nature of the EU is dangerous and the enemy of the modern nation state. I also support the other far right parties not affiliated in any major party in the EU parliament

How is the EU forced in any way? Your individual governments chose to join it.
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Postby Nervium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:44 pm

The Left it shall be.
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:44 pm

Geilinor wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:Movement for a Europe of Liberties and Democracy

Europe deserves freedom and independence, the forced collective nature of the EU is dangerous and the enemy of the modern nation state. I also support the other far right parties not affiliated in any major party in the EU parliament

How is the EU forced in any way? Your individual governments chose to join it.


The "governments" chose to, but the EU is dangerous because it discourages nationalism and encourages dangerous economic polices and fiscal irresponsibility. Living standards will only decrease for everyday citizens in all member states of the EU.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:48 pm

Party of the European Left sounds nice.

Although I could've sworn the far-left party was called European United Left–Nordic Green Left.... Must have mistaken them for a different type of party.
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Postby Nysland » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:48 pm

If I was European, I would vote Party of the European Left.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:48 pm

The UK Conservative Party, so by extention the Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists. To be honest though, I prefer the European People's Party. However, I am too young to vote, sadly.
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Postby Densaner » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:49 pm

UKIP for me. And any other anti EU parties on the ballot.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:49 pm

If I had to choose: Party of European Socialists
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Postby Sahrani South » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 pm

Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists sounds quite good.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 pm

Even though I'm generally left-leaning, I'll be voting Conservative because I'm a eurosceptic and want to support the most reasonably-minded eurosceptic grouping. I cannot in good conscience vote for a pro federalising party. If there was a party in my country who were part of the EUDemocrats faction, I'd feel less like I was having to hold my nose when voting.
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Postby Aeken » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:51 pm

PES sounds nice.

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Postby Sahrani South » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:52 pm

Though I hope the Pirates will be on the ballot.
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Postby Kemalist » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:55 pm

I would vote for PES. I'm technically affiliated with it; as my party is an associate member, hope will be a full one soon.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Even though I'm generally left-leaning, I'll be voting Conservative because I'm a eurosceptic and want to support the most reasonably-minded eurosceptic grouping. I cannot in good conscience vote for a pro federalising party. If there was a party in my country who were part of the EUDemocrats faction, I'd feel less like I was having to hold my nose when voting.

What do you think of the European Free Alliance?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:03 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Even though I'm generally left-leaning, I'll be voting Conservative because I'm a eurosceptic and want to support the most reasonably-minded eurosceptic grouping. I cannot in good conscience vote for a pro federalising party. If there was a party in my country who were part of the EUDemocrats faction, I'd feel less like I was having to hold my nose when voting.

What do you think of the European Free Alliance?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Alliance


...it sounds okay. I'm more a fan of devolutionary movements than those who seek full independence, but their hearts seem to be broadly in the right place.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:05 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Geilinor wrote:How is the EU forced in any way? Your individual governments chose to join it.


The "governments" chose to, but the EU is dangerous because it discourages nationalism and encourages dangerous economic polices and fiscal irresponsibility. Living standards will only decrease for everyday citizens in all member states of the EU.

Then on the opposite side of too much nationalism, you get a bunch of separatist parties, like the European Free Alliance.
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Postby Sahrani South » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:06 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:What do you think of the European Free Alliance?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Alliance


...it sounds okay. I'm more a fan of devolutionary movements than those who seek full independence, but their hearts seem to be broadly in the right place.


In your place I would vote European Left Party, as the German LEFT PARTY is the most eurosceptic in the german parliament, though I don't know about the other foreign member parties.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:11 pm

Sahrani South wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
...it sounds okay. I'm more a fan of devolutionary movements than those who seek full independence, but their hearts seem to be broadly in the right place.


In your place I would vote European Left Party, as the German LEFT PARTY is the most eurosceptic in the german parliament, though I don't know about the other foreign member parties.

I'm pretty sure Die Linke is pro-EU, although for a different kind of EU than we have now.
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