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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:14 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
The problem here is that perhaps you are confusing my words.

What you are comparing homosexuality to (cheating, stealing, lying) is not comparable. You are comparing apples and oranges.

However, to answer your question yes, cannibalism is natural to humans as well. The fact we have rationally condemned the practice speaks of us as social creatures vying for survival, not as much as for our nature.


So, if people like the taste of human flesh, isn't that discriminating to tell them they cannot have it because that is "inappropriate." Some people consider gay rights non-existant and some support it. It boils down to opinion, not really sound logic. You have your opinion and I have mine. That is were the story ends. I'll never be able to convince you otherwise and you will not convince me either.


It's not that it is inappropriate, it is that someone was harmed in order for them to access the human flesh. Homosexuality, and recognition of homosexual marriages harms no one.
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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:14 pm

Hungaristan wrote:@Valcouria: You realize if everyone was straight that our population would increase exponentially and create overcrowding, famine, disease, war, and death.
So, for the sake of the rest of the "Pure, non-sinners" can you please allow the buttfucking to continue.
I am sure you wouldn't want to share your home with 600 people because there aren't any homes left

I don't see how sexuality contributes to overcrowding. Homosexuals can reproduce.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:14 pm

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Because sexual pleasure is evil, and it's ok if you enter a marriage with a partner that don't get you pleasure. But what matters if women are not satisfied since their orgasm isn't need for procreation, alrighty? :roll:

If this was all true, people who just do not believe in God or change their religion would not be killed.


Again, integrity. That's all I have to say.

The Fascist American Empire wrote:Christianity in a nutshell. Wow, not a lot of difference except our extremists aren't… Wait, never mind. I forgot about that one guy here. Valcournia or something like that.


Nooo. Islam is not like Christianity. At all. And the extremists aren't real Muslims. They're just very, very troubled people.

And our extremists aren't real Christians, Just psychopaths who think they are. Westborough Baptist Church being a prime example.
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Postby Absurrania » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:15 pm

Damn it, despite my best efforst, I got myself dragged into yet another gay vs anti-gay debate.
I don't support NM law, or LGBT rights in general, nor will I ever support them, god willing. It's against my religion, and against my moral beliefs. Many of you will disagree, and there is nothing I can do about that. . And with that, ladies, gentlemen, and those sorry folks stuck in between, I officially take my leave from this conversation.

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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:15 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Western Europe seems to be doing just fine, even though same-sex marriage is legal in almost every single country there. Hell, Europe is doing better than homophobic places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Still believe in bullshit conspiracies about homosexuality destroying the world?

Of course I do; the rest of the world that has not been tainted by that particular sin seems to still be religiously faithful and not corrupted by overt sinful influences.

Just look at beautiful Central African Republic, so religious and...oh nevermind.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:16 pm

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UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights wrote:Article 16

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:16 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Western Europe seems to be doing just fine, even though same-sex marriage is legal in almost every single country there. Hell, Europe is doing better than homophobic places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Still believe in bullshit conspiracies about homosexuality destroying the world?

Of course I do; the rest of the world that has not been tainted by that particular sin seems to still be religiously faithful and not corrupted by overt sinful influences.

Then explain why Europe has the best economic situation in the world and why Europe thrives while theocracies suffer immensely? Why is it that the homophobic and vastly religious Middle East has war and terrorism while the secular and tolerant Europe is peaceful and prosperous?
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:16 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Not anymore, and if you don't like it, well, too fucking bad.

I intend to change that, somehow, one way or another, and I feel sure in saying that there are enough of a majority that will work toward the same goal.

64% of Americans support SSM. Heck, even 61% of the member of your church support it.

Your majority doesn't exist.
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Postby San » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:16 pm

Absurrania wrote:Damn it, despite my best efforst, I got myself dragged into yet another gay vs anti-gay debate.
I don't support NM law, or LGBT rights in general, nor will I ever support them, god willing. It's against my religion, and against my moral beliefs. Many of you will disagree, and there is nothing I can do about that. . And with that, ladies, gentlemen, and those sorry folks stuck in between, I officially take my leave from this conversation.

Once again, I appreciate your debating in a far more civil manner than we have come to expect from the anti-lgbt crowd.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:17 pm

Absurrania wrote:Damn it, despite my best efforst, I got myself dragged into yet another gay vs anti-gay debate.
I don't support NM law, or LGBT rights in general, nor will I ever support them, god willing. It's against my religion, and against my moral beliefs. Many of you will disagree, and there is nothing I can do about that. . And with that, ladies, gentlemen, and those sorry folks stuck in between, I officially take my leave from this conversation.

Prostitution is legal. Doesn't mean the country supports it. You know, you can actually separate your beliefs from doing what is right.
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Postby San » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:17 pm

Ainin wrote:
Valcouria wrote:I intend to change that, somehow, one way or another, and I feel sure in saying that there are enough of a majority that will work toward the same goal.

64% of Americans support SSM. Heck, even 61% of the member of your church support it.

Your majority doesn't exist.

he's a majority in his minority, that's gotta count for something, right?
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Postby Ruridova » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:17 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Western Europe seems to be doing just fine, even though same-sex marriage is legal in almost every single country there. Hell, Europe is doing better than homophobic places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Still believe in bullshit conspiracies about homosexuality destroying the world?

Of course I do; the rest of the world that has not been tainted by that particular sin seems to still be religiously faithful and not corrupted by overt sinful influences.

The GDP per capita of Belgium(where gay marriage is legal) is $12,000 higher than the GDP of Sudan(where homosexuality is punishable by death). Not to mention that Sudan, not Belgium, has been undergoing a vicious civil war for the past several decades, and that Belgium, not Sudan, contains the HQ for an international organization with economic clout and with militarily powerful members.

Somehow I can't believe that homosexuality causes society to collapse.
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Postby Hungaristan » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:17 pm

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Hungaristan wrote:@Valcouria: You realize if everyone was straight that our population would increase exponentially and create overcrowding, famine, disease, war, and death.
So, for the sake of the rest of the "Pure, non-sinners" can you please allow the buttfucking to continue.
I am sure you wouldn't want to share your home with 600 people because there aren't any homes left

I don't see how sexuality contributes to overcrowding. Homosexuals can reproduce.


Homosexuals tend to either donate sperm or adopt children.
This actually aids with population problems and helps society overall.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:17 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Absurrania wrote:
Again, integrity. That's all I have to say.



Nooo. Islam is not like Christianity. At all. And the extremists aren't real Muslims. They're just very, very troubled people.

And our extremists aren't real Christians, Just psychopaths who think they are. Westborough Baptist Church being a prime example.

No, they are real Christians, or at least in the loosest definition; they believe in God and hold that Jesus is his son. It's just they're crazy Christians.
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Neutraligon wrote:
Valcouria wrote:...Catching on, I see; we live our lives by the Grace of God, and should do so according to His divine will and in line with natural law that He created between one man and one woman. If one abuses this privilege...well, I've already said...


...wait, what happened to free will. This seems more Calvinistic then Roman Catholic...
Also, did you now there is an evolutionary advantage to homosexuality. Read the gay uncle theory.

Oh, there's free will alright; we can choose to either conform to God's will or (like open homosexuals and their supporters) regularly and deliberately flout them.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:18 pm

Absurrania wrote:Damn it, despite my best efforst, I got myself dragged into yet another gay vs anti-gay debate.
I don't support NM law, or LGBT rights in general, nor will I ever support them, god willing. It's against my religion, and against my moral beliefs. Many of you will disagree, and there is nothing I can do about that. . And with that, ladies, gentlemen, and those sorry folks stuck in between, I officially take my leave from this conversation.

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Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Absurrania wrote:Damn it, despite my best efforst, I got myself dragged into yet another gay vs anti-gay debate.
I don't support NM law, or LGBT rights in general, nor will I ever support them, god willing. It's against my religion, and against my moral beliefs. Many of you will disagree, and there is nothing I can do about that. . And with that, ladies, gentlemen, and those sorry folks stuck in between, I officially take my leave from this conversation.

Prostitution is legal. Doesn't mean the country supports it. You know, you can actually separate your beliefs from doing what is right.

That actually doesn't make sense.
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...wait, what happened to free will. This seems more Calvinistic then Roman Catholic...
Also, did you now there is an evolutionary advantage to homosexuality. Read the gay uncle theory.

Oh, there's free will alright; we can choose to either conform to God's will or (like open homosexuals and their supporters) regularly and deliberately flout them.

But God knew this would happen and thus, made people more susceptible to be "evil" and wrong.
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San wrote:
Ainin wrote:64% of Americans support SSM. Heck, even 61% of the member of your church support it.

Your majority doesn't exist.

he's a majority in his minority, that's gotta count for something, right?
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Hungaristan wrote:@Valcouria: You realize if everyone was straight that our population would increase exponentially and create overcrowding, famine, disease, war, and death.
So, for the sake of the rest of the "Pure, non-sinners" can you please allow the buttfucking to continue.
I am sure you wouldn't want to share your home with 600 people because there aren't any homes left

Ever heard of abstinence? Probably not, since modern society thinks that is pointless. People should be able to control their carnal urges, and if they can't, well...let's just say I support the reintroduction of the chastity belt for both genders.
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Valcouria wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
...wait, what happened to free will. This seems more Calvinistic then Roman Catholic...
Also, did you now there is an evolutionary advantage to homosexuality. Read the gay uncle theory.

Oh, there's free will alright; we can choose to either conform to God's will or (like open homosexuals and their supporters) regularly and deliberately flout them.

Flouting them is fun. No random sky wizard's going to tell me what to do.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:19 pm

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Rocopurr wrote:I don't see how sexuality contributes to overcrowding. Homosexuals can reproduce.


Homosexuals tend to either donate sperm or adopt children.
This actually aids with population problems and helps society overall.

Yes, I agree that adopting children does aid society, but just for the record, it does not count as reproduction. You're just taking care of some kid that somebody else was too either lazy to care for or just couldn't care for.

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Postby Ruridova » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:19 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Valcouria wrote:Oh, there's free will alright; we can choose to either conform to God's will or (like open homosexuals and their supporters) regularly and deliberately flout them.

But God knew this would happen and thus, made people more susceptible to be "evil" and wrong.

And somehow it's their fault...
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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:19 pm

Hungaristan wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:I don't see how sexuality contributes to overcrowding. Homosexuals can reproduce.


Homosexuals tend to either donate sperm or adopt children.
This actually aids with population problems and helps society overall.

I see how that helps overall, but I'm not getting how homosexuals help prevent an excess population. They can still reproduce by having surrogate babies.
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