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Was the School District Right in suspending the boy?

Yes, his suspension was deserved.
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No, the school district should not have suspended him.
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He deserved no punishment.
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He deserved a lesser punishment, like detention or counselling.
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He should have gotten a more severe punishment than a suspension.
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Postby Me-lek » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:18 am

i knew the American public school system was bad, but not THAT bad...
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:21 am

well, fox 'news'. but not far from my own experiences at that age, some 60 years ago.
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Postby Dremoria » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:22 am

Drawkland wrote:Article

If you TL;DR, here's the basics:

A boy in the first grade was in a reading group in class (Age 6), and kissed a girl on the hand. School authorities claim it was sexual harassment and suspended him. Parents say the girl was fine with it, the two kids are basically "boyfriend and girlfriend".

What do you think NSG? I think it's pathetic, and reflects how the school districts are run nowadays (badly). This is something that really shouldn't have happened, in my opinion.

And here's a video news report:

Fox News


I think it's absurd to say the least.

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Postby Sjovenia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:24 am

This is retarded....man my elementary school days in Aviano AFB, Italy in 2000-2003 were amazing! I mean other than coloring, nap time, eating.....the only other thing about school was the "drama of the day" ooooh Susie got kissed. Or hahahaha he likes you! But howadays these kids are in such a sheltered world, and so many things have gone wrong that it changes everything. And I mean everything changes from elementary school kids up to adults. Adults are more selfish now, teenagers saying stupid things like swag and YOLO. My middle school days in 2008 weren't like that. But now a senior in Highschool 2013 I've got to deal with stupid idiots talking about swag and yolo and gun control and Obama. I want to go back to the good old days. Heck event he 90s would have been the good ol days. Nowadays people are so messed up and confused and I don't know it's just so different from 5 years ago aNd not for the better either
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Postby Drawkland » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:26 am

I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"

Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.
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Postby Sjovenia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:27 am

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"

Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

Agreed
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:33 am

Sjovenia wrote:
Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"

Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

Agreed


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Postby Ishkken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:34 am

My generation was so much more sensible...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:36 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:*Shrug*.

The girl says she was fine with it...

According to the boy who was suspended.


Ishkken wrote:My generation was so much more sensible...

No they weren't.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:40 am

There's nothing wrong with this at all.
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Postby Ishkken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:*Shrug*.

The girl says she was fine with it...

According to the boy who was suspended.


Ishkken wrote:My generation was so much more sensible...

No they weren't.


Well-

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Yeah, alright, they weren't. In fact, no generation was ever sensible. Ever.
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Postby The Cadets » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:45 am

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What the fuck.

My thoughts exactly. :palm:

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Postby Cameroi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:54 am

Ishkken wrote:
Ifreann wrote:According to the boy who was suspended.



No they weren't.


Well-

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Yeah, alright, they weren't. In fact, no generation was ever sensible. Ever.


of course. just because we can lump people or things together into some catigory, like a generation, doesn't make them monolithic/homoginous within it.
diversity invariably prevails.

i'll pay attention to fox news, when it becomes news about foxes. the kind with four legs, pointy ears and noses, and fur.
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Postby Dremoria » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:55 am

Mizrah wrote:It is very good that this happened.

Sexual assault is greatly under-reported and young men develop these habits early on in life. This was a future sexual assaulter/rapist, and it was taken care of immediately.


Are you kidding me...?

If you're dead serious, the excess of insanity in that post is astounding.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:04 am

Ishkken wrote:
Ifreann wrote:According to the boy who was suspended.



No they weren't.


Well-

...

Yeah, alright, they weren't. In fact, no generation was ever sensible. Ever.

Pretty much. Not that this stops any of them from bemoaning "Kids these days! Back when I was there age..." once they get old enough
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Postby North East Ohio » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:08 am

Tekania wrote:As I'm only seeing the mother's claims here and what the schools acts were, I'll have to reserve judgement.

But on face value I would say a case of sexual harassment should necessitate that the behavior be harassing to the victim. As neither the girl or her parents seem to have said anything in the context of the article, I'm not about to assume whether it was interpreted that way or not. Parents are not reliable sources when it comes to a child's school related behavior.


This ^

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Postby Tumblr Isles » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:40 am

I'm okay with this.
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Postby Neoliberal Hellhole of Rio de Janeiro » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:42 am

Tumblr Isles wrote:I'm okay with this.

Why don't you get down from your reactionary ivory tower and stop mocking us?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:46 am

Neoliberal Hellhole of Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Tumblr Isles wrote:I'm okay with this.

Why don't you get down from your reactionary ivory tower and stop mocking us?

Where would the fun in that be?
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Postby Neoliberal Hellhole of Rio de Janeiro » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Neoliberal Hellhole of Rio de Janeiro wrote:Why don't you get down from your reactionary ivory tower and stop mocking us?

Where would the fun in that be?

Decency, tolerance, being not hypocritical and acknowledging true freedom and human rights issues?

Oh yes, indeed. This is to be nice rather than to find fun, but funny without purpose is immature and the forums have an age standard of 13 or older for a reason.

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Postby Person012345 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:10 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:A cheek kiss can harm nobody, except people who have psychological issues that involve going apeshit about being touched by other humans anywhere.

This should NEVER be regarded as sexual and even if the boy is a pest, they should leave the children to solve it between themselves as all other of us normal human beings had it someday, too.

No.

Clearly the first grader should not be suspended. At most he should be told not to do it, if the girl actually displays any displeasure at the action. Whoever decided to suspend him on this first offence (if it was) should be fired.

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Postby Person012345 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:11 am

Neoliberal Hellhole of Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Where would the fun in that be?

Decency, tolerance, being not hypocritical and acknowledging true freedom and human rights issues?

Oh yes, indeed. This is to be nice rather than to find fun, but funny without purpose is immature and the forums have an age standard of 13 or older for a reason.

That reason has nothing to do with maturity.

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Postby Union of Confederate Socialist Republics » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:15 am

Huffington Post?

Seems legit.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:23 am

Neoliberal Hellhole of Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Where would the fun in that be?

Decency, tolerance, being not hypocritical and acknowledging true freedom and human rights issues?

None of which have any relevance to this case of a child with a history of disciplinary problems finally getting suspended.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:32 am

Person012345 wrote:Whoever decided to suspend him on this first offence (if it was) should be fired.


It wasn't.
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