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First Grader Suspended on grounds of sexual harassment

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Was the School District Right in suspending the boy?

Yes, his suspension was deserved.
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4%
No, the school district should not have suspended him.
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He deserved no punishment.
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70%
He deserved a lesser punishment, like detention or counselling.
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He should have gotten a more severe punishment than a suspension.
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First Grader Suspended on grounds of sexual harassment

Postby Drawkland » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:26 pm

First Article

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Wall Street Journal Note: Wanders off the actual story into more political things, and several unrelated articles further down on the page.


If you TL;DR, here's the basics:

A boy in the first grade was in a reading group in class (Age 6), and kissed a girl on the hand. School authorities claim it was sexual harassment and suspended him. Parent of the boy in question says the girl was fine with it, the two kids are basically "boyfriend and girlfriend". Parent of girl in question says the school district was right in suspending the boy.
What do you think NSG? I think it's pathetic, and reflects how the school districts are run nowadays (badly). This is something that really shouldn't have happened, in my opinion.

And here's a video news report:

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Postby Resawa » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:29 pm

Drawkland wrote:Article

If you TL;DR, here's the basics:

A boy in the first grade was in a reading group in class (Age 6), and kissed a girl on the hand. School authorities claim it was sexual harassment and suspended him. Parents say the girl was fine with it, the two kids are basically "boyfriend and girlfriend".

What do you think NSG? I think it's pathetic, and reflects how the school districts are run nowadays (badly). This is something that really shouldn't have happened, in my opinion.

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Postby Belzia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:39 pm

this is just pathetic
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:40 pm

This is about like banning t-shirts with guns on it on the stupid scale.

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Postby Belzia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:43 pm

The kid's reaction in the article asking things like "what is sex mommy?" makes this all worse...
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Postby Meowfoundland » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:50 pm

So, so stupid.
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Postby Resawa » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:51 pm

I mean,I don't even think is counts as sexual assault, by any standards

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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:54 pm

I believe they put in that policy to combat bullying but this is just take things a bit too seriously.

Also, they are boyfriend and girlfriend only from the boys mothers POV.

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Postby Skeckoa » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:55 pm

Have millions of schools and one (beyond) questionable decision is bound to happen every now-and-then... That's just how it goes. So OP, I don't think that this is a testament to how crappy schools are, but just how crappy a decision was made by a school director. Unless this is consistently happening, be certain this is a one-time unfortunate event.
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Postby Republic of Trollandia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:59 pm

So dis kid got his first kiss with another girl when he was six, and I'm 14 now and I haven't even gone dating yet. I seriously don't think it's sexual assault though. Kids are like that, especially six year old ones.
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Postby The Republic of Llamas » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:00 pm

This is f*cking stupid. When I was a little kid, I pretended to be a knight and kissed girl friends on the hand often. You are indeed right; it's more or less indicative of the crappiness of the American school system, which is the world's most inefficient and sucks ATM.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:01 pm

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:01 pm

I see Zero Intelligence Policy strikes again.

Surprised they didn't charge the kid with rape.
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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm

The Republic of Llamas wrote:This is f*cking stupid. When I was a little kid, I pretended to be a knight and kissed girl friends on the hand often. You are indeed right; it's more or less indicative of the crappiness of the American school system, which is the world's most inefficient and sucks ATM.


Did you get consent to kiss their hands? How did they feel about it?

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Postby Resawa » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:04 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
The Republic of Llamas wrote:This is f*cking stupid. When I was a little kid, I pretended to be a knight and kissed girl friends on the hand often. You are indeed right; it's more or less indicative of the crappiness of the American school system, which is the world's most inefficient and sucks ATM.


Did you get consent to kiss their hands? How did they feel about it?

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Postby Inky Noodles » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:04 pm

Unless the boy was a young drug king-pin, or was the head of a human sex tracking operation, I see no reason to suspend him.
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Postby The Carlisle » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:09 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:Unless the boy was a young drug king-pin, or was the head of a human sex tracking operation, I see no reason to suspend him.

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Postby Tuva SSR » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:10 pm

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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:11 pm

According to a USA Today article:

District superintendent Robin Gooldy told The Associated Press on Tuesday the boy was suspended because of a policy against unwanted touching.

"The focus needs to be on his behavior. We usually try to get the student to stop, but if it continues, we need to take action and it sometimes rises to the level of suspension," he said.


I figured this would be an interesting tidbit.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:11 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:Unless the boy was a young drug king-pin, or was the head of a human sex tracking operation, I see no reason to suspend him.

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Postby Tekania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:12 pm

As I'm only seeing the mother's claims here and what the schools acts were, I'll have to reserve judgement.

But on face value I would say a case of sexual harassment should necessitate that the behavior be harassing to the victim. As neither the girl or her parents seem to have said anything in the context of the article, I'm not about to assume whether it was interpreted that way or not. Parents are not reliable sources when it comes to a child's school related behavior.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:14 pm

Tekania wrote:As I'm only seeing the mother's claims here and what the schools acts were, I'll have to reserve judgement.

But on face value I would say a case of sexual harassment should necessitate that the behavior be harassing to the victim. As neither the girl or her parents seem to have said anything in the context of the article, I'm not about to assume whether it was interpreted that way or not. Parents are not reliable sources when it comes to a child's school related behavior.


Would you take the school's word that a kid who is way, way below puberty could somehow sexually harass a classmate? Like I said, this smacks of Zero Intelligence Policy.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:15 pm

Skeckoa wrote:Have millions of schools and one (beyond) questionable decision is bound to happen every now-and-then... That's just how it goes. So OP, I don't think that this is a testament to how crappy schools are, but just how crappy a decision was made by a school director. Unless this is consistently happening, be certain this is a one-time unfortunate event.


The problem is that this isn't a one time event. It seems decisions that people deem so objectionable are made quite more than you think by schools and, hell, people in general.

For example:

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:15 pm

A student with a history of disciplinary problems gets one more and is suspended. Clearly this is a travesty and all US schools should be torn down at once and the rubble burned.
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Postby Mizrah » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:17 pm

It is very good that this happened.

Sexual assault is greatly under-reported and young men develop these habits early on in life. This was a future sexual assaulter/rapist, and it was taken care of immediately.
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