Does the (Christian) God Exist?

[Orham]

It brings me personal comfort to assume God, but I cannot at all substantiate the claim that God exists.

[The Shia Califate]

This is the most closed-minded, ignorant, and altogether poorly made post I have ever read. Let me rebute.

First of all, you are not an atheist because you do not believe in the Christian God. That much is clear.

1. He did a whole lot for mankind. Actually, he created mankind. And the universe. And you know, everything. Nobody is testing you, he's just asking that you love and respect him as a father and obey some simple laws. Like you know, not killing people and not being a general idiot. You know, simple stuff.

2. Theologians have decided long ago that if don't have a chance to be saved you will be forgiven. Next.

3. "Harsh punishments for minor crimes"... It wasn't a simple theft, they unleashed evil upon the world forever. They turned people from a blissful state of frolicking and happiness to sin and evil. Rather than revert them back, he decided to punish them forever by kicking them out of the garden.

4. Well, go ahead. Debunk them.

1. If were not being tested then how do you justify the fact that he lets tons of crap go on in the world, and since he's all powerful and all knowing it should be effortless for him to fix many of these problems like maybe not giving so many christian people disabilities. Also just because he apparently created us doesn't mean he's very loving, for example an abusive father may have created his kids but that doesn't make him a loving father.

2. Then it seems believing in god wasn't necessary.

3. How is intelligence a bad thing, just because we question our position as organic robots. By the way not only did he punish them but the entire human species when we have done nothing, for you cannot blame someone for the actions of their ancestors.

4. Considering I did that means you have no evidence to prove that god exists now.

Oh yeah and if I wasn't clear enough I don't believe in any god so I'm an atheist, now lets stop talking about what I am and continue the more pressing debate.

1. It doesn't matter how disabled you are -- or at least it shouldn't -- we are all equal in front of God.

2. I said people who didn't have a chance. You had a chance, but you chose not to embrace forgiveness. Also, "well if I'm not going to get punished for not doing it I won't" is an awful way to live.

3. It wasn't intelligence, they gave in to temptation and it came back and bit them in the butt.

4. You didn't. So I must be right?

[Libertechie]

There is only one God, but only one proper way to worship Him, the biblical one

Indeed.

Let us observe the feast of unleavened bread and sacrifice a bull at the temple.

Actually tbh there are quite a few ways, they just all fall under the same fundamental rules, ten commandments,

[Frisivisia]

Nope.

Hmm, that was easy.

[Menassa]

There is only one God, but only one proper way to worship Him, the biblical one

Indeed.

Let us observe the feast of unleavened bread and sacrifice a bull at the temple.

I wish we could do the latter, alas.

[The Shia Califate]

Nope.

Hmm, that was easy.

Thank you for just saying that and not attempting to climb the slippery slope.

[The Nuclear Fist]

The Christian god = the muslim god = the jewish god = pretty much all gods.

Hint: There is only one God.

There is only one God, but only one proper way to worship Him, the biblical one

What makes your particular desert cult the right one?

[Frisivisia]

Nope.

Hmm, that was easy.

Thank you for just saying that and not attempting to climb the slippery slope.

I'm not sure just exactly what you're saying here.

[Libertechie]

There is only one God, but only one proper way to worship Him, the biblical one

What makes your particular desert cult the right one?

*evades insult* I don't know, I just believe it is, because that's what I have faith in. The morals don't invade other people's privacy either.

[Ceannairceach]

Odds are against it.

[Ceannairceach]

What makes your particular desert cult the right one?

*evades insult* I don't know, I just believe it is, because that's what I have faith in. The morals don't invade other people's privacy either.

I have faith in the idea that Lucifer, like Prometheus before him, liberated humanity from the tyranny of the gods that would punish him for this "crime." That does not make my story real.

[Empire of Narnia]

Yes. It should be obvious.

[Ceannairceach]

Yes. It should be obvious.

Someone with the name of "Narnia" enjoying the thought of a Christian god? I shouldn't be surprised.

Why, precisely, should it be obvious that the Christian god exists, and not, say, the Mayan ones?

[Empire of Narnia]

Yes. It should be obvious.

Someone with the name of "Narnia" enjoying the thought of a Christian god? I shouldn't be surprised.

Why, precisely, should it be obvious that the Christian god exists, and not, say, the Mayan ones?

Read the Bible. Your answer awaits you.

[Libertechie]

*evades insult* I don't know, I just believe it is, because that's what I have faith in. The morals don't invade other people's privacy either.

I have faith in the idea that Lucifer, like Prometheus before him, liberated humanity from the tyranny of the gods that would punish him for this "crime." That does not make my story real.

I have faith in a God, I know that. I believe it is most likely that God actually came to his own world in the flesh, and performed miracles, and redeemed the people who left him. Mohammed wasn't God, he was a prophet. Neither was Moses, nor Abraham, nor others. Jesus actually came as God in the flesh, and was betrayed by his government when trying to spread the message of righteousness. He is a God who came back to save a people He created out of His own will, His own love and grace, the same people that fell into sin, and betrayed the God whom created them. God had so much love for His people, that He sent Jesus to save them. This is the God that I have faith, what I believe is God, the most impressive of all Gods, and to me, the holiest God. No other God has come to Earth with such grace, for a people so fallen.

[Menassa]

*evades insult* I don't know, I just believe it is, because that's what I have faith in. The morals don't invade other people's privacy either.

I have faith in the idea that Lucifer, like Prometheus before him, liberated humanity from the tyranny of the gods that would punish him for this "crime." That does not make my story real.

Who?

[Estado Paulista]

Someone with the name of "Narnia" enjoying the thought of a Christian god? I shouldn't be surprised.

Why, precisely, should it be obvious that the Christian god exists, and not, say, the Mayan ones?

Read the Bible. Your answer awaits you.

"Why, precisely, do you think Nazism is good?"

"Read Mein Kampf. Your answer awaits you"

[Ceannairceach]

I have faith in the idea that Lucifer, like Prometheus before him, liberated humanity from the tyranny of the gods that would punish him for this "crime." That does not make my story real.

Who?

I do not claim biblical authority. That story is my own metaphor. I don't actually even believe any of it. No need to pull out your Torah against me, Menassa

[Menassa]

Who?

I do not claim biblical authority. That story is my own metaphor. I don't actually even believe any of it. No need to pull out your Torah against me, Menassa

I pull out my Torah against everyone, even Jews.

But I like your connection between the Christian Satan and Prometheus, it's one I've thought of myself.

[Ceannairceach]

Someone with the name of "Narnia" enjoying the thought of a Christian god? I shouldn't be surprised.

Why, precisely, should it be obvious that the Christian god exists, and not, say, the Mayan ones?

Read the Bible. Your answer awaits you.

Yes, because the contradictory piece of literature written nearly two thousand years ago, longer in the early books, by many different authors, some of them without experience with what they are even talking about (I'm looking at you, Paul!) is going to answer all of my questions.

Why don't you look at the Principia Discordia? That's a far better read.

[Menassa]

I have faith in the idea that Lucifer, like Prometheus before him, liberated humanity from the tyranny of the gods that would punish him for this "crime." That does not make my story real.

I have faith in a God, I know that. I believe it is most likely that God actually came to his own world in the flesh, and performed miracles, and redeemed the people who left him. Mohammed wasn't God, he was a prophet. Neither was Moses, nor Abraham, nor others. Jesus actually came as God in the flesh, and was betrayed by his government when trying to spread the message of righteousness. He is a God who came back to save a people He created out of His own will, His own love and grace, the same people that fell into sin, and betrayed the God whom created them. God had so much love for His people, that He sent Jesus to save them. This is the God that I have faith, what I believe is God, the most impressive of all Gods, and to me, the holiest God. No other God has come to Earth with such grace, for a people so fallen.

Ya ever wonder why it took God around 2000 years to come to earth since the fall of man?

[Ceannairceach]

I do not claim biblical authority. That story is my own metaphor. I don't actually even believe any of it. No need to pull out your Torah against me, Menassa

I pull out my Torah against everyone, even Jews.

But I like your connection between the Christian Satan and Prometheus, it's one I've thought of myself.

Indeed. I identify as a Luciferian and/or Promethean for that reason. I subscribe to the benevolent metaphors that are Lucifer and Prometheus, without actually believing in them as deities.

[Estado Paulista]

I have faith in a God, I know that. I believe it is most likely that God actually came to his own world in the flesh, and performed miracles, and redeemed the people who left him. Mohammed wasn't God, he was a prophet. Neither was Moses, nor Abraham, nor others. Jesus actually came as God in the flesh, and was betrayed by his government when trying to spread the message of righteousness. He is a God who came back to save a people He created out of His own will, His own love and grace, the same people that fell into sin, and betrayed the God whom created them. God had so much love for His people, that He sent Jesus to save them. This is the God that I have faith, what I believe is God, the most impressive of all Gods, and to me, the holiest God. No other God has come to Earth with such grace, for a people so fallen.

Ya ever wonder why it took God around 2000 years to come to earth since the fall of man?

They didn't have automobiles back then.

[Ceannairceach]

I have faith in the idea that Lucifer, like Prometheus before him, liberated humanity from the tyranny of the gods that would punish him for this "crime." That does not make my story real.

I have faith in a God, I know that. I believe it is most likely that God actually came to his own world in the flesh, and performed miracles, and redeemed the people who left him. Mohammed wasn't God, he was a prophet. Neither was Moses, nor Abraham, nor others. Jesus actually came as God in the flesh, and was betrayed by his government when trying to spread the message of righteousness. He is a God who came back to save a people He created out of His own will, His own love and grace, the same people that fell into sin, and betrayed the God whom created them. God had so much love for His people, that He sent Jesus to save them. This is the God that I have faith, what I believe is God, the most impressive of all Gods, and to me, the holiest God. No other God has come to Earth with such grace, for a people so fallen.

I'd suggest reading the Bible; Jesus wasn't betrayed by the government, he was betrayed by the people. The government of Rome was fully within its rights to do as it did, if we are to believe the Bible, and in one book Pontius Pilate even made damn sure that everyone knew that it was the people of Jerusalem, not he nor Rome, that would carry out Jesus's sentence.

I would also note that this is the god who cast us out of paradise for daring to seek out free will, and the god that flooded the world when he believed his creations to be flawed. This is also the god that destroyed two cities for the actions of a few. This is also the god that ordered the death of innocent children in Egypt, and the god that would go on to allow so many horrible acts to befall humanity, despite promising them salvation and safety. If this is the god that exists, I want nothing to do with it.

[Menassa]

Ya ever wonder why it took God around 2000 years to come to earth since the fall of man?

They didn't have automobiles back then.

And the foot traffic was abominable.