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by Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:19 pm
by North America Inc » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:20 pm
Condunum wrote:North America Inc wrote:Wait you are preaching that they are being Intolerant but at the same time you are saying they should not be allowed to use their freedom of association. That is a hyprocrite OP if I must say. How can you and how dare you preach tolerance, when you can not tolerate others. I totally support LGBT equality but what gives you the right to take away rights. It is people like you, who give people who are for social equality a bad name. All you are doing is helping their side.
The funny thing is, your post is just as bad as the OP. The OP thinks it's bad to let people voice your opinion. Bad OP.
Now, you say it's bad to not tolerate people who aren't tolerant? Fuck that noise, I'm going to not tolerate their disliking of my life for as long as they continue to have those views. I'll tolerate their way of life, but not their lack of acceptance. Tolerance isn't universal, muchacho.
by ALMF » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:27 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Rocopurr wrote:How you were raised isn't an excuse. There is no excuse or reason to see another human as inferior and denying their rights for being LGBT.
That's absolutely an excuse. It's a pretty fucking good excuse in fact, if you'd been born in the 50's and raised with those ideals would you feel the same way about social issues you feel now?
by Jormengand » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:28 pm
ALMF wrote:Des-Bal wrote:
That's absolutely an excuse. It's a pretty fucking good excuse in fact, if you'd been born in the 50's and raised with those ideals would you feel the same way about social issues you feel now?
This explains why such people are villains but doesn't make them any less villians.
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by Rocopurr » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:29 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Rocopurr wrote:How you were raised isn't an excuse. There is no excuse or reason to see another human as inferior and denying their rights for being LGBT.
That's absolutely an excuse. It's a pretty fucking good excuse in fact, if you'd been born in the 50's and raised with those ideals would you feel the same way about social issues you feel now?
by Geilinor » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:31 pm
Ragnarum wrote:The Tovian Way wrote:
No doubt, in that situation that would be only rational. But would the actions of that person in power be, in your view, legitimate? That is to say, do you believe it is always a legitimate exercise of political power to deny free speech protections to those who disagree with the views of those in power?
Pretty much, yes they would be legitimate, except I wouldn't agree with them, and If I came into power (which wont happen anyway) I would just stop them existing as well.
by Old Tyrannia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:46 pm
by Ermarian » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:55 pm
Ifreann wrote:Arcadonisia wrote:So, yet again the crazies are attempting to hold back the waves of progress being seen here in the U.S. and across the globe. I personally think that they shouldn't even be allowed to hold any meetings or share their ideas at all, as they threaten the civil rights of countless LBGT citizens and their allies.
Nothing says support for equal rights for all people like wanting to deny equal rights to some people.The real question here is how far will they go to push their radical agenda into the legal system,
As far as they can without shooting themselves in the foot. Mostly.and what can be done (legally) to stop them?
Wait for them to die.What are some of your thoughts on their plans and their attempt of a meeting?
I'd much prefer they carry on their anti-gay activities within the bounds of the law than the alternative.
by Condunum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:03 pm
North America Inc wrote:Condunum wrote:The funny thing is, your post is just as bad as the OP. The OP thinks it's bad to let people voice your opinion. Bad OP.
Now, you say it's bad to not tolerate people who aren't tolerant? Fuck that noise, I'm going to not tolerate their disliking of my life for as long as they continue to have those views. I'll tolerate their way of life, but not their lack of acceptance. Tolerance isn't universal, muchacho.
No I said I think that he is jut hurting our cause and he says that people who are against gay rights should be arrested. All I said was he is hurting our cause and he should not be like that because in the end it helps give the other side the moral standpoint. We should be the better men.
by Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:40 pm
by Condunum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:51 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Rocopurr wrote:How you were raised isn't an excuse. There is no excuse or reason to see another human as inferior and denying their rights for being LGBT.
That's absolutely an excuse. It's a pretty fucking good excuse in fact, if you'd been born in the 50's and raised with those ideals would you feel the same way about social issues you feel now?
by Confederate Belgium » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:00 pm
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:01 pm
Condunum wrote:Sure, it's an excuse. An excuse that's also a cop-out to having to question one's own beliefs. Basically, saying "that's how I was raised" is saying you have no interest in learning new things, which is why it's a shitty excuse.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Condunum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:02 pm
Confederate Belgium wrote:Finally, people are recognizing the threat homosexuality poses to humanity!
by Condunum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:03 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Condunum wrote:Sure, it's an excuse. An excuse that's also a cop-out to having to question one's own beliefs. Basically, saying "that's how I was raised" is saying you have no interest in learning new things, which is why it's a shitty excuse.
When you're talking about religion gut reactions and tradition there's really nothing to question, no logical line of evidence based inquiry leads to "gays are alright in my book" without believing something fundamentally different. It's not about failing to learn new things it's about failing to believe what you believe.
by Confederate Belgium » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:05 pm
Condunum wrote:Confederate Belgium wrote:Finally, people are recognizing the threat homosexuality poses to humanity!
You do know that Moderation considers puppet-trolling an offense, right? I mean, you already admitted this is a puppet nation, I just wanted to let you know that your main could get reprimanded for this.
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:06 pm
Condunum wrote:Religion doesn't get a special ticket. If someone can't justify why they believe that they believe, they can't justify it. "It's how I was raised" is not a justification, it is a cop-out.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Seperates » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:07 pm
by Condunum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:08 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Condunum wrote:Religion doesn't get a special ticket. If someone can't justify why they believe that they believe, they can't justify it. "It's how I was raised" is not a justification, it is a cop-out.
I feel like you're not reading because my response to that is just to repeat the post you quoted. There's nothing to justify.
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:09 pm
Seperates wrote:No... it's a republic for the most part. Only one part of the process is democratic and even that has another official vote within government. Popular vote counts for shit.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Seperates » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:10 pm
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:10 pm
Condunum wrote:How is there nothing to justify? I just said religion doesn't get a special ticket, thus there is something to justify. No one gets a cop-out to having to evaluate your beliefs. If you don't want to, fine, but you don't get to discuss them with the rest of us if you aren't willing to do so.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:11 pm
Confederate Belgium wrote:Finally, people are recognizing the threat homosexuality poses to humanity!
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:13 pm
Seperates wrote:Democratic. Not a 'democracy'.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
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