by Arcadonisia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:10 pm
by Uiiop » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:12 pm
Arcadonisia wrote:It has been reported that top anti-gay activists are attempted to hold a public meeting with U.S. Senators in the Dirksen Senate Office Building in D.C. today to discuss the only thing that they can obsess over, their extreme hate for marriage equality in America. The organization holding this event is known as the World Congress of Families, which is infamous for spreading intolerance and hate against the LGBT across the globe.
The leaders of this group have come to seek the aid of U.S. Senators to help repeal laws that legalize gay marriages and civil unions across the states. Further information details that members of this group are indeed responsible for spreading false and misleading propaganda that has lead to widespread accounts of LGBT Hate crimes in Africa and Eastern Europe. Not only do these anti-gay activists seek the repeal of equality, but also demand that the U.S. support and embrace laws similar to the infamous Russian laws that prohibit propaganda supporting "nontraditional sexual relations".
So, yet again the crazies are attempting to hold back the waves of progress being seen here in the U.S. and across the globe. I personally think that they shouldn't even be allowed to hold any meetings or share their ideas at all, as they threaten the civil rights of countless LBGT citizens and their allies. The real question here is how far will they go to push their radical agenda into the legal system, and what can be done (legally) to stop them? What are some of your thoughts on their plans and their attempt of a meeting?
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by The Tovian Way » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:16 pm
Arcadonisia wrote:It has been reported that top anti-gay activists are attempted to hold a public meeting with U.S. Senators in the Dirksen Senate Office Building in D.C. today to discuss the only thing that they can obsess over, their extreme hate for marriage equality in America. The organization holding this event is known as the World Congress of Families, which is infamous for spreading intolerance and hate against the LGBT across the globe.
The leaders of this group have come to seek the aid of U.S. Senators to help repeal laws that legalize gay marriages and civil unions across the states. Further information details that members of this group are indeed responsible for spreading false and misleading propaganda that has lead to widespread accounts of LGBT Hate crimes in Africa and Eastern Europe. Not only do these anti-gay activists seek the repeal of equality, but also demand that the U.S. support and embrace laws similar to the infamous Russian laws that prohibit propaganda supporting "nontraditional sexual relations".
So, yet again the crazies are attempting to hold back the waves of progress being seen here in the U.S. and across the globe. I personally think that they shouldn't even be allowed to hold any meetings or share their ideas at all, as they threaten the civil rights of countless LBGT citizens and their allies. The real question here is how far will they go to push their radical agenda into the legal system, and what can be done (legally) to stop them? What are some of your thoughts on their plans and their attempt of a meeting?
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by Ifreann » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:17 pm
Arcadonisia wrote:So, yet again the crazies are attempting to hold back the waves of progress being seen here in the U.S. and across the globe. I personally think that they shouldn't even be allowed to hold any meetings or share their ideas at all, as they threaten the civil rights of countless LBGT citizens and their allies.
The real question here is how far will they go to push their radical agenda into the legal system,
and what can be done (legally) to stop them?
What are some of your thoughts on their plans and their attempt of a meeting?
by Ragnarum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:18 pm
by Ifreann » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:20 pm
Ragnarum wrote:I'd just remove them.
by Thaipursia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:22 pm
by Ragnarum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:28 pm
by The Tovian Way » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:30 pm
by Ragnarum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:31 pm
by Totalise » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:32 pm
by The Tovian Way » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:32 pm
by Ragnarum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:32 pm
Totalise wrote:i have always wondered something........ why is it ok for people who like the LGBT to protest and try to further their agenda, while it is the worst possiable event for someone to oppose them and further theirs.
why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:35 pm
Totalise wrote:i have always wondered something........ why is it ok for people who like the LGBT to protest and try to further their agenda, while it is the worst possiable event for someone to oppose them and further theirs.
why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
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by Avenio » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:36 pm
Totalise wrote:why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
by Totalise » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:36 pm
Ragnarum wrote:Totalise wrote:i have always wondered something........ why is it ok for people who like the LGBT to protest and try to further their agenda, while it is the worst possiable event for someone to oppose them and further theirs.
why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
Because your opinion can change, but their sexuality cannot.
Rather simple.
by Blasveck » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:36 pm
Totalise wrote:i have always wondered something........ why is it ok for people who like the LGBT to protest and try to further their agenda, while it is the worst possiable event for someone to oppose them and further theirs.
why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
by Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:36 pm
Avenio wrote:Totalise wrote:why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
To quote Karl Popper;
"Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal."
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by The Treorai » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:37 pm
Arcadonisia wrote:I personally think that they shouldn't even be allowed to hold any meetings or share their ideas at all, as they threaten the civil rights of countless LBGT citizens and their allies.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.
Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.
Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.
by Ragnarum » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:37 pm
by The Tovian Way » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:37 pm
by Jormengand » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:38 pm
Totalise wrote:tis a choice is it not?
Jormengand wrote:It would be really meta if I sigged this.
by Totalise » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:39 pm
Blasveck wrote:Totalise wrote:i have always wondered something........ why is it ok for people who like the LGBT to protest and try to further their agenda, while it is the worst possiable event for someone to oppose them and further theirs.
why am i supposed to be tolorant of you but not you of me. hipocracy at its finest.
Because the people who oppose them are harming members of society for no logical reason.
Granted, they can spread hate all they want. They're in their full right to do so.
But they shouldn't act suprised when they get shit for it.
by Totalise » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:40 pm
Jormengand wrote:Totalise wrote:tis a choice is it not?
Sexuality? No. When did you choose to be straight? Could you (for experimental purposes, of course) choose to be gay?
No. No you couldn't.
That said, I'd let you have every right to say what you want. Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins, and all that.
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