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Luveria
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Postby Luveria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:15 pm

Seriong wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Democrats will say this is fair and that greedy stores must help out the poor. I am sure this will greatly improve Venezuela's economy and encourage more stores to set up their business in Venezuela. After all, business is supposed to be like a charity right? Everybody has the right to own a TV or refrigerator.

My friend, the democrats are capitalists.


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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:18 pm

Luveria wrote:
Seriong wrote:My friend, the democrats are capitalists.


"But Obama is a communist!"


Democrats are CommuLeninStalinMaoHoChiMinhPolPotists just like Hugo Chavez dontchaknow?
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Postby The Black Plains » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:21 pm

greed and death wrote:President Nicolás Maduro ordered the military to occupy Daka stores, equivalent of best buy ( well maybe closer to circuit city soon given the likely bankruptcy), to sell electronics at a "fair price" in order to combat economic warfare. What does fair mean ? I have no clue what fair means I suspect fair means going out of business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... s/3486581/

In other news there is a massive shortage of toilet paper in Venezuela.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10109


In my view I do not even think Venezuela can claim to be a socialist country anymore, instead Venezuela should call itself a really bad right winged satire of socialism.

So what says NSG ? has Venezuela gone too crazy or not ?

It's like Occupy Wall Street with guns.

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Postby Luveria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:22 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Luveria wrote:
"But Obama is a communist!"


Democrats are CommuLeninStalinMaoHoChiMinhPolPotists just like Hugo Chavez dontchaknow?


That bizarre alternate reality in which the Democratic Party is socialist. I assume Scandinavia is a bastion of right-wing politics in that inverted world.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:35 pm

The Black Plains wrote:
greed and death wrote:President Nicolás Maduro ordered the military to occupy Daka stores, equivalent of best buy ( well maybe closer to circuit city soon given the likely bankruptcy), to sell electronics at a "fair price" in order to combat economic warfare. What does fair mean ? I have no clue what fair means I suspect fair means going out of business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... s/3486581/

In other news there is a massive shortage of toilet paper in Venezuela.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10109


In my view I do not even think Venezuela can claim to be a socialist country anymore, instead Venezuela should call itself a really bad right winged satire of socialism.

So what says NSG ? has Venezuela gone too crazy or not ?

It's like Occupy Wall Street with guns.

Not really.
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Postby Mozzissey » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:38 pm

So, what prices are they setting things for?

Also, I feel bad about the toilet paper shortage D:
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Postby The Black Plains » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Black Plains wrote:It's like Occupy Wall Street with guns.

Not really.

Please, the idea of a "fair" price? That reeks of OWS.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:42 pm

The Black Plains wrote:
Liriena wrote:Not really.

Please, the idea of a "fair" price? That reeks of OWS.


Why not compare the Venezuelan government to ACORN? Same effect.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Tyrghyria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:42 pm

I cannot help but feel that Maduro is taking more extreme measures than his late predecessor. Are these desperate measures?
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Postby Mozzissey » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:46 pm

The Black Plains wrote:
Liriena wrote:Not really.

Please, the idea of a "fair" price? That reeks of OWS.

OWS doesn't own the idea of "fair prices" or "socialism" or "communism" or "resource based economy". Ideas are owned by no one.
That said, as long as the government officials are not harassing peoples involved, charging outrageous expensive prices, shooting civilians, destroying products or buildings, then I generally don't see anything wrong with it.
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Postby Rio Cana » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Mozzissey wrote:So, what prices are they setting things for?

Also, I feel bad about the toilet paper shortage D:


If there is a toilet paper shortage then chances are they might try, if not already, to smuggle toilet paper from across the border from Colombia.

Yes, they even sell "Familiar" Brand toilet paper here on our island. Imported from Colombia.

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Postby The Black Plains » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:53 pm

Mozzissey wrote:
The Black Plains wrote:Please, the idea of a "fair" price? That reeks of OWS.

OWS doesn't own the idea of "fair prices" or "socialism" or "communism" or "resource based economy". Ideas are owned by no one.
That said, as long as the government officials are not harassing peoples involved, charging outrageous expensive prices, shooting civilians, destroying products or buildings, then I generally don't see anything wrong with it.

First of all, I never said that they owned ideas. It still sounds like them. Second, your ideas are insane and stupid. You aren't insane or stupid. I'm sure you're just fine. Your ideas and ideals are insane and stupid. If you want people to allocate goods where they're needed, you have to allow them to charge the price where the supply and the demand curves meet or you're going to have shortages or surpluses. Even honkey-ass Keynesian economics purports that.
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Postby Seriong » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:57 pm

Luveria wrote:
Seriong wrote:My friend, the democrats are capitalists.


"But Obama is a communist!"

Silly Luvi, he's a socialist!
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The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

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Postby Vetalia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:00 pm

Rio Cana wrote:If there is a toilet paper shortage then chances are they might try, if not already, to smuggle toilet paper from across the border from Colombia.

Yes, they even sell "Familiar" Brand toilet paper here on our island. Imported from Colombia.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:16 pm

Seriong wrote:
Luveria wrote:
"But Obama is a communist!"

Silly Luvi, he's a socialist!


In the United States, "Socialist" always means "CommuLeninStalinMaoHoChiMinhPolPotist".
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:17 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Mozzissey wrote:So, what prices are they setting things for?

Also, I feel bad about the toilet paper shortage D:


If there is a toilet paper shortage then chances are they might try, if not already, to smuggle toilet paper from across the border from Colombia.

Yes, they even sell "Familiar" Brand toilet paper here on our island. Imported from Colombia.

Giant Photo
http://www.makrovirtual.com/media/catal ... 540_01.jpg


I can see the cartels switching to smuggling toilet paper for profit.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Nervium » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:20 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:
If there is a toilet paper shortage then chances are they might try, if not already, to smuggle toilet paper from across the border from Colombia.

Yes, they even sell "Familiar" Brand toilet paper here on our island. Imported from Colombia.

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http://www.makrovirtual.com/media/catal ... 540_01.jpg


I can see the cartels switching to smuggling toilet paper for profit.


This will eventually evolve in making toilet paper illegal, followed by propaganda explaining why toilet paper makes you a murdering psychopath, followed by a War on Toilet Paper, followed by a libertarian teenage movement that wants to legalise toilet paper.
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Postby Tyrghyria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:21 pm

Is Carmona planning a new revolution attempt, this time with an even 'shittier' plan than the last one?
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:24 pm

Nervium wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
I can see the cartels switching to smuggling toilet paper for profit.


This will eventually evolve in making toilet paper illegal, followed by propaganda explaining why toilet paper makes you a murdering psychopath, followed by a War on Toilet Paper, followed by a libertarian teenage movement that wants to legalise toilet paper.


Plus public service announcements telling kids that "Toilet Papers are Bad, Mmkay?" and investments in training toilet paper sniffing dogs.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:46 pm

Tyrghyria wrote:I cannot help but feel that Maduro is taking more extreme measures than his late predecessor. Are these desperate measures?


Considering how their inflation is high, I'd say so.

Rio Cana wrote:If there is a toilet paper shortage then chances are they might try, if not already, to smuggle toilet paper from across the border from Colombia.


I think I've read somewhere they are already doing it.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:47 pm

Tyrghyria wrote:Is Carmona planning a new revolution attempt, this time with an even 'shittier' plan than the last one?


I hope so.
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