Greek Leftist murdered by Golden Dawn Members

[DrakoBlaria]

Well would ya look at that... http://www.xryshaygh.com/index.php/enim ... j5JIIYW1EM

>links to GD website
>expects anyone to pay attention

Ιt ain't like this thread is about G.D or whatever...

And in the link they claim their voting ratings haven't fallen at all

[New England and The Maritimes]

Nazis should kind of be banned forever anywhere. This is just what they do and nobody should be thinking any differently.

[Marquette of Pacific]

*Sigh* oh Golden Dawn I have mixed feelings for you.

[Pacifornia]

Nazis should kind of be banned forever anywhere. This is just what they do and nobody should be thinking any differently.

They infight a lot (trust me, they accuse each other of not being racist enough or for having Jewish blood). They may seem dangerous from the get-go but I would leave them alone for now, they're basically destroying themselves. Popcorn?

[Ceannairceach]

*Sigh* oh Golden Dawn I have mixed feelings for you.

Those feelings being hatred, disgust and loathing, I hope.

[Genivaria]

*Sigh* oh Golden Dawn I have mixed feelings for you.

Those feelings being hatred, disgust and loathing, I hope.

Technically that is mixed.
Like a disgusting stew made from vile ingredients.

[The Global Syndicate]

I don't quite see how the actions of some members would reflect on the Golden Dawn organization as whole. They seem to have some decent ideas, if not exactly the best public image (but still apparently good enough to get 18 seats in the Greek parliament).

Suppose a bunch of overzealous Republicans murdered a Democrat over a political dispute. Would that make all Republicans degenerate scumbags who should be locked away?

[Ayreonia]

I don't quite see how the actions of some members would reflect on the Golden Dawn organization as whole. They seem to have some decent ideas, if not exactly the best public image (but still apparently good enough to get 18 seats in the Greek parliament).

Suppose a bunch of overzealous Republicans murdered a Democrat over a political dispute. Would that make all Republicans degenerate scumbags who should be locked away?

Problem is, this isn't the first time GD members do shit like this.

[The Global Syndicate]

I don't quite see how the actions of some members would reflect on the Golden Dawn organization as whole. They seem to have some decent ideas, if not exactly the best public image (but still apparently good enough to get 18 seats in the Greek parliament).

Suppose a bunch of overzealous Republicans murdered a Democrat over a political dispute. Would that make all Republicans degenerate scumbags who should be locked away?

Problem is, this isn't the first time GD members do shit like this.

I understand, but still, as long as the party itself does not openly condone violence, it can be dismissed as overzealous members acting on their own accord.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing is a smear campaign, the Golden Dawn simply being framed for the murder by powers that be, who fear what the resurgence of ethnic nationalist ideologies may bring them. Then again, Greeks seem to be hot-blooded enough to murder each other for less drastic differences than ideology...

[Camelza]

Problem is, this isn't the first time GD members do shit like this.

I understand, but still, as long as the party itself does not openly condone violence, it can be dismissed as overzealous members acting on their own accord.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing is a smear campaign, the Golden Dawn simply being framed for the murder by powers that be, who fear what the resurgence of ethnic nationalist ideologies may bring them. Then again, Greeks seem to be hot-blooded enough to murder each other for less drastic differences than ideology...

Don't generalise.

[Albicia]

Why are all of you criticising Golden Dawn for loving and trying to protect their country?

[Pacifornia]

Why are all of you criticising Golden Dawn for loving and trying to protect their country?

At the expense of violating the human rights of immigrants and assaulting and murdering their opponents? No thanks.

[The Global Syndicate]

I understand, but still, as long as the party itself does not openly condone violence, it can be dismissed as overzealous members acting on their own accord.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing is a smear campaign, the Golden Dawn simply being framed for the murder by powers that be, who fear what the resurgence of ethnic nationalist ideologies may bring them. Then again, Greeks seem to be hot-blooded enough to murder each other for less drastic differences than ideology...

Don't generalise.

There sure seems to be a lot of rioting and violence going on in Greece lately, and they seem to be up in arms whenever an unpopular policy is implemented, so I don't retract my statement.

Not that being hot-blooded is a bad thing. I wish my own people had the Greek temper...

[Wind in the Willows]

Nazis should kind of be banned forever anywhere. This is just what they do and nobody should be thinking any differently.

No they shouldn't, everyone has the right to their views.

[Camelza]

Don't generalise.

There sure seems to be a lot of rioting and violence going on in Greece lately, and they seem to be up in arms whenever an unpopular policy is implemented, so I don't retract my statement.

Not that being hot-blooded is a bad thing. I wish my own people had the Greek temper...

Bullshit, whenever an unpopular policy is voted by the parliament "we" (as in "we, the working class") swallow it like the willing little sluts of our bosses that we are.
What you hear on the news is exaggerated to destabilize the economy, living here I can verify that we only really "rioted" when a young boy was murdered in 2008. The rest were a series of mostly peacefull protests in line with the global occupy and indignant movements, nothing more-nothing less.

Hot-blooded my ass.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Nazis should kind of be banned forever anywhere. This is just what they do and nobody should be thinking any differently.

No they shouldn't, everyone has the right to their views.

No. Nazis do not have a right to be nazis. Nobody has a right to be a nazi.

[Forster Keys]

Don't generalise.

There sure seems to be a lot of rioting and violence going on in Greece lately, and they seem to be up in arms whenever an unpopular policy is implemented, so I don't retract my statement.

Not that being hot-blooded is a bad thing. I wish my own people had the Greek temper...

Oh those hot-blooded Mediterranean types! Always rioting when they country has over 27% unemployment, institutional corruption and is tearing down their standard of living, due to the gross mismanagement of a small elite.

[Forster Keys]

No they shouldn't, everyone has the right to their views.

No. Nazis do not have a right to be nazis. Nobody has a right to be a nazi.

A right to be? That depends where you live. Across the Western world, most people have the right to be Nazis.

[Quintium]

Why are all of you criticising Golden Dawn for loving and trying to protect their country?

At the expense of violating the human rights of immigrants and assaulting and murdering their opponents? No thanks.

Well, I can see why they don't like immigrants. Most of the immigrants they get are absolute scum. People who are bad for African and Middle Eastern standards. Conservative, angry young men, many illiterate, who destroy their identity papers on arrival so they can't be sent back to where they came from. People who, when told they can't stay, try to evade the authorities and make a living through petty crime.

And I've heard there's a lot of them - relatively speaking, perhaps more than in any other European country.
They arrive in boats, or they come through Turkey and hop across the border.

[Pacifornia]

At the expense of violating the human rights of immigrants and assaulting and murdering their opponents? No thanks.

Well, I can see why they don't like immigrants. Most of the immigrants they get are absolute scum. People who are bad for African and Middle Eastern standards. Conservative, angry young men, many illiterate, who destroy their identity papers on arrival so they can't be sent back to where they came from. People who, when told they can't stay, try to evade the authorities and make a living through petty crime.

And I've heard there's a lot of them - relatively speaking, perhaps more than in any other European country.
They arrive in boats, or they come through Turkey and hop across the border.

I would suggest reading this book, Enrique's Journey. A lot of Latin American immigrants deal with ms13 gang members and corrupt Mexican police just to have a chance to survive in a better country . The immigrants I know work hard and try their best to get their kids to assimilate if they themselves cannot. I'd be damned if I came thousands of miles from a broken down country only to see my kids goof off and ruin their lives.

[Quintium]

I would suggest reading this book, Enrique's Journey. A lot of Latin American immigrants deal with ms13 gang members and corrupt Mexican police just to have a chance to survive in a better country . The immigrants I know work hard and try their best to get their kids to assimilate if they themselves cannot. I'd be damned if I came thousands of miles from a broken down country only to see my kids goof off and ruin their lives.

The United States, Canada, New Zealand and Australia get a different type of immigrants. The immigrants we get have a sense that we owe them something, and that they certainly should not have to work for that. They feel surprised - genuinely surprised - when the government does not offer them a life of plenty for free. Take a look at Al Jazeera's series about African migrants in Europe for more about that.

[Czervenika]

This really shows why Neo-Nazis are nothing but thugs. I heard Greece was now considering banning that party, but I'm amazed it took a murder for those talks to finally even be considered.

[Genivaria]

I would suggest reading this book, Enrique's Journey. A lot of Latin American immigrants deal with ms13 gang members and corrupt Mexican police just to have a chance to survive in a better country . The immigrants I know work hard and try their best to get their kids to assimilate if they themselves cannot. I'd be damned if I came thousands of miles from a broken down country only to see my kids goof off and ruin their lives.

The United States, Canada, New Zealand and Australia get a different type of immigrants. The immigrants we get have a sense that we owe them something, and that they certainly should not have to work for that. They feel surprised - genuinely surprised - when the government does not offer them a life of plenty for free. Take a look at Al Jazeera's series about African migrants in Europe for more about that.

Please source this Tea Party bullshit.

[Genivaria]

At the expense of violating the human rights of immigrants and assaulting and murdering their opponents? No thanks.

Well, I can see why they don't like immigrants. Most of the immigrants they get are absolute scum. People who are bad for African and Middle Eastern standards. Conservative, angry young men, many illiterate, who destroy their identity papers on arrival so they can't be sent back to where they came from. People who, when told they can't stay, try to evade the authorities and make a living through petty crime.

And I've heard there's a lot of them - relatively speaking, perhaps more than in any other European country.
They arrive in boats, or they come through Turkey and hop across the border.

People who are bad for African and Middle Eastern standards.

Implying their standards in terms of character are inherently lower then yours.

[Pacifornia]

I would suggest reading this book, Enrique's Journey. A lot of Latin American immigrants deal with ms13 gang members and corrupt Mexican police just to have a chance to survive in a better country . The immigrants I know work hard and try their best to get their kids to assimilate if they themselves cannot. I'd be damned if I came thousands of miles from a broken down country only to see my kids goof off and ruin their lives.

The United States, Canada, New Zealand and Australia get a different type of immigrants. The immigrants we get have a sense that we owe them something, and that they certainly should not have to work for that. They feel surprised - genuinely surprised - when the government does not offer them a life of plenty for free. Take a look at Al Jazeera's series about African migrants in Europe for more about that.

But does that justify beating them up? If you don't want them, deport them back with as little violence as possible.