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Postby Ilovebenderdotcomland » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:01 pm

Eigo kudasai/por favor :P

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Benkyou desu

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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:24 pm

Ilovebenderdotcomland wrote:Eigo kudasai/por favor :P

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Benkyou desu

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Just watch it, hehe.
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Postby Ilovebenderdotcomland » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:37 pm

Fine...






I tuned out at lickerty lickerty likcerty... They should really put a warning on these, but hey!
Now I know one creepy innuendo in Japanese/Nihongo...

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Ilovebenderdotcomland wrote:Fine...






I tuned out at lickerty lickerty likcerty... They should really put a warning on these, but hey!
Now I know one creepy innuendo in Japanese/Nihongo...

:(

There's more to it than that. I actually don't think it's meant to be sexual or anything, haha. The rest isn't like that.
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Postby Ilovebenderdotcomland » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:42 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Ilovebenderdotcomland wrote:Fine...






I tuned out at lickerty lickerty likcerty... They should really put a warning on these, but hey!
Now I know one creepy innuendo in Japanese/Nihongo...

:(

There's more to it than that. I actually don't think it's meant to be sexual or anything, haha. The rest isn't like that.

Maybe next time. 8)

*Smiles and nods, smiles and nods.

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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:57 pm

Ilovebenderdotcomland wrote:
Arumdaum wrote: :(

There's more to it than that. I actually don't think it's meant to be sexual or anything, haha. The rest isn't like that.

Maybe next time. 8)

*Smiles and nods, smiles and nods.

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Postby Dakini » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:08 pm

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Dakini wrote:Well... so my other half lives there already and I've been there twice without knowing anything (I picked up some kanji and a few phrases "sumimasen, ososumi ichi sake arimasen" along the way). I haven't had a problem getting around Tokyo without being able to read the katakana, hiragana and kanji (the romanji is large enough in train stations that I can read it and the trains have someone reciting the station names in both Japanese and English).

But yeah, I figure I'll start with katakana because that seems easier (and I'm more likely to be able to recognize the word since it's used for loanwords) and then do hiragana. I'm not going to try to learn them both at the same time because then I'll just get them all confused.

I'd recommend learning hiragana first because it's far more useful.

meh.

I've learned katakana in a few hours over two days. I think I can manage to do both.

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Postby Ilovebenderdotcomland » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:10 pm

... Hai rokku ne 8)
... Yeah, rock, you know, right? of course you do! 8)

Sono suzumebachi wa watashi o to-cho- gomen baai
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:19 pm

私のホバークラフトは鰻いっぱいありますでもおばあさんのキャメルはミラジで落ちています。

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Postby Gold state » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:22 pm

Arumdaum wrote:We haven't had such a thread since Nana's "Nihongo, daremo ka?" in 2009 was it? Or was it 2010? Either, it's been a pretty long while, and I think there's a considerable amount of people who have an interest in Japan on this forum, me included, haha. Also, there's a few people on the forum who seem to speak it pretty fluently.

Feel free to vent about Abe or talk about how great horse sashimi is.

I remember I was in 7th grade back then, and I'd been trying to learn Japanese (by myself ;_;), and had successfully taught myself to read kana in a few days, as well as some basic vocabulary, kanji, and grammar. My interest in Japan and learning the language in particular has arisen again, though, so I'm hoping that this thread will help.

Either way, I think my rather limited knowledge of Korean has helped a pretty large amount in trying to learn Japanese, due to similar grammar structures as well as due to the heavy amount of loanwords present in both Japan and SK from places such as China and the West.

The Japanese language is part of the Japonic language family, which is part of the controversial Altaic language family, which includes the Turkic, Mongolian, Tungusic, and Koreanic languages. The word order is SOV, and it's not a tonal language, for those of whom are interested.

But either way, what do you think of Japan? Have you tried learning Japanese? Have you been to Japan before?

Also sorry, but the computer I'm currently on can't type in Japanese.

Konnichiwa, minasan. Arumu desu. Watashiwa Amerika-jin desu, shikashi watashino ryoushin wa Kankoku-jin desu. Juu-nensei gakusei desu. 2009nen ni watashi wa Nihongo wo sukoshi benkyou shimashita. Anatatachiwa Nihon ga suki desu ka?

(please forgive my crappy Japanese skills) Kajuaru wa... daijoubu desu ka?


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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:37 pm

Gold state wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:We haven't had such a thread since Nana's "Nihongo, daremo ka?" in 2009 was it? Or was it 2010? Either, it's been a pretty long while, and I think there's a considerable amount of people who have an interest in Japan on this forum, me included, haha. Also, there's a few people on the forum who seem to speak it pretty fluently.

Feel free to vent about Abe or talk about how great horse sashimi is.

I remember I was in 7th grade back then, and I'd been trying to learn Japanese (by myself ;_;), and had successfully taught myself to read kana in a few days, as well as some basic vocabulary, kanji, and grammar. My interest in Japan and learning the language in particular has arisen again, though, so I'm hoping that this thread will help.

Either way, I think my rather limited knowledge of Korean has helped a pretty large amount in trying to learn Japanese, due to similar grammar structures as well as due to the heavy amount of loanwords present in both Japan and SK from places such as China and the West.

The Japanese language is part of the Japonic language family, which is part of the controversial Altaic language family, which includes the Turkic, Mongolian, Tungusic, and Koreanic languages. The word order is SOV, and it's not a tonal language, for those of whom are interested.

But either way, what do you think of Japan? Have you tried learning Japanese? Have you been to Japan before?

Also sorry, but the computer I'm currently on can't type in Japanese.

Konnichiwa, minasan. Arumu desu. Watashiwa Amerika-jin desu, shikashi watashino ryoushin wa Kankoku-jin desu. Juu-nensei gakusei desu. 2009nen ni watashi wa Nihongo wo sukoshi benkyou shimashita. Anatatachiwa Nihon ga suki desu ka?

(please forgive my crappy Japanese skills) Kajuaru wa... daijoubu desu ka?


An American discussing 2009 and other things.

:lol:

Good day, everyone. (It) is Arum. I'm American, but my parents are Korean. (I) am a tenth-grader. In 2009 I studied a little Japanese. Do you (plural) like Japan?
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:40 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:私のホバークラフトは鰻いっぱいありますでもおばあさんのキャメルはミラジで落ちています。

吾輩は猫である!!!


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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I'd recommend learning hiragana first because it's far more useful.

meh.

I've learned katakana in a few hours over two days. I think I can manage to do both.


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Postby Gold state » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:05 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Gold state wrote:
An American discussing 2009 and other things.

:lol:

Good day, everyone. (It) is Arum. I'm American, but my parents are Korean. (I) am a tenth-grader. In 2009 I studied a little Japanese. Do you (plural) like Japan?



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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:52 pm

Dakini wrote:Wee... memorizing katakana!

If anyone else is working on this (or hiragana), I found a handy site where you can test your recognition. Just go through and tick which rows you want to be tested on (and I think by default the first row of both katakana and hiragana are ticked) and click the tab that says practice to test how much you remember. :)

...I figure I'd start with katakana then move to hiragana so at least I can read stuff when I go. I'll probably make some flash cards for myself as well (with stroke order and everything) so I can test on the go.


LOL - I read that as "weaponizing katakana" at first...
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Postby Rei Goku » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:13 pm

皆さん、日本語のかなを書けてください。
毎日練習が良くです。
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:22 pm

Konnichiwa, minna :)

I'm going to take Japanese classes, which will start next Saturday. It'll be every Saturday and it's for a year. I hope I could learn even basic Japanese from that class.

I really like Japan and its culture. First because of anime, but as time progresses I began to watch more Japanese shows (specifically comedy shows), like Gaki no Tsukai ya Arahende! and Lincoln (big Downtown fan here). So yeah, I got intrigued by Japanese and became more and more determined to study it, until I finally decided to take it up (it's also 1 HS Credit so its a win win). I have a problem memorizing kanji and kana (I know hiragana vowels though). Hopefully I could memorize it, but I still wonder how I could memorize 2,000+ characters. From there, I'd like to start learning Kansai-ben too (out of curiosity).

I plan to visit Japan too, and even stay there for long period of time.

Just sharing my thoughts, sorry for a fairly long post :p
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I learned some Japanese in high school, and visited family on my dad's side in Japan in 2008. Since then, I forgot most of what I knew. I still remember quite a bit of Katakana and Hiragana, and small amounts of Kanji. Recently my interest in the language has been rebooted by a certain racing series, some subtitled anime I watched with some friends I made on IRC, and a certain bullet-heavy shooting game series and its tonnes of music arranges and fan art.

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Basashi is similar to beef, with a bit of gaminess and more sweet, a bit of a cross between beef and venison.
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Niigata is definitely the Yukiguni, but the coastal plains aren't too bad. You have to get up into the mountains to find the houses with 1st and 2nd floor doors (that's where they measure snowin metres rather than centimeters.

The name rings a bell, but not sure.

Tsutenkaku tower, Emperor Nintoku's tomb (largest in the world - I lived very close), Dotonbori bridge, and the Universal Studios theme park are all big. Tobita-shinchi is an interesting one -old school red light district, one of the only ones left in the country. The Kishiwada Danjiri Matsuri is soon and a blast.

There are some cool museums - the Instant Ramen museum and History museum are especially recommend. The aquarium is really good but the zoo not so much (Japanese zoos in general suck). My favorite thing about going to aquariums in Japan is how often you'll hear "Oishi-so!"

But food is the big attraction. Sadly, Kuidaore has closed. Yakiniku and horumon yaki are tasty, but I avoid the Tsuruhashi Korean town shops - overpriced. (Like any good Osakan, kechi. ;)) My two favorite shops were in my little neighborhood in Sakai. The best okonomiyaki used to be a little shop at Mikunigaoka station, but it's long gone. The Tennoji and Abenobashi areas have some good ones. And, yes, Osaka style. The best ramen in Osaka is at a shop near Sakai Higashi station, where they have a miso tonkotsu that's almost as good as you'll find in Kyushu. The second best ramen in the world is at a little shop off a back alley in Niigata. It's run by a guy from Fukuoka, and is very literally a hole in the wall. The very best is at a shop in Nagasaki where they use wild boar heads for the soup.I could go on, but I'm getting hungry for food I can't get here in Iowa...

The climate is pretty similar to Texas, especially in the South. The North is more like the Northern west coast of the US.

Ooh, yeah, that's what most people appear to say about horse meat, haha.

Is the Yukiguni considered a bad place? I've always liked the idea of lots of snow, but that just might be me coming from a place that hasn't snowed since 1962. :p

Second floor doors? Like, there's doors connecting the second floor to the outside? :shock: And recording snow in meters? That's crazy, haha.

Ah, apparently he's (was, anyway >.<) a kumicho of a yakuza group which operates in the Kansai region and apparently we're related but yeah >____>
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Ah, that all sounds interesting. I never knew there were Universal Studios Theme Parks outside of the one I'd always go to in Los Angeles, haha. What's are Kishiwada Danjiri Matsuri and Kuidaore though?

Ooh, seems interesting. :3 What kind of stuff is there at the history museum? Oishi-sou at an aquarium, though, pahaha, that seems hilarious. :lol:

Oh man, all of that's making me really hungry too. Most of the Japanese restaurants I've encountered in both the US and Korea are just alright, but then again all they usually sell is just plain tonkatsu (with tonkatsu sauce or kare sauce, and the salad with the pink sauce), kare raisu, and udon. Miso tonkatsu seems really good though, grr. What kind of ramen is the best? There's a restaurant near my school dedicated to Japanese ramen, but I've only been to it once. I remember I had some kind of ramen in Little Tokyo, I don't remember what, but it was really good... definitely beat the cup ramens I'm more used to. :lol:


Yep. 1st floor doors are for summer and 2nd floor for winter.

Uranihon's not bad, just considered to be the sticks. The old Beverly Hillbillies TV show used Niigata dialect for the Clampets....

Kishiwada is a town in southern Osaka. Danjiri are wheeled mikoshi, basically (the "floats" carried through the streets for matsuri). The danjiri matsuri in Kishiwada is one of the three big matsuri in Kansai. Imagine 3-400 really competitive young guys pulling a two-story house on wheels through the narrow streets of a typical Japanese suburb at top speed, taking hair pin corners at full speed. Now put a couple of guys posing and even dancing on the roof. To top it off, everyone's been drinking all day. If someone doesn't get killed, it's not a success...

Kuidaore was a very famous restaurant in Minami. The name comes from a saying about Osaka, Kyoto, and Kobe. Osaka no kuidaore, Kyoto no kidaore, Kobe no kutsudaore. "Fall down for" is a common translation. Kill yourself/go bankrupt for. Osaka people fall down for food, Kyoto people for clothes, and Kobe people for shoes.

USJ is fun.

Miso tonkotsu is the best.
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Note: tonkotsu is pork broth. Tonkatsu is pork cutlets. Both are good. I'll give (grudgingly) Nagoya props for the better tonkatsu. (That's where miso tonkatsu is from.)

Tonkotsu is the Kyushu style ramen.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:42 am

And in a similar vein, I'll remind NERV to please not vote chestnuts and pork (only works bilingually in the middle. ..)
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:44 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Note: tonkotsu is pork broth. Tonkatsu is pork cutlets. Both are good. I'll give (grudgingly) Nagoya props for the better tonkatsu. (That's where miso tonkatsu is from.)

Tonkotsu is the Kyushu style ramen.

Ah, oops. :oops:
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Postby Agritum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:55 am

Hodori wrote:I learned some Japanese in high school, and visited family on my dad's side in Japan in 2008. Since then, I forgot most of what I knew. I still remember quite a bit of Katakana and Hiragana, and small amounts of Kanji. Recently my interest in the language has been rebooted by a certain racing series, some subtitled anime I watched with some friends I made on IRC, and a certain bullet-heavy shooting game series and its tonnes of music arranges and fan art.

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Oh God, they're beautiful. They're even named "EVA Test Type 01". I also love how the headlights resemble Yui-sama's eyes :blush:
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:02 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Note: tonkotsu is pork broth. Tonkatsu is pork cutlets. Both are good. I'll give (grudgingly) Nagoya props for the better tonkatsu. (That's where miso tonkatsu is from.)

Tonkotsu is the Kyushu style ramen.

Ah, oops. :oops:


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Postby NERVUN » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:47 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Ah, oops. :oops:


There's lots worse things to mix up. I once insisted that I was a carrot. And my school friends in Nagasaki never let me live down the yakigyunyu party. But the best was adding -ko to niece when asking if a cute young lady had a picture of her niece. Good thing she had a sense of humor!

I got one up on you Dai, though it now is something of a trademark. 9 years back when I came my BoE decided to have a welcome party. It being summer, of course it was yaki-nikku. So the kyouikkucho asks me if I happened to like yaki-nikku, to which I replied, はい、焼猫大好き!

Thankfully, yaki-neko is a great crowd pleaser with Japanese kids when used as an example for just about everything in terms of English sentences.
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NERVUN wrote:It'll almost never be brought up though.

Permanent record?

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