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Postby Dakini » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:34 pm

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:Japan is cool and would be a nice place to visit. But Japanese do that weird things that they make, like squid ink cream, kelp ice cream,

I'd totally eat kelp ice cream, but I didn't see any when I was there.

there glass bottles with a marble in them.

That's just a different way of sealing a pop bottle.

They recycle a lot of things,

No, they really don't. They burn a lot of trash, but where I live in Ontario I recycle more things than in Japan. Plus there's a lot more packaging material in Japan so there's more to throw out. For example, if I buy some crackers here, there will be a box with a bag of crackers. In Japan, you might buy a bag of crackers and each cracker will be individually wrapped in its own bag.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:35 pm

Do you guys think Tokyo will hold the 2020 Olympics?

Do you want it to get it?

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Postby Norstal » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:30 pm

Dakini wrote:No, they really don't. They burn a lot of trash, but where I live in Ontario I recycle more things than in Japan. Plus there's a lot more packaging material in Japan so there's more to throw out. For example, if I buy some crackers here, there will be a box with a bag of crackers. In Japan, you might buy a bag of crackers and each cracker will be individually wrapped in its own bag.

Don't think that's just Japan. I had Chinese rice crackers that's like that too. Because we're weird like that.

Although I suspect it's so that you don't have to wash your hands when you eat or something like that.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:32 pm

Dakini wrote:In Japan, you might buy a bag of crackers and each cracker will be individually wrapped in its own bag.

It's the same in Korea, haha. But yeah, they could probably use less plastic and stuff. :<
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Postby Sabara » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:37 pm

I''m hoping my Mandarin will help me learn Japanese at some point. :s
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:38 pm

Sabara wrote:I''m hoping my Mandarin will help me learn Japanese at some point. :s

Hanzi! Loanwords!
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Postby Sabara » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:39 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Sabara wrote:I''m hoping my Mandarin will help me learn Japanese at some point. :s

Hanzi! Loanwords!

Exactly :D

Mandarin is pretty difficult though.. :(
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:13 pm

I feel so ignorant...
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
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Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:13 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:I feel so ignorant...

Soushite? D:
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:30 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:I feel so ignorant...

Soushite? D:


And i need to increase my knowledge of languages, though it will take time...

EDIT: how do you even learn japanese?
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
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Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:31 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
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2,136 these days. and an extra 861 for names.

Wait, really? :|


yep

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For those who don't know, they are a comedy duo in Japan. Members are Hamada and Matsumoto. They host Lincoln and Downtown no Gaki no Tsukai ya Arahende. Maybe some of you have seen their batsu games before.


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pie hell :-(

Sahrani DR wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Soushite? D:


And i need to increase my knowledge of languages, though it will take time...

EDIT: how do you even learn japanese?


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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:32 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Soushite? D:


And i need to increase my knowledge of languages, though it will take time...

Once you get into it, it'll be pretty easy.

Like, just 15 minutes a day is a lot. If you keep that up for a year, that's 91.25 hours of having studied a language, bwehehe.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:33 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Wait, really? :|


yep

Goddamn, I feel out of date D:
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:37 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:
And i need to increase my knowledge of languages, though it will take time...

EDIT: how do you even learn japanese?


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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
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Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:41 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:
And i need to increase my knowledge of languages, though it will take time...

Once you get into it, it'll be pretty easy.

Like, just 15 minutes a day is a lot. If you keep that up for a year, that's 91.25 hours of having studied a language, bwehehe.


I know, but when learning japanese you really are starting from 0, from absolutely nothing.
It's also pretty hard even trying to grasp teh concept of 2 different alphabets....
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:44 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:EDIT: how do you even learn japanese?

At first, try learning kana. Hiragana's more important and you'll use that a lot more often than katakana, so learn that first. Try buying things that'll help you learn Japanese, since a lot of the time they do help, and if you don't use them, you'll feel bad about wasting money, and so do them.

Try looking for websites which help teach Japanese, and try to get the grammar down, since it's really different from languages such as English. Verbs generally come at the end of the sentence.

For verbs, begin with desu, which basically means is/am/are, as well as its other forms. Deshita is the past tense of that.

Wa is the topic marker, but you can just assume that it's a subject marker while you're learning.

Like for example:

Watashi wa Arumudaumu desu.

I (topic marker) Arumdaum am.

Watashi, which means I, is the subject, wa comes after the topic, Arumdaum is the object, and desu is the verb.

If you can, try buying baby's books in Japanese.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:44 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Once you get into it, it'll be pretty easy.

Like, just 15 minutes a day is a lot. If you keep that up for a year, that's 91.25 hours of having studied a language, bwehehe.


I know, but when learning japanese you really are starting from 0, from absolutely nothing.
It's also pretty hard even trying to grasp teh concept of 2 different alphabets....

Nah, learning a new alphabet is actually one of the easiest parts, hehe. x3

It takes only a few days, really. If you're interested in things like anime or Japanese dramas/movies, try watching those.
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:55 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:EDIT: how do you even learn japanese?

At first, try learning kana. Hiragana's more important and you'll use that a lot more often than katakana, so learn that first. Try buying things that'll help you learn Japanese, since a lot of the time they do help, and if you don't use them, you'll feel bad about wasting money, and so do them.

Try looking for websites which help teach Japanese, and try to get the grammar down, since it's really different from languages such as English. Verbs generally come at the end of the sentence.

For verbs, begin with desu, which basically means is/am/are, as well as its other forms. Deshita is the past tense of that.

Wa is the topic marker, but you can just assume that it's a subject marker while you're learning.

Like for example:

Watashi wa Arumudaumu desu.

I (topic marker) Arumdaum am.

Watashi, which means I, is the subject, wa comes after the topic, Arumdaum is the object, and desu is the verb.

If you can, try buying baby's books in Japanese.


Thanks for the tips. I will employ the next 6 months trying to learn this information you just gave me (lolz).


Arumdaum wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:
I know, but when learning japanese you really are starting from 0, from absolutely nothing.
It's also pretty hard even trying to grasp teh concept of 2 different alphabets....

Nah, learning a new alphabet is actually one of the easiest parts, hehe. x3

It takes only a few days, really. If you're interested in things like anime or Japanese dramas/movies, try watching those.


It will make learning russian like a walk in the park...

I seldom watch animes. Even then, i'm mostly unable to grasp anything that is said.
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
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Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

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Postby Apto » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:56 pm

Ah Japan, the land I dreamed about taking revenge on for their crimes during WWII against my countrymen. Funny thing is, now that I know more about the 2nd World War (war crimes that weren't told to us at school for being too graphic), the more I forgot about the grudge, besides it was just a silly grudge I had when I was a kid (Grrr, they invaded us, grrr basically was my reason back then). The world has moved on after all. No need to fight former enemies.

Anyways, Japanese culture is pretty awesome, the Katana fan boys killed my love for their swords though. I've always found it pretty awesome how the Japanese beat the Russians and shocked the western world. Blitzkrieg via bicycle was both funny and creative.

I don't plan on learning the language since I already know English, I guess that should be enough to keep me alive, unless my English is actually horrible.
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:57 pm

Also, the system of abbreviations really overloads my poor brain. They seem to have no logic. Although i am sure they have one.
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:58 pm

Apto wrote:Ah Japan, the land I dreamed about taking revenge on for their crimes during WWII against my countrymen. Funny thing is, now that I know more about the 2nd World War (war crimes that weren't told to us at school for being too graphic), the more I forgot about the grudge, besides it was just a silly grudge I had when I was a kid (Grrr, they invaded us, grrr basically was my reason back then). The world has moved on after all. No need to fight former enemies.

Anyways, Japanese culture is pretty awesome, the Katana fan boys killed my love for their swords though. I've always found it pretty awesome how the Japanese beat the Russians and shocked the western world. Blitzkrieg via bicycle was both funny and creative.

I don't plan on learning the language since I already know English, I guess that should be enough to keep me alive, unless my English is actually horrible.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:59 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:Also, the system of abbreviations really overloads my poor brain. They seem to have no logic. Although i am sure they have one.

In Japanese? :p
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:00 pm

Apto wrote:Ah Japan, the land I dreamed about taking revenge on for their crimes during WWII against my countrymen. Funny thing is, now that I know more about the 2nd World War (war crimes that weren't told to us at school for being too graphic), the more I forgot about the grudge, besides it was just a silly grudge I had when I was a kid (Grrr, they invaded us, grrr basically was my reason back then). The world has moved on after all. No need to fight former enemies.

Anyways, Japanese culture is pretty awesome, the Katana fan boys killed my love for their swords though. I've always found it pretty awesome how the Japanese beat the Russians and shocked the western world. Blitzkrieg via bicycle was both funny and creative.

I don't plan on learning the language since I already know English, I guess that should be enough to keep me alive, unless my English is actually horrible.


This is not the right approach to learning a language.


Arumdaum wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:Also, the system of abbreviations really overloads my poor brain. They seem to have no logic. Although i am sure they have one.

In Japanese? :p


yup...
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:01 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Once you get into it, it'll be pretty easy.

Like, just 15 minutes a day is a lot. If you keep that up for a year, that's 91.25 hours of having studied a language, bwehehe.


I know, but when learning japanese you really are starting from 0, from absolutely nothing.
It's also pretty hard even trying to grasp teh concept of 2 different alphabets....

What I recommend if you want to learn Japanese is you take 2 semesters in Chinese first. It should help you grasp the other alphabet and help with the double meanings.
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